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OPAONI
Jul 23, 2021

Angry Lobster posted:

Cain is literally the embodiment of impostor syndrome.

Meanwhile the Imperium gave him in Poster syndrome.

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habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.
I appreciated the Liberation of Gereon scenes with your standard awful Commissar amongst the RIP company as a counterpoint to the much less awful ones in the Tanith and Belladon.

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.


There's a pretty standard selection of Commissars in Necropolis as well

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


Later on in Gaunt’s Ghosts we get Hark (10% harsher and 50% more sarcastic than Gaunt), Ludd (little boy commissar), Fazekiel (OCD-coded lady commissar), and Blenner (loser idiot failson commissar). And briefly Edur, who doesn’t really get a personality.

Shroud
May 11, 2009

Azubah posted:

He still does awful things only when necessary, like gunning down the 'nid infected couple who "survived" in one Tau book.

Not awful, necessary, unless you're into Genestealer cults.

Molothecat
Jul 25, 2007

Wrath, hate, pain, and death!

and who isn't?

Calax
Oct 5, 2011

Molothecat posted:

and who isn't?

Stupid Sexy Genestealers....

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.
When you're here, you're family.

lonelylikezoidberg
Dec 19, 2007
Commissar chat: The Gaunt's Ghosts books aren't bad they're just boring.

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you

Azubah posted:

He still does awful things only when necessary, like gunning down the 'nid infected couple who "survived" in one Tau book.

Right after that when he saw some Tau that totally died in the Genestealer base returning to their ship, his first instinct was to try and warn the Tau as well about the Genestealers. (Though Amberly stopped him).

Filthy Hans
Jun 27, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 10 years!)

War and Pieces posted:

black blood Angels with blonde hair and eyebrows would be a sick look

Mechafunkzilla
Sep 11, 2006

If you want a vision of the future...
Ganguro Blood Angels, very kawaii

Dog_Meat
May 19, 2013
Necron talk

I was never a fan of the Necrons and I knew nothing about the fluff since the days of "they turn up, ruin poo poo and disappear mysteriously", so I picked up the two Twice Dead King stories and the Infinite and the Divine and powered through them over the break.

I found the TDK books a little overwhelming at first with all the dynasties and history as I've never paid any attention to their lore, but I picked it up as I went along as the series is told at a good pace and you don't need to know too much outside of the basic models (flayed ones, etc) to get the gist. I actually liked the two stories and was surprised at how human the characters were and how much dry humour there was.

But I have to admit that I'm really struggling with The Infinite and the Divine. The tonal shift to a whacky comedy between a couple of curmudgeon machines in what suddenly seems to be a very established world and culture mixed with them seeming to have near god-like powers has made it feel like I'm reading a totally different franchise. A lot of it is me coming in cold to the Necron side of the lore, but I'm not getting the same investment as I did from the TDK books. I'll stick it out, but I feel like I've missed a primer somewhere to be ready for the amount of background the necrons suddenly seem to have.

Black Griffon
Mar 12, 2005

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are. You are destiny.


lonelylikezoidberg posted:

Commissar chat: The Gaunt's Ghosts books aren't bad they're just boring.

Completely wrong, of course, GG rules. Alright, have a good one.

OPAONI
Jul 23, 2021

Dog_Meat posted:

Necron talk

I was never a fan of the Necrons and I knew nothing about the fluff since the days of "they turn up, ruin poo poo and disappear mysteriously", so I picked up the two Twice Dead King stories and the Infinite and the Divine and powered through them over the break.

I found the TDK books a little overwhelming at first with all the dynasties and history as I've never paid any attention to their lore, but I picked it up as I went along as the series is told at a good pace and you don't need to know too much outside of the basic models (flayed ones, etc) to get the gist. I actually liked the two stories and was surprised at how human the characters were and how much dry humour there was.

But I have to admit that I'm really struggling with The Infinite and the Divine. The tonal shift to a whacky comedy between a couple of curmudgeon machines in what suddenly seems to be a very established world and culture mixed with them seeming to have near god-like powers has made it feel like I'm reading a totally different franchise. A lot of it is me coming in cold to the Necron side of the lore, but I'm not getting the same investment as I did from the TDK books. I'll stick it out, but I feel like I've missed a primer somewhere to be ready for the amount of background the necrons suddenly seem to have.

Trazyn steals Titans for fun. Orikan is smart enough to keep up with him. They stave off boredom and degradation by engaging in what amount to high-stakes academic grant duels with each other.

Gravitas Shortfall
Jul 17, 2007

Utility is seven-eighths Proximity.


Black Griffon posted:

Completely wrong, of course, GG rules.

Boring is such a weird complaint too. There's plenty wrong with the GG novels (Abnett can't write an ending) but a shitload of stuff happens in them and there's a lot of tense scenes and entertaining character work.

