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I’ve never read ASOIAF but goddamn y’all have posted almost 2000 pages and this thread is 11 years old.
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Nov 30, 2022 22:51
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I did it, I bought loving Fire and Blood even though I swore never to give GRRM another dime unless he publishes Winds of Winter. That was a really good season of television and I was weak and browsing Amazon one night.  And now I've come to the part where I find out that Elmo Tully named his son Kermit and I feel like he's just laughing and spitting in my eyes. e: fuuuuuck Kermit's brother is named Oscar. gently caress you gurm Phenotype fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Nov 30, 2022 |
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Nov 30, 2022 23:38
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Mordiceius posted:I’ve never read ASOIAF but goddamn y’all have posted almost 2000 pages and this thread is 11 years old. Imagine how much we'd post if a new book came out
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Nov 30, 2022 23:43
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Phenotype posted:I did it, I bought loving Fire and Blood even though I swore never to give GRRM another dime unless he publishes Winds of Winter. That was a really good season of television and I was weak and browsing Amazon one night. Now you get to enjoy Fire and Blood blue balls too, because he's never going to finish the second half of that one either.
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Dec 1, 2022 00:08
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Phenotype posted:I did it, I bought loving Fire and Blood even though I swore never to give GRRM another dime unless he publishes Winds of Winter. That was a really good season of television and I was weak and browsing Amazon one night. Don’t forget Grover.
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Dec 1, 2022 04:11
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wait what the gently caress? there's supposed to be a sequel?? I thought it was wrapping up nicely and there's supposed to be another never-to-be-written sequel? that old cocksucker started himself a SECOND series that he'll never finish?? and from a quick google it looks like he says he won't release volume 2 until winds of winter is out which is just the most grrm thing I've ever heard. Goddammit why did I do this to myself? e: oh gently caress you're right there's a Grover Tully too gurm you motherfucker
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Dec 1, 2022 04:13
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Mordiceius posted:I’ve never read ASOIAF but goddamn y’all have posted almost 2000 pages and this thread is 11 years old. I pretty much hate all fantasy save for a few books or series. As much of a fucker as GRRM is, Asoiaf is one of the few series I like due to its focus on characters more than its world (most of the time, anyway).
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Dec 1, 2022 07:19
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Mordiceius posted:I’ve never read ASOIAF but goddamn y’all have posted almost 2000 pages and this thread is 11 years old. its a fun read if you don't care about endings
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Dec 1, 2022 08:31
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Paddyo posted:Now you get to enjoy Fire and Blood blue balls too, because he's never going to finish the second half of that one either. Eh, there really doesn't need to be a part two of that book. I finished it up in between episodes of HotD and was kind of surprised that people were talking about a sequel. The entire book was a complete narrative starting with the arrival of dragons and ending with the death of dragons that GRRM disguised as a historical document. I mean, of course GRRM claims there's more books because that's his gimmick, but it is very obviously a complete story that doesn't need a sequel.
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Dec 1, 2022 08:41
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Anonymous Zebra posted:Eh, there really doesn't need to be a part two of that book. I finished it up in between episodes of HotD and was kind of surprised that people were talking about a sequel. The entire book was a complete narrative starting with the arrival of dragons and ending with the death of dragons that GRRM disguised as a historical document. I mean, of course GRRM claims there's more books because that's his gimmick, but it is very obviously a complete story that doesn't need a sequel. Yeah, exactly. The only thing the two books would have in common is some of the characters would be descendants of others. There's nothing there to wait for with bated breath, it would be no great loss to skip the second one.
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Dec 1, 2022 13:54
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Mordiceius posted:I’ve never read ASOIAF but goddamn y’all have posted almost 2000 pages and this thread is 11 years old. You should read the whole thread 
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Dec 1, 2022 15:44
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I think GRRM could realistically write more of his fake history poo poo because it’s far easier for him to do than write a narrative.
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Dec 1, 2022 16:56
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Phenotype posted:I did it, I bought loving Fire and Blood even though I swore never to give GRRM another dime unless he publishes Winds of Winter. That was a really good season of television and I was weak and browsing Amazon one night. I don't know how to break this to you but Kermit is a for-real name that existed before the Muppets did.
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So the only real book news is that a Reddit user named gsteff went to the Cushing Library where George donated a lot of his old notes and drafts and things and started reading through them. Most of the news has been centered around A Feast for Crows and and Dance With Dragons, including some changed plots: https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/z0x0qp/spoilers_extended_secrets_of_the_cushing_library/ It's a lot to read, so Preston & Carmine have been doing podcast episodes about some of the things that have been found: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDXRgitsFHM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkfm2NcwM-8 Finally finished up HotD. It was alright. I definitely agree that it rushes the plot, but I'm invested in what's happening.
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Dec 1, 2022 17:39
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Mad Hamish posted:I don't know how to break this to you but Kermit is a for-real name that existed before the Muppets did. I mean true, but when George names the four Tully's in the book Grover, Elmo, Kermit and Oscar I think it's pretty safe to say there's a deliberate thing going on here that's a little hard to ignore
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Dec 1, 2022 18:24
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DaysBefore posted:I mean true, but when George names the four Tully's in the book Grover, Elmo, Kermit and Oscar I think it's pretty safe to say there's a deliberate thing going on here that's a little hard to ignore https://www.quora.com/Why-did-GRRM-name-Tullys-after-Muppets Also, holy poo poo.. this.. http://www.westeros.org/BoD/Portal/
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Dec 2, 2022 09:41
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TERFherder posted:Also, holy poo poo.. this.. http://www.westeros.org/BoD/Portal/ What am I supposed to see here? Other than a black screen that says "connection error/ connection closed"?
