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Cojawfee posted:Who was the first person to poo poo on a plane in flight. I don’t know, but Gerard Finneran is the all-time plane-pooping champ
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircraft_lavatory "The British Supermarine Stranraer flying boat, which first flew in 1934, was fitted with a toilet that was open to the air. When the lid was lifted in flight, airflow produced a whistling noise that led to the aircraft being nicknamed the "Whistling Shithouse"."
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https://www.theautopian.com/how-i-got-my-navy-callsign-by-making GBS threads-myself-in-an-f-a-18-fighter-jet-twice/
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Lord Stimperor posted:Angry french and Brazilian plane nerds shake their fists in anger at you
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Sagebrush posted:https://www.theautopian.com/how-i-got-my-navy-callsign-by-making GBS threads-myself-in-an-f-a-18-fighter-jet-twice/ I read this story a while ago and recall it fondly. Good click.
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Sagebrush posted:https://www.theautopian.com/how-i-got-my-navy-callsign-by-making GBS threads-myself-in-an-f-a-18-fighter-jet-twice/ A+ content.
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Sagebrush posted:the wrights were the first people to fly a plane (1) that maintained altitude under its own power and (2) was fully controllable in yaw, pitch and roll, allowing coordinated flight. until you have both of those things you're either gliding or not in control of the vehicle. Sort of. There was no independent rudder control, it was aileron-rudder interconnected with both controlled by the cradle.
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https://twitter.com/jaredbkeller/status/1603804421682393088?s=20&t=361rCivtEj_X6PHkLAZIow https://taskandpurpose.com/news/air-force-call-sign-titties/
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Phanatic posted:*On* the plane? lol
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Sagebrush posted:the wrights were the first people to fly a plane (1) that maintained altitude under its own power and (2) was fully controllable in yaw, pitch and roll, allowing coordinated flight. until you have both of those things you're either gliding or not in control of the vehicle. The builder of Tiira would question those requirements. He flew 70 hours without ailerons. Finnish "Tiira 1", home built from farm equipment and flown without aviation experience in 1973
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you don't need three discrete control surfaces for controllable flight in all three axes; the pou de ciel design also doesn't have ailerons and there are of course very many rudderless flying wings out there my understanding is that other pioneer designers like langley contemporaneous with the wrights just didn't believe in roll at all and conceptualized aircraft that would ascend to a given height and then navigate with yaw alone, remaining totally laterally static e: also, the analysis im still waiting for is someone making the case that the wrights succeeded because they were ace and im only half joking. queer theory-based aviation historiography when??? HookedOnChthonics fucked around with this message at 03:14 on Dec 18, 2022 |
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vessbot posted:Sort of. There was no independent rudder control, it was aileron-rudder interconnected with both controlled by the cradle. the point is they recognized that aircraft had to turn by rolling and that yaw and roll were linked. they knew that you wouldn't be able to just climb up into the air and then steer around with a rudder like a boat, as most of their rivals were attempting. Saukkis posted:The builder of Tiira would question those requirements. He flew 70 hours without ailerons. with the benefit of several decades of aerodynamic research, he knew that yaw-roll coupling would make his plane generally controllable even without physical ailerons. notably, he would still have control in all three axes -- just not fully independent control. ercoupes also don't have rudder pedals, but they do have three-axis control. there are a number of maneuvers that tiira and ercoupes are unable to perform, though. HookedOnChthonics posted:my understanding is that other pioneer designers like langley contemporaneous with the wrights just didn't believe in roll at all and conceptualized aircraft that would ascend to a given height and then navigate with yaw alone, remaining totally laterally static yes, that's basically it. Sagebrush fucked around with this message at 03:32 on Dec 18, 2022 |
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I wonder if we could make wing-warping practical again with, like, flexible composites
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So it’s a canard biplane, with contrarotating pusher props driven by a single engine? I’m sold, if only you can give it floats. FuturePastNow posted:I wonder if we could make wing-warping practical again with, like, flexible composites  Boeing X-53 Active Aerolastic Wing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5TI8e90HQo
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Plastic_Gargoyle posted:https://twitter.com/jaredbkeller/status/1603804421682393088?s=20&t=361rCivtEj_X6PHkLAZIow Shoulda rigged the reg number to be 58-0008, they were already halfway there. 
