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Barry Bluejeans posted:I'm aware of that, but again, those cuts only affected streaming content - what's more, there has not to my knowledge been any removals since late August, likely because of the strategy being so poorly received that Warner's stock now sits at ~65% of the value it held before the cuts occurred. They're literally doing a bunch right now
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Barry Bluejeans posted:there has not to my knowledge been any removals since late August, likely because of the strategy being so poorly received that Warner's stock now sits at ~65% of the value it held before the cuts occurred. Since this Sunday night they announced they're deleting Westworld (their actual biggest show between Thrones' ending and House of the Dragons' premiering) and The Nevers, Barry Bluejeans posted:those cuts only affected streaming content both of which were HBO hits, not Max-exclusives (They also announced they're deleting two Max-exclusives, Minx and Love Life)
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AEW provides a consistent live audience that is surprisingly resilient in terms of shifts in time and night. They're coming to the end of a deal signed when they were a barely tested new kid. WBD have made a lot of money from them.
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My apologies for missing those stories, for whatever reason they didn't come up in my search. I stand by my larger point of Warner's traditional broadcast networks remaining unaffected thus far, Westworld and The Nevers being removed from Max doesn't equate to cost-cutting at HBO just because that's where those shows started.
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Barry Bluejeans posted:My apologies for missing those stories, for whatever reason they didn't come up in my search. I stand by my larger point of Warner's traditional broadcast networks remaining unaffected thus far, Westworld and The Nevers being removed from Max doesn't equate to cost-cutting at HBO just because that's where those shows started. The earlier round literally involved them pulling a finished season of a sitcom from TBS the night it was meant to premiere.
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It's also important to remember that AEW doesn't do reruns and that even if it did, nobody would be getting paid residuals for it. The math is completely different for AEW than the programming Zaslav is setting on fire.
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Gaz-L posted:The earlier round literally involved them pulling a finished season of a sitcom from TBS the night it was meant to premiere. In what sense is that cost-cutting? Warner already paid to produce the second season of Chad and executives made it clear that the decision was part of the company's decision to put less emphasis on scripted content (which if anything should be seen as good news by AEW fans since wrestling doesn't fall under that umbrella).
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WBD sure seems to be run by psycho capitalists that only care about max profits and have no interest in giving people something to watch, or having enough employees to do that without overworking them. the chance of anything good happening is very low
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I’m starting to think none of this streaming stuff makes any sense nor turns a profit and we live in a sham society.
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Isn't there already a TV deal thread? I just want to get hyped for weekly ROH to start up again. Don't care where it airs. Part of me is worried it's still a ways away since there wasn't any sort of Honor Club ad on the pape, but I'm also hopeful for a real big NJPW connection if they're waiting til after Wrestle Kingdom for official announcements.
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Again, whatever ROH didn't get seems a lot less relevant than WBD once again adding AEW content with the new reality show when they had a chance earlier this year to bail completely on AEW reality shows. And the relevance of the HBO Max stuff is basically just more par for the course with WBD moving away from scripted. HBO Max is about to be combined with Discovery+ and unscripted content will be more important to the service. This could be good or bad for AEW, who knows. But right now it seems to be good for them on TV because WBD keeps buying their content.
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Dec 13, 2022 15:22
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Westworld was very poorly booked the past few seasons.
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The thing with Westworld is it doesn't seem like they are going to take a write down on it, they are going to try to sell the rights to other streamers and I don't think this is the first time Westworld has gone off HBO Max. So at some point it will be back.
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HBO should trade Dogshit Westworld to AMC in exchange for Mad Men.
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Westworld needs to become part of the Deadwood Cinematic Universe.
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Lamuella posted:Westworld needs to become part of the Deadwood Cinematic Universe. Let Chuck Taylor say "Cocksucker"
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Honor Club seems a fine thing for the time being with so many networks being skittish and stuff getting axed left and right. I mean, you can be rich enough to buy an entire network like AXS and put your wrestling program on it, doesn't mean anyone will watch it (Although I think Impact did get over 100,000 viewers recently so good for them).
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Which wrestler would do the best job cutting Al Swearengen’s “Pain or damage don’t end the world…” speech as a promo?
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Actually, every single HBO show is part of the Dream On Extended Universe, as all the shows are the wild imaginings of TV obsessed Brian Benben. The TV static in the HBO show openings signals this
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What lovely streaming company is going to buy a show that got cancelled without a finale
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They like to do the cancelling themselves
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NienNunb posted:HBO should trade Dogshit Westworld to AMC in exchange for Mad Men.
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they ought to make a cowboy show.
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Still Thinking about “twenty-ocho” Good crowd.
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The Stroker Ace posted:Which wrestler would do the best job cutting Al Swearengen’s “Pain or damage don’t end the world…” speech as a promo? Eddie Kingston. Butcher and Blade would be a fun option as well.
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ROH needs an EB Farnum and a Dan Dority now more than ever
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Nah The Libertines sucked
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Bring back the "white guy with beard" division to ROH.
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Tato posted:Actually, every single HBO show is part of the Dream On Extended Universe, as all the shows are the wild imaginings of TV obsessed Brian Benben. The TV static in the HBO show openings signals this man i loved that show so much when i was fourteen
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Rick posted:Bring back the "white guy with beard" division to ROH. It's called the tag team division.
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Gaz-L posted:It's called the tag team division. why do you think Tony put Josh Woods and Tony Nese together
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JOHN CENA posted:i can't wait to watch ring of honor on honor club Been saying this to myself every hour on the hour.
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Ring of Hour on the Hour
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Gaz-L posted:It's called the tag team division. Alaois posted:why do you think Tony put Josh Woods and Tony Nese together lmao
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The Stroker Ace posted:I’m starting to think none of this streaming stuff makes any sense nor turns a profit and we live in a sham society. You're completely correct, and there were warning signs and people (*proudly raises hand among them) who'd seen this stuff coming from the moment the boom started that the burst was 1) coming and 2) going to be devastating when it hit. So far it's been Even Worse than expected, unfortunately/somehow (we all saw skyrocketing prices, every distributor trying to get a piece of the pie and a lot outright dying/being crippled in the process of trying and finding out the hard way about the burst, 2-3 monopolies that own everything taking control, etc; nobody ever could have expected that content would actually be erased from history entirely, and we're also seeing an unprecedented increase in content promised renewals having them rescinded and erased, even after already having been filmed)
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Quibi but for wrestling
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https://twitter.com/rushtoroblanco/status/1602477865508798465 RUSH.
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Malcolm Excellent posted:Quibi but for wrestling Monday night raw?
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Chris James 2 posted:You're completely correct, and there were warning signs and people (*proudly raises hand among them) who'd seen this stuff coming from the moment the boom started that the burst was 1) coming and 2) going to be devastating when it hit. So far it's been Even Worse than expected, unfortunately/somehow (we all saw skyrocketing prices, every distributor trying to get a piece of the pie and a lot outright dying/being crippled in the process of trying and finding out the hard way about the burst, 2-3 monopolies that own everything taking control, etc; nobody ever could have expected that content would actually be erased from history entirely, and we're also seeing an unprecedented increase in content promised renewals having them rescinded and erased, even after already having been filmed) Yeah I'm still not sure how you can delete a show you already aired and call it a tax write off. I'd be surprised if anything surprised me anymore.
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