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FrostyPox posted:I wish I had gotten Virtual On and the Twinstick controller for my Dreamcast It wanted to be FF:Monster Hunter but instead it became, "exploit this specific monster so you can do everything quickly."
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Monster Hunter is boring and tedious as poo poo, so FFXV's combat is an excellent fit for a MonHun competitor
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jokes posted:Monster Hunter is boring and tedious as poo poo, so FFXV's combat is an excellent fit for a MonHun competitor the gently caress is this poo poo
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:The strategies I read about beating the summon boss gauntlet in FFVIIR is to spam firaga/thundaga while standing in an Arcane Ward but I just run out of MP which makes Bahamut impossible. I’m pretty convinced that fight is impossible anyway. The one guide said to use ATB assist and use a lot of abilities with Tifa to boost the other two characters’ ATB so they can keep casting but it sure doesn’t seeem to do anything! Does it only trigger when you use the commands from the menu? Do L1 shortcuts not count? L1 shortcuts count, you have to pop off the two commands in quick succession though and doing a normal attack in between them will mean it doesn't work. Bahamut is nasty, I ended up using Cloud's punisher mode / counterstance a lot when he went on the offensive
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:The strategies I read about beating the summon boss gauntlet in FFVIIR is to spam firaga/thundaga while standing in an Arcane Ward but I just run out of MP which makes Bahamut impossible. I’m pretty convinced that fight is impossible anyway. The one guide said to use ATB assist and use a lot of abilities with Tifa to boost the other two characters’ ATB so they can keep casting but it sure doesn’t seeem to do anything! Does it only trigger when you use the commands from the menu? Do L1 shortcuts not count? Regarding ATB Assist, I think it has to be direct back to back, with no delays. I find the easiest way is to queue up the second skill while using the first. Using the shortcuts, I imagine you'd have to basically be spamming it or something (unless the shortcuts can also queue abilities; I don't use them so I don't know); you can't have any delay to speak of between uses. With Tifa, a good option is spamming Focused Strike, since it seems to build back her own ATB such that you can spam it over and over again. I've noticed that most guides seem to just omit information about the boss's attacks, outside of the particularly exceptional ones. I'll look up a strategy and it almost always falls apart instantly as my characters start getting owned. The strategy will just assume that you're able to flawlessly execute a sequence of commands at the beginning of the fight.
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jokes posted:Monster Hunter is boring and tedious as poo poo, so FFXV's combat is an excellent fit for a MonHun competitor ![]()
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I have never played Monster Hunter
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It has, and I’m not joking or exaggerating, the best video game combat of all time.
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Meh
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I managed to beat Pride & Joy gauntlet using a strategy that stunlocked every boss so that they could basically do nothing the whole time. Cheesy but whatever, trophy get!
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I've tried three different Monster Hunters and they never seemed to progress beyond anything grander than 'spawn into a map and chase down a giant chicken for 20 minutes whilst it periodically runs away from you'
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I mean, that is the game yes. That’s kind of its fundamental gameplay loop.
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NieR Occomata posted:I mean, that is the game yes. That’s kind of its fundamental gameplay loop. It's boring
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NieR Occomata posted:the gently caress is this poo poo the truth also loving lmao at the idea of Monster Hunter having better combat then DMC 3-5, Souls, Sekiro, or any of the other actual top notch action games. FF7R has better combat then Monster Hunter.
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Monster Hunter plays a lot like FFXV if you only used super low-level great swords against the hardest bosses in the game
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I mean, if it doesn’t hit you it doesn’t hit you. But to me the appeal of MH is that it’s kind of the closest thing video games have to learning an instrument; you play it for no real other reason than to get better at it, and the depth of its combat systems allow for that level of a sense of accomplishment by mastering its systems. Like, I’ve been playing a single weapon since it was introduced (in monster hunter 4u), so three generations and something like I dunno, a thousand plus hours. I feel like at this point I’m “pretty okay to good” with that weapon. One weapon. Of fourteen. Like, could you bring me on a hunt and I wouldn’t embarrass myself with charge blade? Yeah, but I wouldn’t say I’ve mastered it, I’m still kind of poo poo at guard points and I still have some fundamental mechanics I need to work on. Like, that’s what separates out MH from literally any other game that isn’t a fighting game (which mh gets compared to but I don’t play); it’s a game series where the depth and design of its combat is just so expansive it has the ability to be studied and played for thousands and thousands of hours with new depth emerging as you go. And even with fighting games it becomes less about execution than prediction because you’re playing against another human; MH is all about developing mechanics.
