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gonna make a paper but its just trotsky's love letters to his wife and clipart of roses and poo poo second wife, i mean. the first wife and family, uh, didn't... that didn't work out so nice. Cuttlefush has issued a correction as of 18:08 on Dec 23, 2022 |
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Dec 23, 2022 18:03
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Cuttlefush posted:gonna make a paper but its just trotsky's love letters to his wife and clipart of roses and poo poo James Joyce's love letters but Trotskyistly
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Dec 23, 2022 18:47
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if were going to run a trot paper you have to be nice to and say nice things about trotsky and trotskyists. i cant believe i have to explain this
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Dec 23, 2022 19:20
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croup coughfield posted:if were going to run a trot paper you have to be nice to and say nice things about trotsky and trotskyists. i cant believe i have to explain this
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Dec 23, 2022 19:25
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Truga posted:this is revisionism my man was a good general and a passionate socialist revolutionary with deep love for the people. he was an accomplished theorist as well. he was just also a loud-mouthed weirdo and if cspam posters cant empathize with that i just dont know what to say
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Dec 23, 2022 19:28
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croup coughfield posted:my man was a good general and a passionate socialist revolutionary with deep love for the people. he was an accomplished theorist as well. he was just also a loud-mouthed weirdo and if cspam posters cant empathize with that i just dont know what to say The WSWS guy linked me to a screed wherein Trotsky compared hitler and Stalin and said Stalin was worse. Like no wonder they thought he was working with the nazis
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Dec 23, 2022 20:24
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Sunny Side Up posted:The WSWS guy linked me to a screed wherein Trotsky compared hitler and Stalin and said Stalin was worse. Like no wonder they thought he was working with the nazis considering his relationship with stalin at the time i dont know what you wanted him to say lol
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Dec 23, 2022 20:26
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Sunny Side Up posted:The WSWS guy linked me to a screed wherein Trotsky compared hitler and Stalin and said Stalin was worse. Like no wonder they thought he was working with the nazis was this the first recorded  ?
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Dec 23, 2022 21:03
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i mean the bit about trot newspapers not making GBS threads on trotsky
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Dec 23, 2022 21:10
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'wsws' is the sound you make to attract roman polanski's cat
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Dec 23, 2022 21:20
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I really can't understand why anybody would base their political identity on that Stalin made mistakes and Soviet Union wasn't perfect. Like this really shouldn't be some kind of revelatory deep cut. Or are there people who are like anti Weimar republicans? Like yeah, poo poo sucked but what are you gonna do about it? Complain to kaiser? Print a newspaper that is full of really angry editorials about Weimar ministers?
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Dec 23, 2022 21:32
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plenty of rightoids will point to weimar and say that the west is becoming weimarified and degenerate and there needs to be a race war to purge all the lesser races.
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Dec 23, 2022 21:33
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Fish of hemp posted:I really can't understand why anybody would base their political identity on that Stalin made mistakes and Soviet Union wasn't perfect. Bernsteinite SPD member spotted
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Dec 23, 2022 21:34
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Fish of hemp posted:I really can't understand why anybody would base their political identity on that Stalin made mistakes and Soviet Union wasn't perfect. Yeah honestly who gives a gently caress, it was one experiment on which further were constructed. Practice, theory, practice. Perceptual knowledge, rational knowledge, action, repeat.
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Dec 23, 2022 22:51
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There are communists in the state department?
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Dec 23, 2022 22:51
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Fish of hemp posted:I really can't understand why anybody would base their political identity on that Stalin made mistakes and Soviet Union wasn't perfect. because, due to thorough atomization and depoliticization, they think "politics" is "i feel morally and intellectually superior to someone" and have latched onto historical trivia which grants them this feeling.
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Dec 23, 2022 23:22
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Fish of hemp posted:I really can't understand why anybody would base their political identity on that Stalin made mistakes and Soviet Union wasn't perfect. im with her
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Dec 24, 2022 01:26
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SorePotato posted:There are communists in the state department? remanded to
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Dec 24, 2022 02:44
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croup coughfield posted:if were going to run a trot paper you have to be nice to and say nice things about trotsky and trotskyists. i cant believe i have to explain this I mean yeah it was my dad that introduced me to WSWS and got me a book from David North, SEP chairperson, so if we have to genuinely do this I think I could hack it they've also had a good line on COVID throughout and I can respect that EDIT: they've also done a bunch of good articles exposing the Nazism suffusing the Ukrainian state
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Dec 24, 2022 05:24
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croup coughfield posted:my man was a good general and a passionate socialist revolutionary with deep love for the people. he was an accomplished theorist as well. he was just also a loud-mouthed weirdo and if cspam posters cant empathize with that i just dont know what to say trotsky was a political appointee to the red army how about that stalinism, "comrade"
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Dec 24, 2022 05:29
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gradenko_2000 posted:I mean yeah it was my dad that introduced me to WSWS and got me a book from David North, SEP chairperson, so if we have to genuinely do this I think I could hack it if so that would be genuinely the first good content i've seen from WSWS in long time, please link
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Dec 24, 2022 05:30
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HiroProtagonist posted:if so that would be genuinely the first good content i've seen from WSWS in long time, please link Grzegorz Rossoliński-Liebe's biography of Stepan Bandera: A devastating portrait of the figurehead of Ukrainian fascism: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/10/04/kmmk-o04.html Historians capitulate to war propaganda over Ukraine: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/03/04/acad-m04.html from 2020: Bandera supporters march in major Ukrainian cities after government names Nazi collaborators “national heroes”: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/01/10/nazi-j10.html ___ Study finds that COVID was the leading cause of death globally in 2021: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/12/22/kujo-d22.html COVID denial vs. reality: The growing threat of Omicron subvariants: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/06/14/pers-j14.html quote:The only country in the world which has maintained public health measures to prevent COVID-19 from running rampant is China, where a Zero-COVID policy has saved millions of lives since January 2020. Most recently, Chinese society defeated the Omicron BA.2 subvariant, which ripped through Shanghai and other parts of the country beginning in early March. this last article I've linked was written in June of this year, and while China has obviously since changed some of its policies since then, WSWS has then also taken the line that this was a mistake.