NihilCredo
Jun 6, 2011

iram omni possibili modo preme:
plus una illa te diffamabit, quam multæ virtutes commendabunt

Dog_Meat posted:

But I have to admit that I'm really struggling with The Infinite and the Divine. The tonal shift to a whacky comedy between a couple of curmudgeon machines in what suddenly seems to be a very established world and culture mixed with them seeming to have near god-like powers has made it feel like I'm reading a totally different franchise. A lot of it is me coming in cold to the Necron side of the lore, but I'm not getting the same investment as I did from the TDK books. I'll stick it out, but I feel like I've missed a primer somewhere to be ready for the amount of background the necrons suddenly seem to have.

Nothing wrong with preferring the more grim side of a faction. The Imperial Guard has both Cain books and stuff like Fifteen Hours or Krieg books, and it's a big enough galaxy that there's room for both.

Likewise the Necrons were once a galaxy-spanning Empire, so it's totally OK if the perspectives of people like Trazyn and Orikan - who live at the top of the hierarchy of some of the strongest and richest dynasties - are very different from those of a backwater, decaying dynasty like the Ithakas.

As long as the individual characters are consistent, 40K is definitely the kind of setting where grimdark and adventure can co-exist. At a safe distance.

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/12/28/coming-to-black-library-2023-is-a-great-year-for-your-ears-as-well-as-your-eyes/

Here's a couple of audiobooks you can expect getting released next year:







A bit disappointed in the lack of AoS entries in the preview though.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Read that as “Crusaders of Porn” at first and was saddened when it turned out to be Dorn

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Cooked Auto posted:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2022/12/28/coming-to-black-library-2023-is-a-great-year-for-your-ears-as-well-as-your-eyes/

Here's a couple of audiobooks you can expect getting released next year:







A bit disappointed in the lack of AoS entries in the preview though.

i want more weird old poo poo(both old world and 40k) and maybe more non astartes stuff.

Dog_Meat
May 19, 2013

NihilCredo posted:

Nothing wrong with preferring the more grim side of a faction. The Imperial Guard has both Cain books and stuff like Fifteen Hours or Krieg books, and it's a big enough galaxy that there's room for both.


To be honest, I like the more humanised side of 40k. Eisenhorn worked best when you get the flashes of humour and humanity between the characters, and I love the Ciaphas Cain novels (when spaced out enough to feel less repetative).

I think it's more me being the old man who's knowledge of the lore was around the 2nd edition era and then came back when the HH books started. I knew the heresy, who the primarchs are, the big name champions, chaos, Eldar lore, Orks, etc so it's less of a stretch for me taking in the new lore around those factions. But the Necrons have a pretty huge back story and I'm coming in colder compared to other books. I guess this is what it must feel like to a newbie hitting 30+ years of history!

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

Dapper_Swindler posted:

i want more weird old poo poo(both old world and 40k) and maybe more non astartes stuff.

A whole quarter of a year without seeing a single Space Marine release in any shape or form would've been nices yes.
One can always dream.

euphronius posted:

Read that as “Crusaders of Porn” at first and was saddened when it turned out to be Dorn

I'm sure that exists somewhere, if you know where to look.

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

Dorn Hub
xHeretics
Only Fanatics
Red T'aube

AndyElusive fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Dec 29, 2022

bagrada
Aug 4, 2007

The Demogorgon is tired of your silly human bickering!

I'm about to finish my audiobook of Dark Imperium book 1. Should I roll straight into book 2? My alternatives are Indomitus and Devastation of Baal. I'm kind of nurgled out so could do with some Xenos but it does feel like it's going to end on a cliffhanger, or with a lot unresolved at least.

I was going to ask about changes to Dark Imperium when they pulled and rewrote it to change the year it was set in, then I found this thread:

https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/nogxam/spoilers_deep_dive_in_changes_between_old_and_new/

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord
The 2nd and 3rd dark imperium books are significant improvements over the first imho

D-Pad
Jun 28, 2006

bagrada posted:

I'm about to finish my audiobook of Dark Imperium book 1. Should I roll straight into book 2? My alternatives are Indomitus and Devastation of Baal. I'm kind of nurgled out so could do with some Xenos but it does feel like it's going to end on a cliffhanger, or with a lot unresolved at least.

I was going to ask about changes to Dark Imperium when they pulled and rewrote it to change the year it was set in, then I found this thread:

https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/nogxam/spoilers_deep_dive_in_changes_between_old_and_new/

Indomitus is really really bad. The short story that released with its limited edition version was pretty cool though and I think has since been released in an anthology? It's on an agri world and set on this gigantic thresher crop type machine. It's so big like 50 people live on it and have their entire lives as have the previous generations going back hundreds of even thousands of years. It almost never ever ever stops because it's too hard to get started again. They have a whole tribal structure with all kinds of traditions etc. They even skirmish with the clans on other similar machines sometimes. It's exactly the type of stuff I really really love in the lore and wish we saw more of. Like the Terran scribe culture in the Dawn of Fire book.

