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Speaking as someone who's been following the manga off and on after enjoying the anime... I just feel like that sucked. On the one end, it's an attack that's completely out of scale with the rest of the setting. If someone can destroy the world in a matter of seconds, then having the ultra-high-end badasses so far 'just' be able to take out a city block feels goofy. This isn't a tool for a shadow war that was kept secret for centuries. This is a WMD that makes nukes look like pop caps. On the other, it doesn't matter. At all. It's just no-sold and accomplishes nothing. It's a whole chapter for Chaotzu to blow up, but without the waiting for Goku aspect that can give weight to the human fights in DBZ. (Sure, Krillin can't win, but if he can just run out the clock...) Maybe later chapters will do something to justify this, or the official release will read well enough to change my assessment but for now, it just feels like a waste of everyone's time.
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# ? Dec 24, 2022 09:57 |
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# ? May 28, 2024 01:09 |
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ohh wowww Gege you pulled a fast one on us who would've thought that it was going to be Yuki (badass cool lady that's been hyped since the beginning) that dies and not Choso in this series where all the female characters get owned over and over. At least she accomplished *checks notes* reader exposition and making Kenjaku sweat a little. Badass On the plus side, Kenajaku's days are numbered. They were inhabiting a ladies body, they used that lady's cursed technique AND they're about to merge with Tengan, another lady. Track record is not looking good. And I guess Yuki's maximum technique is why she's classified as special grade. But it doesn't seem very... practical? If it's an all or nothing destroy the world attack.
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# ? Dec 24, 2022 13:04 |
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Knowing Reverse Cursed Technique and being able to buff up her physical attacks to an absurd degree is absurdly strong along with her general prowess. Took out a special grade cursed spirit at the start of the fight in a single blow. Just this rear end in a top hat is bullshit and no sold pretty much everything
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# ? Dec 24, 2022 17:34 |
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Yeah i dont like this I dont hate it but i dont like it. Kenjaku would absolutely not have been beat here but did it have to be yuki who died.
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# ? Dec 24, 2022 18:12 |
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maybe uh… maybe RCT can bring someone back from being cut in half? Just like how Nobara could be brought back after having her brains explode on the side of the wall… cuz she’s totally still alive, right?
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# ? Dec 24, 2022 20:01 |
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Wait? Did Yuki's shikigami get destroyed? If not was her ace in the whole maybe a way to revive through it or is her ace with it just that her cursed technique also affects it? She mentioned something a couple chapters ago and honestly I too am tired of the few ladies of JJK eating poo poo on top of Kenjaku just surviving a black hole.
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# ? Dec 24, 2022 20:30 |
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lol that the only two woman fighters left is maki and miss Michael Jackson with a aviary, at least horikoshi let mirko go crazy before she got shelved
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# ? Dec 24, 2022 21:29 |
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and miwa too but she doesn’t have a single feat to her name so I forgot her
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# ? Dec 24, 2022 21:31 |
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Yeah no, I still love JJK on a whole so far but that loving sucked
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# ? Dec 25, 2022 21:35 |
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Yeah this chapter sucked.Oxxidation posted:i am losing hope for ever seeing nobara again I've pretty much already completely gave up on that. Maybe Gege will surprise me and do the right thing, but at this point I'm basically convinced she's actually dead.
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# ? Dec 25, 2022 23:53 |
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Nobara's resonance technique is one of those things seems like it'd be a major trump card for loving up all of these weird interlocked techniques being used so that's why I'm guessing she isn't going to be dead in addition to simply not stating outright what's up with her.
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# ? Dec 26, 2022 01:23 |
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The next chapter it reveals that Maki just died offscreen to some random sorcerer.
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# ? Dec 26, 2022 04:46 |
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One of the foreign soldiers coming to Japan is actual America's strongest exorcist, and she's actually inspired by Gojo Satoru. She's going to die to Kenjaku.