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Dec 24, 2022 05:36
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Aeolius posted:'wsws' is the sound you make to attract roman polanski's cat
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Dec 24, 2022 05:46
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gradenko_2000 posted:Grzegorz Rossoliński-Liebe's biography of Stepan Bandera: A devastating portrait of the figurehead of Ukrainian fascism: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/10/04/kmmk-o04.html i'm impressed. i would have expected a way worse line on both topics given wsws's other output
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Dec 24, 2022 05:48
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Ferrinus posted:i'm impressed. i would have expected a way worse line on both topics given wsws's other output Yeah being naive to their history, this is what I saw at first when that guy started engaging with me: zero Covid and ukraine full of nazis, okay yeah seems not bad! But no they’re freaking unhinged and completely disconnected like that anarkiddie caricature of the Eurocentric Marx worshipper
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Dec 24, 2022 05:53
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oh yeah I almost forgot the piece de resistance: https://twitter.com/claraweiss_wsws/status/1600854643348676608 that said, again, what brought about this line of conversation was that WSWS also endorses Joseph Scalice's hit pieces on the CPP, and they're almost certainly taking some of their post-Zero-Covid China coverage from Jennifer Zheng and the Falun Gong crowd unknowingly or not, so I'm not without my disagreements
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Dec 24, 2022 05:55
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gradenko_2000 posted:oh yeah I almost forgot the piece de resistance: Whoa wait how do they not worship Bloodlands lmao it’s all their anti-USSR (anti-STALINIST!!!) stuff just repackaged, isn’t it?
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Dec 24, 2022 13:12
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HiroProtagonist posted:trotsky was a political appointee to the red army what does that have to do with anything
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Dec 24, 2022 14:30
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i like the clr james version of things where stalin's bureaucracy restored capitalism in the ussr
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Dec 24, 2022 14:55
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croup coughfield posted:what does that have to do with anything it meant stalin loved trotsky
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Dec 24, 2022 15:04
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Given that I defend Yugoslav, Chinese, Vietnamese, etc policies of calculated temporary compromise for the sake of sheer survival, and still consider the states that made those compromises communist, I gotta say that looking at the Soviet Union during Stalin I absolutely wouldn't describe it as "restoration of capitalism" in any way, shape, or form. e: We could argue that capitalism was never abolished in the first place in any of those countries, but if you follow that line of thought to its end, you have to reach the conclusion that to truly abolish it anywhere, you need to topple it completely as the world's dominant socioeconomic system, which needs to actually be achived somehow as a process, at which point you're back to square one, and the line 'it was never abolished despite the revolutions' turns out to just be pointless masturbation. my dad has issued a correction as of 16:01 on Dec 24, 2022 |
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Dec 24, 2022 15:55
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my dad posted:Given that I defend Yugoslav, Chinese, Vietnamese, etc policies of calculated temporary compromise for the sake of sheer survival, and still consider the states that made those compromises communist, I gotta say that looking at the Soviet Union during Stalin I absolutely wouldn't describe it as "restoration of capitalism" in any way, shape, or form. if anyone in here says it was a restoration of capitalism under stalin we ice pick them
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Dec 24, 2022 16:33
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i read wsws because they best coverage on labour issues internationally. but then also do stuff like this lol. 
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Dec 24, 2022 19:08
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Cuttlefush posted:it meant stalin loved trotsky this is true, but i suspected that user would go all-in on meritocracy bullshit lol
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Dec 24, 2022 20:06
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Cuttlefush posted:it meant stalin loved trotsky Someone needs to photoshop Stalin smooching Trotsky on his lips
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Dec 24, 2022 20:24
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here’s some source material   
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Dec 24, 2022 20:28
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my man joe always makes time for the homies
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Dec 24, 2022 20:31
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sube posted:i read wsws because they best coverage on labour issues internationally. but then also do stuff like this lol. The only mistake stalin made with trotsky is he waited until 1940 to greenlight the ice axe instead of 1929. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Dec 24, 2022 20:33
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mawarannahr posted:here’s some source material Stalin Did Nothing Wrong
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Dec 24, 2022 20:35
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trotsky doing one of those weird KFC commercials
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Dec 24, 2022 21:18
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