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Discussion Quorum
Dec 5, 2002
Armchair Philistine

Soul Dentist posted:

Catalogs are arriving :ohdearsass:

That reminds me of the time I almost impulse bought a Baker Creek heirloom seed catalog as a stocking stuffer for my dad. I opened it to a random page and there was a pic of a guy holding a giant squash of some sort. I read the caption, blinked a couple times, and put it back on the shelf.

"Nevada farmer Cliven Bundy poses with his award winning..."

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Discussion Quorum
Dec 5, 2002
Armchair Philistine
God DAMMIT there would have been so many openings for a sniper joke in that one.

Soul Dentist
Mar 17, 2009

Discussion Quorum posted:

That reminds me of the time I almost impulse bought a Baker Creek heirloom seed catalog as a stocking stuffer for my dad. I opened it to a random page and there was a pic of a guy holding a giant squash of some sort. I read the caption, blinked a couple times, and put it back on the shelf.

"Nevada farmer Cliven Bundy poses with his award winning..."

Melons probably, but always good to remember gently caress Baker Creek not only for their politics but also their essentially randomized seed quality

SubG
Aug 19, 2004

It's a hard world for little things.
It was crookneck squash. Which I only remember because of their hilariously terrible response when people complained that they'd invited Bundy to be a speaker at one of their events.

Solkanar512
Dec 28, 2006

by the sex ghost
Yeah, if you want heirloom stuff Territorial, Seed Savers and Johnnys has a bunch, and there are tons more places online. I feel like Baker Creek got famous over Instagram pictures of glass gem corn and you can get that stuff from a ton of places.

That Old Ganon
Jan 2, 2012

THUNDERDOME LOSER

Discussion Quorum posted:

That reminds me of the time I almost impulse bought a Baker Creek heirloom seed catalog as a stocking stuffer for my dad.
These clowns had some nerve sending me a catalog after I bought their whack-rear end seeds.

captkirk
Feb 5, 2010

Solkanar512 posted:

Yeah, if you want heirloom stuff Territorial, Seed Savers and Johnnys has a bunch, and there are tons more places online. I feel like Baker Creek got famous over Instagram pictures of glass gem corn and you can get that stuff from a ton of places.

Famous off of over saturated photos of corn.

Fozzy The Bear
Dec 11, 1999

Nothing much, watching the game, drinking a bud
If you are on the west coast, we have the wonderful Peace Seedlings! I'm sure the seeds are good all over, but he's been growing them in Oregon for decades.
http://peaceseedlingsseeds.blogspot.com/

Run by a old hippy, who started his PhD at like age 16.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jp8yg8xM0BQ

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

hail cgatan


I started a compost bin on my balcony last month, the perfect time for it to freeze. Seems to be working though as the center is warm even though the outside is frosty/crispy

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

hail cgatan


Double post it's cold as balls and there was a big ice storm but a gallon of hot sink water is enough to keep my cold frame above freezing all night long. Long live insulation

Chad Sexington
May 26, 2005

I think he made a beautiful post and did a great job and he is good.

Nosre posted:

What ratio do you use for that? ^

4:1 water to hydrogen peroxide if you're using the stuff in your first aid kit. I have a big bottle of more concentrated stuff that needs higher dilution, so it depends.

Genderfluent
Jul 15, 2015

PokeJoe posted:

Double post it's cold as balls and there was a big ice storm but a gallon of hot sink water is enough to keep my cold frame above freezing all night long. Long live insulation



can you post more details on this cold frame? I'm looking to build something similar just for starting some plants earlier, etc.

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

hail cgatan


Sure I designed and built it myself. Here's a summary for you.

It's made of cedar 1"x2"s except for the corners posts which are 2"x2". They were untreated but I put deck stain on it when I finished.

It's 4 feet wide and maybe 2.5 feet deep? The top is 4 feet high in the back and 3 feet in the front to give it a slope for water runoff. The window material is correlated plastic, like a plastic cardboard type stuff. I cut slots for them to sit in. Slats are spaced pretty far to encourage airflow and let more light get down to the lower shelf.











Just some basic outdoor hinges and hooks keep it shut. I put some window stays on the lid so I can hold it open at various heights. Let me know if you have any more specific questions.