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# ? Dec 26, 2022 04:48 |
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That's an unflattering comparison, MHA actually pretended Stars and Stripes dying actually mattered for a few panels after it happened lol
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# ? Dec 26, 2022 06:04 |
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you can not like how jjk handled this fight but it was infinitely better than star and stripes, a character that was introduced for the sole purpose of losing to the bad guy
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# ? Dec 26, 2022 06:31 |
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Uh wasnt this lady basically just introduced to lose to the bad guy? what did she ever do before
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# ? Dec 26, 2022 06:49 |
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she was introduced a while ago. iirc it was in one of the earlier flashbacks with geto and gojo stars & stripes was literally introduced for the fight she died in
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# ? Dec 26, 2022 06:51 |
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Jerkface posted:Uh wasnt this lady basically just introduced to lose to the bad guy? what did she ever do before She's been around since chapter 0, and was Todo's teacher as well as one of the four special grade sorcerors, along with Gojo, Geto, and Yuta (you know, the strongest people in the setting). However, she hadn't done much of anything yet, so she was in a little guy on the Simpsons position, where you knew she'd eventually do something good. Only she didn't. (So, you know. Even worse than Stars).
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# ? Dec 26, 2022 06:54 |
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I mean the black hole was cool as hell until Kenjaku came out basically unharmed due to some really flimsy reasoning.
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# ? Dec 26, 2022 06:58 |
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Manatee Cannon posted:you can not like how jjk handled this fight but it was infinitely better than star and stripes, a character that was introduced for the sole purpose of losing to the bad guy Agree with you 100% on this btw , I just couldn't resist the joke
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# ? Dec 26, 2022 08:38 |
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yuki playing the long con by irradiating kenjaku with Hawkings particles
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# ? Dec 26, 2022 12:14 |
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Their ultimate goal was to learn his technique. Idk I’m hoping that the death was a fake out, now that Kenneth jaku said a technique. But probably not
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# ? Dec 28, 2022 05:24 |
Electric Phantasm posted:I mean the black hole was cool as hell until Kenjaku came out basically unharmed due to some really flimsy reasoning. It was a super impressive display until oops it was actually for nothing sorry
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# ? Dec 28, 2022 18:59 |
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The Notorious ZSB posted:It was a super impressive display until oops it was actually for nothing sorry The more I think about it, the more it pisses me off lol
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# ? Dec 28, 2022 19:40 |
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they're gonna have to pull some real poo poo out of their asses to beat Kenjaku if even a black hole couldn't do it
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# ? Dec 28, 2022 20:03 |
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CharlestonJew posted:they're gonna have to pull some real poo poo out of their asses to beat Kenjaku if even a black hole couldn't do it To be exact he was just lucky and had a counter to it. Namely a power that makes him not affected by Gravity. Other powers should work fine on him. MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Dec 28, 2022 |
# ? Dec 28, 2022 20:29 |
MonsterEnvy posted:To be exact he was just lucky and had a counter to it. Namely a power that makes him not affected by Gravity. oh thanks for catching us up
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# ? Dec 28, 2022 21:28 |
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Gave me the same drat feel of Tanjiro beheading the spider dude, and then next episode he’s like lol I’m immune ackshually
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# ? Dec 28, 2022 21:39 |
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Bread Set Jettison posted:Gave me the same drat feel of Tanjiro beheading the spider dude, and then next episode he’s like lol I’m immune ackshually He was not immune that case, he just cut off his own head before Tanjiro could.
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# ? Dec 28, 2022 22:38 |
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MonsterEnvy posted:To be exact he was just lucky and had a counter to it. Namely a power that makes him not affected by Gravity. Other powers should work fine on him. I can't complain that his gravity ability which was already demonstrated, actually was the positive application of an antigravity power. I will complain that this anti-grav technique was capable of withstanding a gravitational singularity and it was also a technique Yuji's mother possessed and Kenjaku is able to retain techniques between hosts like he's Deku from MHA. Unless Yuji's mother was also special grade it feels incredibly cheap that her technique was on par with a special grade technique of the same vein. I'll also complain that Yuki and Tengen basically saved the world from this attack and in doing so still managed to doom it because holding back gave Kenjaku just enough capability to survive a black hole. It's just unsatisfying to see play out again and again when you have villains that get to remain ahead of the protagonists until the final moments of the series. Of which this is not.
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# ? Dec 29, 2022 04:53 |
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Brought To You By posted:I can't complain that his gravity ability which was already demonstrated, actually was the positive application of an antigravity power. I will complain that this anti-grav technique was capable of withstanding a gravitational singularity and it was also a technique Yuji's mother possessed and Kenjaku is able to retain techniques between hosts like he's Deku from MHA. Unless Yuji's mother was also special grade it feels incredibly cheap that her technique was on par with a special grade technique of the same vein. I'll also complain that Yuki and Tengen basically saved the world from this attack and in doing so still managed to doom it because holding back gave Kenjaku just enough capability to survive a black hole. Gravity Singularity or not, not being affected by gravity should make one immune for a bit regardless.