Devastation of Baal was pretty good tho.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

Improbable Lobster posted:

The 2nd and 3rd dark imperium books are significant improvements over the first imho

yeah, i listened to 3 only and it was fine.


Cooked Auto posted:

A whole quarter of a year without seeing a single Space Marine release in any shape or form would've been nices yes.
One can always dream.

I'm sure that exists somewhere, if you know where to look.

i dont mind space marine stuff, some can be great. i just get tired of loyalist poo poo thats either the smurfs(who i like) or the wolves. I love the sisters but they have like 2 good books and the rest are either ehh or boltor porn.

Chemtrailologist
Jul 8, 2007

bagrada posted:

I'm about to finish my audiobook of Dark Imperium book 1. Should I roll straight into book 2? My alternatives are Indomitus and Devastation of Baal. I'm kind of nurgled out so could do with some Xenos but it does feel like it's going to end on a cliffhanger, or with a lot unresolved at least.

I was going to ask about changes to Dark Imperium when they pulled and rewrote it to change the year it was set in, then I found this thread:

https://www.reddit.com/r/40kLore/comments/nogxam/spoilers_deep_dive_in_changes_between_old_and_new/

If you do get around to reading the other two Dark Imperium books, make sure to read The Great Work also. It runs sort of parallel to the series, mostly in between books 2 and 3. Also written by Haley, its much better than the other books.

bagrada
Aug 4, 2007

The Demogorgon is tired of your silly human bickering!

Thanks for the responses.

Chemtrailologist posted:

If you do get around to reading the other two Dark Imperium books, make sure to read The Great Work also. It runs sort of parallel to the series, mostly in between books 2 and 3. Also written by Haley, its much better than the other books.

They're all in the humble bundle of 40k audio books I got so I'll add that one to the queue as well, thanks.

habeasdorkus
Nov 3, 2013

Royalty is a continuous shitposting motion.

Dapper_Swindler posted:

I love the sisters but they have like 2 good books and the rest are either ehh or boltor porn.


What are the two good Sisters of Battle books? Always interested in reading more about them.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
Speaking of SOBs...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBuvrs_Gd18

orphean
Apr 27, 2007

beep boop bitches
my monads are fully functional

habeasdorkus posted:

What are the two good Sisters of Battle books? Always interested in reading more about them.

I’m guessing “Faith & Fire” and “Hammer & Anvil”. If you likes sisters stuff the Triumph of St Catherine and Celestine are worth reading

D-Pad
Jun 28, 2006

Mark of Faith and Requiem Infernal are the only two good SOB books. Ephrael Stern and Book of Martyrs was ok. The rest is bad unless I am forgetting something.

Black Griffon
Mar 12, 2005

Now, in the quantum moment before the closure, when all become one. One moment left. One point of space and time.

I know who you are. You are destiny.


God drat, Jonathan Keeble is truly exploring the many varieties of So Growly It Sounds Like You're Gargling Phlegm voice in Flight of the Eisenstein.

AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

Grrrrrrrrrrimaldus

Arquinsiel
Jun 1, 2006

"There is no such thing as society. There are individual men and women, and there are families. And no government can do anything except through people, and people must look to themselves first."

God Bless Margaret Thatcher
God Bless England
RIP My Iron Lady

D-Pad posted:

Mark of Faith and Requiem Infernal are the only two good SOB books. Ephrael Stern and Book of Martyrs was ok. The rest is bad unless I am forgetting something.
The recent Marvel comic wasn't terrible.

Azubah
Jun 5, 2007

Warhammer plus has a new sister show coming out, looks to be high production too. Kinda. Looks like a continuous if the new editions trailer.

Dapper_Swindler
Feb 14, 2012

Im glad my instant dislike in you has been validated again and again.

habeasdorkus posted:

What are the two good Sisters of Battle books? Always interested in reading more about them.

faith and fire is good for what it is.


D-Pad posted:

Mark of Faith and Requiem Infernal are the only two good SOB books. Ephrael Stern and Book of Martyrs was ok. The rest is bad unless I am forgetting something.

faith and fire is a fun detective type story is kinda meandering. book of martyrs is ok but i kinda wish it just had like 5 or something shorter stories instead of 3 longer ones.

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2023/01/01/sunday-preview-celebrate-the-new-year-with-arks-of-omen-battleforces-and-the-horus-heresy/

Next weekend sees a trio of books go up for preorder.

Mortis, in paperback form.


Alongside a fancy map for those wanting some extra doodads.


Wrath of the Lost, in hardback, ebook and audiobook format.


And finally Assassinorum: Kingmaker in paperback

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AndyElusive
Jan 7, 2007

Cooked Auto posted:

Next weekend sees a trio of books go up for preorder.

Mortis, in paperback form.


That's...odd. I'm currently reading Mortis in paperback atm. I guess this is for small format paperback?

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