Hexigrammus
May 22, 2006

Cheech Wizard stories are clean, wholesome, reflective truths that go great with the marijuana munchies and a blow job.
Just got a newsletter from Linda Gilkeson. She says the seed companies are already very busy, something about $8/head lettuce spurring a Covid-like spike in gardening interest. She advises to get your seed orders in soon.

She lists a mail order source for Galleon overwintering cauliflower, something I haven't been able to find for the last couple of years. If I can get my hands on any I will definitely be saving its seeds this year.

Now if I can just find Winter Density lettuce this year. I'm surprised though how many of the random lettuce varieties I planted in the early fall have made it through the -8oC cold snap with just thick mulch around them.

Soul Dentist
Mar 17, 2009
My parsley from this summer is still chugging along and growing lmao

drk
Jan 16, 2005
Parsley is a biennial in temperate climates (in the US: the south and most of the west coast)

Its robust as hell where I live, we even got some frost recently and it didnt seem to care

Soul Dentist
Mar 17, 2009
It was negative six this week and it's the only green thing left lol

Obsoletely Fabulous
May 6, 2008

Who are you, and why should I care?

Hexigrammus posted:

Just got a newsletter from Linda Gilkeson. She says the seed companies are already very busy, something about $8/head lettuce spurring a Covid-like spike in gardening interest. She advises to get your seed orders in soon.

We ordered ours like a day after migardener opened up for 2023 sales and some were sold out already. I’m not sure if it was things that never restocked or if they actually sold out but the list of sold out seeds keeps growing.

Corla Plankun
May 8, 2007

improve the lives of everyone
I bought some Rue on a lark last year because I liked the way it smelled. Didn't know a thing about it. My city just had a really, really hard freeze and I was astonished to see it looking better than ever in the backyard today.

drk
Jan 16, 2005
Winter cover crop!

I live somewhere with no snow and only light frosts and never really did much during the winter in previous years despite it being our rainy season. This was a mistake.

This patch of soil was pretty busted and didnt do well in our hot/dry summer. Apparently just needed some legume love (pictured: vetches, peas, fava beans, oats and a volunteer sunflower because why not).

Machai
Feb 21, 2013

Corla Plankun posted:

I bought some Rue on a lark last year because I liked the way it smelled. Didn't know a thing about it. My city just had a really, really hard freeze and I was astonished to see it looking better than ever in the backyard today.

So you're saying you didn't rue the day you bought it?

Chard
Aug 24, 2010




i swear this will be the year i do peppers properly

Soul Dentist
Mar 17, 2009


Oh boy

sexy tiger boobs
Aug 23, 2002

Up shit creek with a turd for a paddle.

One of my sugar rush hot peach plants did really well last year, the other grew well but made no peppers... really tasty though.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


Soul Dentist posted:

Catalogs are arriving :ohdearsass:

Or, as we call it in this household, tomato porn.

Soul Dentist
Mar 17, 2009
Uh also now:



drk
Jan 16, 2005
Don't be a moron like me and plant a single tomatillo. They aren't self fertile like tomatoes. Grew a huge beautiful plant this summer and got zero edible fruits.

Soul Dentist
Mar 17, 2009
Don't worry I got two planned, but my stupid mistake will be trying to trellis them up the back of a small garden bed until they're so messy and flopped over I can't stand it anymore

captkirk
Feb 5, 2010

drk posted:

Don't be a moron like me and plant a single tomatillo. They aren't self fertile like tomatoes. Grew a huge beautiful plant this summer and got zero edible fruits.

I just texted my mom to let her know why she didn't get any tomatillos this year.

Corla Plankun
May 8, 2007

improve the lives of everyone

drk posted:

Don't be a moron like me and plant a single tomatillo. They aren't self fertile like tomatoes. Grew a huge beautiful plant this summer and got zero edible fruits.

Only one of mine made it to maturity 😭

This year I'm going to plant 4x as many so of course they're all going to make it and I'll have no room for anything else.

Joburg
May 19, 2013


Fun Shoe
This past summer I planted about 8. I pretended they were little trees and spaced them around the border of the yard. Hopefully I’ll have a naturalized tomatillo border for years to come :3:

Chad Sexington
May 26, 2005

I think he made a beautiful post and did a great job and he is good.
I got tomatillo fruit from stray plants that found their way in my tomato bed. Was wild to see it crop up in a jungle of tomatoes unplanned.

That's what happens when I get lazy in late summer and fruit hits the soil. Surprises for next year.