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vessbot posted:Sort of. There was no independent rudder control, it was aileron-rudder interconnected with both controlled by the cradle. Also no ailerons, the Wright Flyer used wing warping which was still quite common at the time in gliders.
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Bondematt posted:Also no ailerons, the Wright Flyer used wing warping which was still quite common at the time in gliders. Oops! Lol yeah.
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So you're saying I should go to the Smithsonian and burn the wright "flyer" down because it is a fraud?
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Didn’t Curtis invented ailerons to get around the Wright’s patent on wing warping?
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Yep. And they tried to sue him for it too, iirc.
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Cojawfee posted:So you're saying I should go to the Smithsonian and burn the wright "flyer" down because it is a fraud? Ardeem posted:Didn’t Curtis invented ailerons to get around the Wright’s patent on wing warping? as part of this lawsuit, curtiss modified langley's aerodrome, which had been very unsuccessfully tested a few days before the Wright brothers' first flight, and got it airborne, to retroactively claim it as the true first airplane. langley was the smithsonian museum secretary, so they supported his claim, and the wrights in turn refused to donate anything to the collection https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wright_brothers#Smithsonian_feud so up until 1942 they would have helped you do it! HookedOnChthonics fucked around with this message at 21:14 on Dec 18, 2022 |
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Sagebrush posted:Yep. And they tried to sue him for it too, iirc. To add something to this, the Wrights actually won the lawsuit (and several more), with the side effect being that the "patent wars" between them and Curtiss largely blocked development of new airplanes in the US until WW1. At that point, the US Government stepped in and set up a "patent pool" where all US aircraft manufacturers paid a nominal fee (which went to the Curtiss and Wright companies) for being able to use any of the patents in the pool.
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azflyboy posted:To add something to this, the Wrights actually won the lawsuit (and several more), with the side effect being that the "patent wars" between them and Curtiss largely blocked development of new airplanes in the US until WW1. drat we lost 15 years of aircraft development, we could have the 300pax 777 replacement 737MAX20 by now
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loving birds.
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stealie72 posted:What birds are at 38k feet? "“Rüppell’s vulture” posted:Rüppell's vulture was confirmed to have been ingested by a jet engine of an airplane flying over Abidjan, Ivory Coast on 29 November 1973 at an altitude of 11,300 m (37,000 ft).
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Maybe it was a big bug.
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Starlink debris.
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They think that it was internal stress finally giving way. I’m sure that many of you considered that but dismissed it as unremarkable.
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stealie72 posted:What birds are at 38k feet? One less than before.
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Platystemon posted:They think that it was internal stress finally giving way. Why would the windshield be stressed at 38k feet? It’s a windshield, it doesn’t have emotions.
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FrozenVent posted:Why would the windshield be stressed at 38k feet? This callous attitude is why it was so stressed to begin with.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:This callous attitude is why it was so stressed to begin with. FrozenVent posted:Why would the windshield be stressed at 38k feet? And I thought aviation had learned to deal with mental health concerns.
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FrozenVent posted:loving birds. Platystemon posted:They think that it was internal stress finally giving way. It's probably neither of these things; my bet is on a windscreen heat failure. 99 times out of 100 that's what causes this kind of failure, when one of the heating element wires shorts out and overheats the windscreen panel locally.
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Interesting.quote:I’ve had 2 different window situations in the CRJ7. One was a window arcing that formed a hairline crack on the side windshield. Didn’t develop further, but the plane was toast when we got to the outstation. The other was a heater arcing, started the hairline fractures, then BAM. Like a gunshot, the whole middle ply shattered. quote:This was pretty common on CRJs for a bit. Described as sounding like you said or a gun shot. quote:This one was surprisingly quiet, I’ve had others that were like a .357 going off in the cockpit
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O yeah no biggie it does that sometimes
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Lord Stimperor posted:And I thought aviation had learned to deal with mental health concerns. lol, lmao, rofl, etc
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