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# ? Dec 29, 2022 08:34 |
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Why would being immune to gravity make him immune to the insane heat, insane cold, or the impact of time dilation?
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# ? Dec 29, 2022 09:57 |
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This post turned out longer than I wanted but such is my burden. MonsterEnvy posted:Gravity Singularity or not, not being affected by gravity should make one immune for a bit regardless. Cursed Technique Lapse does increase the output of a technique, but the only person we've seen really use it is Gojo. a.k.a the guy who was just born better than everyone. With the six eyes and being born with his potential I get why Blue is such a crushing force. Lapse being able to avoid post-DE instability is an unnecessary justification because he was already back to using Geto's spirit manipulation and his own gravity power just fine by all appearances. Kenjaku is skilled but his skillset previously emphasized that he was really good with barrier techniques as his original power and the rest of all his planning fell into place when Geto died because it gave him access to cursed spirit manipulation. This played into the whole situation with Tengen evolving into something Geto would be able to take control of. Because of this the best techniques he was able to use for most of the series has been summoning powerful spirits and Geto's Maximum technique of Uzumaki. Basically using the power of his current host. Unlike Gojo or even Yuki's techniques, Geto's technique is a skill prorated by how many spirits Geto/Kenjaku is able to acquire and/or burn for any single Uzumaki. Ultimately, I'm being asked to accept that a guy who has already been burning CE this whole fight, who has been pushed to the brink, and who is confronted with a figurative black hole. Was able to survive with only damage to his shirt because a power he can only use for 6 seconds (maybe) was able to 100% match the output against another technique from someone who was born a special grade vs someone I don't think was anywhere near that level of output, that being Kaori. Using the body of someone whose strength and technique is not the same kind of individual power like Gojo or Yuki. If Gege wanted to make this more palatable; Kenjaku should be missing an arm and like one of his legs should be incredibly hosed up. He should be limping to Tengen's real body and instead of Lapse, how about he used the Maximum version of Kaori's technique along with his own body being used as a domain. Make it so that he seems to have put in the most effort possible on a gamble and still got hosed up as the result. Because he's very quickly in the course of this fight become an archetype of villain I find boring. And I still can't shake the suspicion that someone is going to pop up to fight him even after all this because otherwise he wins.
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# ? Dec 29, 2022 10:25 |
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Yo! I'm Kogane!! I'd normally consider myself to be very firmly against the United States sending in paramilitary black ops squads to kidnap and experiment on people, but that new lady that just got introduced is pretty badass so I'll give them the benefit of the doubt this time.
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# ? Jan 6, 2023 00:27 |
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Link to early translation https://onepiecechapters.com/chapters/5591/jujutsu-kaisen-chapter-209 Going back in time a bit.
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# ? Jan 6, 2023 00:28 |
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tweet my meat posted:Yo! I'm Kogane!! did you forget last chapter? She’s gonna die brutally to the first special cursed grade that needs a jobber
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# ? Jan 6, 2023 00:50 |
lmao at yuji just doing a hard 180 and booting that grenade
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# ? Jan 6, 2023 02:52 |
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Comedy man continues to be the best.
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# ? Jan 6, 2023 03:29 |
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I find it funny that existence of supernatural superpowers are seen as a source of energy from various governments. https://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/2011-07-13 Nonetheless given that the powers of sorcerers and cursed spirits seem to in a biological competition with one and another e.g. the existence of one pushes and makes for the existence of the other, if cursed energy was assimilated as an energy source and society improved like the SMB comic, eventually human negativity will overall fall, leading fewer and fewer cursed spirits and thus fewer and fewer sorcerers. (Though it seems that Sukuna's existence always means that cursed spirits will always exist, and perhaps governments acquiring cursed energy as an energy source will lead to warfare, raising human negativity and increasing the amount of curse energy in the world.)
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# ? Jan 6, 2023 19:42 |
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# ? May 28, 2024 01:09 |
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I just noticed Kenjaku and Uraume were browsing the site of the Zenin massacre, specifically the epicentre of Maki's awakening. lol that in the end it was Ogi that became food for cursed spirits
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# ? Jan 7, 2023 16:25 |