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Dec 2, 2022 11:10
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RedSnapper posted:What am I supposed to see here? Other than a black screen that says "connection error/ connection closed"? Apparently it's some sort of portal that immediately blocks whatever the link was supposed to show us with a big demand to register/log in The OP probably assumed we're such great fans of GRRM that we're all members of the same fan platforms
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Dec 2, 2022 14:45
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DaysBefore posted:I mean true, but when George names the four Tully's in the book Grover, Elmo, Kermit and Oscar I think it's pretty safe to say there's a deliberate thing going on here that's a little hard to ignore There was also a giant in I believe Dance of Dragons that kills some knight whose sigil is a blue five point star. It’s an American football reference
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Dec 2, 2022 19:58
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He also had that reference to a giant beating a knight with the Dallas Cowboys symbol to death in Dance of Dragons, he has a lot of blatant pop culture references in his books. Edit: Arg! Beaten.
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Dec 2, 2022 20:04
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I can't figure out what's wrong with pop-culture references in your books/writing? Is this a thing unique to GRRM?
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Dec 2, 2022 20:10
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chaosapiant posted:I can't figure out what's wrong with pop-culture references in your books/writing? Is this a thing unique to GRRM? There's nothing wrong with them per se, but GRRM gets hailed as The American Tolkien, as if his books were art instead of pulp.
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Dec 2, 2022 20:19
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Well, Tolkien’s books aren’t that great either so I don’t have a problem with that
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Dec 2, 2022 20:21
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Max posted:He also had that reference to a giant beating a knight with the Dallas Cowboys symbol to death in Dance of Dragons, he has a lot of blatant pop culture references in his books. And Bill Bellichek being eaten by giants. Take the plunge! Okay! posted:Well, Tolkien’s books aren’t that great either so I don’t have a problem with that They still hold up pretty well for their age and while lots of authors get praise for "worldbuilding" it's rarely ever close to the level of detail put into Middle Earth (even if its world creation is just a retelling of Genesis).
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Dec 2, 2022 20:25
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chaosapiant posted:I can't figure out what's wrong with pop-culture references in your books/writing? Is this a thing unique to GRRM? Honestly there is nothing wrong with them existing and I don't think it is very blatant. The only reason I was even familiar with the football knight was because of the extra detail that went into his crest on the page. I thought he was someone important until I googled it and realized it was just him making a funny joke. I'm just pointing out they are in fact pop-culture references, and not coincidences.
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Dec 2, 2022 20:28
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Having a single dude with a blue star get eaten as a vague football reference is fine, because it's a one-off and it's nothing that would be at all out of place in-universe -- stars are as reasonable to have as a symbol as anything else, so sure, this blue star knight gets eaten along with the yellow stag knight and whoever else. I wouldn't have even cared if someone told me Grover Tully was named after the muppet, cause it's a single name that doesn't sound strange in-universe. It's just when I'm reading about his great-grandfathers Elmo, Kermit, and Oscar that I begin to feel like a bit of an rear end in a top hat. It's just too loving blatant for me to take seriously.
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Dec 2, 2022 23:56
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Speaking of writing, here's the latest from Preston. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8EXxUyV9R8 And the text. Hasn't quite captured GRRM's ways, he has Hotah actually do something.
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Libluini posted:Apparently it's some sort of portal that immediately blocks whatever the link was supposed to show us with a big demand to register/log in No I just assumed you knew how to click the "Guest" button, or could figure it out for yourself. It's an ASOIAF MUSH. It's text based online role play. I haven't even seen a MUSH in 20+ years. https://www.westeros.org/BoD/FAQ/ https://www.westeros.org/BoD/Articles/Entry/5956/ 
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Dec 6, 2022 07:36
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https://www.polygon.com/game-of-thrones/23499159/george-rr-martin-winds-of-winter-finish-release-date-pages wow im sure george will be done soon 
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Dec 8, 2022 18:13
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quote:He suggests that Martin has “writer’s constipation,” and advises him to change up his writing methods, in terms of still using a DOS computer and the WordStar word processor: “Try something else, then, ’cause that’s not working.” Understatement
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Dec 8, 2022 18:16
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Preston was right.
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Dec 8, 2022 18:23
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Maybe grrm could get an ai to complete the story for him? Couldn't be worse than season 8.
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pidan posted:Maybe grrm could get an ai to complete the story for him? Couldn't be worse than season 8. ChatGPT refused to tell me what it thinks happens to Stannis but I'm pretty sure it did generate the above post
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Dec 9, 2022 16:30
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GEORGEquote:So… about Casterly Rock… gently caress
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Dec 25, 2022 08:29
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Probably the only post by him in a decade that I kind-of enjoyed? I didn't fully read it though: I skimmed.
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Dec 25, 2022 11:17
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The Rock is too drat big.
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Dec 25, 2022 11:25
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Platystemon posted:The Rock is too drat big. I've been saying that about him since 2013.
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the lannisters have been playing dwarf fortress this whole time. playing everyone else for fools while they dig deep and greedily
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