Jhet
Jun 3, 2013
I… uhhh… got really lazy and didn’t clean up the last round of tomatillos until it was way past. I expect a jungle, but it won’t sprout until June because at this point who knows what sort of spring it’s going to be.

Jan
Feb 27, 2008

The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.
I'm working from limited apartment balcony space, with about 10 pots, though I usually limit myself to 7 because otherwise it gets too crowded to get around. So I have a couple of spare pots just lying around with old soil, and one year I noticed a bunch of sprouts in one unused pots that looked familiar, so I decided to let them grow. It turned out to be shiso, you can see it in the round pot at the bottom right of this photo:



Dear reader, I only ever planted shiso in the square planter. The round one was unused, at least a metre away, before it started sprouting shiso volunteers the next season. I only put them together once it turned out they were both shiso. :iiam:

Anyhow, I'm planning my seeds again for the season and with limited space, I'm trying to optimize my selection to things that I can't get anywhere else. I've recently had a newfound appreciation for edible flowers, specifically nasturtium. Nasturtium seems actually very appropriate for my overhanging coco planters in which I've tried and failed to get strawberries to stick. Nasturtium seems better suited for the rough, full sunlight, low hydration conditions that the planters lead to, and I'm thinking to just do a full plant of different nasturtiums in the planters. But I'd love to introduce a bit of variety while still being edible, if anything else can survive those hellish conditions while still producing a couple of blossoms. I'm thinking maybe some pansies or violas?

Hexigrammus
May 22, 2006

Cheech Wizard stories are clean, wholesome, reflective truths that go great with the marijuana munchies and a blow job.
Thanks for the heads up. I only planted Shiso once last year but I'll keep an eye out for volunteers now.

Apparently this is the only way I can grow Pak Choi as well - put it in a far corner in the spring, ignore it when it bolts shortly after, then harvest baby Pak Choi volunteers in the winter. I'll have to try this with Gai Lan.

Between the brassicas and tomatillos my garden is slowly being taken over by volunteers. At some point I'm going to stop planting and just let them fight.

Jan
Feb 27, 2008

The disruptive powers of excessive national fecundity may have played a greater part in bursting the bonds of convention than either the power of ideas or the errors of autocracy.

Hexigrammus posted:

Thanks for the heads up. I only planted Shiso once last year but I'll keep an eye out for volunteers now.

I think shiso was banned in some municipalities on the account of being an invasive weed? I didn't really get it until this pot leaping episode--I'm gaslighting myself now as to whether I moved the pots close at some point, or maybe shuffled some soil around, but I honestly can't remember doing either. All I know is I rip out sprouts from my actual starts, which may have been shiso, but I didn't do it for that abandoned pot. And sure enough, shiso.

I gotta find a way to use up unused shiso this year, I tried making a jelly using mint jelly recipes, but the taste got lost pretty easily despite trying to keep a lower plant / water+sugar ratio than mint.

Jan fucked around with this message at 08:05 on Jan 2, 2023

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

hail cgatan


Anyone grow greens indoors? Probably gonna give it a try with some lettuce and spinach in the extra space on my grow shelf

Soul Dentist
Mar 17, 2009

Jan posted:

But I'd love to introduce a bit of variety while still being edible, if anything else can survive those hellish conditions while still producing a couple of blossoms. I'm thinking maybe some pansies or violas?

Marigolds and borage are my favorite full sun edible flowers, although garlic chives produce beautiful (extremely edible) white flowers are the end of the season also. If you get marigolds don't get any double bloom just because they aren't bred for eating and the texture is gross. I grew "tangerine gem" last year and they were tasty.

Obsoletely Fabulous
May 6, 2008

Who are you, and why should I care?

PokeJoe posted:

Anyone grow greens indoors? Probably gonna give it a try with some lettuce and spinach in the extra space on my grow shelf

I have a spare fish tank I am going to setup a lettuce raft in. Looks to be pretty easy to do. Just have to grab the net pots and foam for the raft.

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Solkanar512
Dec 28, 2006

by the sex ghost

Genderfluent posted:

can you post more details on this cold frame? I'm looking to build something similar just for starting some plants earlier, etc.

If you have access to power, you can build a hot bed, which is just a flatter version of this with some sand in the bottom and a soil heating cable in that sand. I have one, and I end up sprouting tomatoes and peppers in February and they’re easily two feet tall by the time they’re ready to plant outdoors.

It’s an awesome gardening cheat code.

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