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jokes posted:Monster Hunter is boring and tedious as poo poo, so FFXV's combat is an excellent fit for a MonHun competitor ![]()
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No Dignity posted:I've tried three different Monster Hunters and they never seemed to progress beyond anything grander than 'spawn into a map and chase down a giant chicken for 20 minutes whilst it periodically runs away from you' All the people who enjoy Monster Hunter keep talking about these different monsters, various types of dragons, big gorillas, dinosaurs etc. I think these are all people who make it through the tailing mission part of the early game though.
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They’ve pretty much removed the tailing mission sections of MH, fwiw.
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Summoning Lavos so I can hopefully watch it destroy everyone posting in this argument
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Your Momster Hunter
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jokes posted:Monster Hunter is boring and tedious as poo poo, so FFXV's combat is an excellent fit for a MonHun competitor Nice troll
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jokes posted:Monster Hunter is boring and tedious as poo poo, so FFXV's combat is an excellent fit for a MonHun competitor No. RevolverDivider posted:
Early Dark Souls and Early MonHun stack up pretty well gameplay wise. Most of the souls game combat is....not good. It's there, it functions, but it's essentially the same level of boring as early entries in MonHun where your moveset is extremely limited and it's mostly just waiting for the times you can safely hit (Because holy poo poo DS1 boss design after like...the first fourth of it shits the bed) and the rewards for being very aggro aren't that much better than just waiting for the safe hits. It took them a few games to give you things to do in combat that meant anything and until Elden Ring to...let you do any of them without hyper specializations making so you can only really do that one thing. The things where it shines, the prep work for buffs and weapon picks and enhancements directly exists in Mon Hun and they focus on that way better than DS1-3 do. The combat in Dark souls was never really its strength compared to the exploration and dungeoneering aspects. To call either of them Top Notch Action GAmes in the same breath as the DMC's of the world is...insane. It's an entirely different genre of game from those. But also there's fun boss fights in early mon hun and like maybe 5 enjoyable fights between all the bosses in DS1 and 2. ZenMasterBullshit fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Jan 1, 2023 |
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nrook posted:Summoning Lavos so I can hopefully watch it destroy everyone posting in this argument Personally hand delivering the black materia to Sephiroth.
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I am skipping Comrades and moving on to FFXIII-2
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FrostyPox posted:I am skipping Comrades and moving on to FFXIII-2 Moving on to the best game as rapidly as possible. Wise choice. What will you be playing it on?
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FrostyPox posted:I am skipping Comrades and moving on to FFXIII-2 If you're playing on pc there are a few QoL mods you need to install Before You Start (because it will delete your save.)
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Monster Hunter is so sweet
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Double-posting to ensure FrostyPox sees this: for FFXIII-2, you should install the following, before you start playing. Cut DLC Content Restoration Patch - This is important because it has the only non-idiotic outfit for Noel. It's also got some other neat things. Leviathan's Tears - Fixes the broken rain effect that otherwise looks ugly as poo poo and makes rainy areas really hard to navigate (Seriously, it's actually broken, it looks totally different on PS3.) FFXIII Fix - this works for FFXIII-2 as well, and helps improve performance, especially at higher resolutions.
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NikkolasKing posted:Moving on to the best game as rapidly as possible. Wise choice. PC Agents are GO! posted:Double-posting to ensure FrostyPox sees this: Done, but I had zero issues running FFXIII on PC
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I am looking forward to XIII-2 (and LR) because in case it isn't obvious, I absolutely love FNC.
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FrostyPox posted:PC FFXIII runs fine, it's XIII-2 which will freeze or crash pretty regularly. The port is a complete disaster. If you have any issues lemme know. There's a few more programs to try and help this if you need them.
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NieR Occomata posted:But to me the appeal of MH is that it’s kind of the closest thing video games have to learning an instrument; you should play fighting games
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FF13-2 has monster fashion and Chronobind and so I must admit, however reluctantly, that it is good.
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https://www.gematsu.com/2022/12/yoshinori-kitase-teases-big-final-fantasy-announcement-for-2023 More FF
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Sakurazuka posted:https://www.gematsu.com/2022/12/yoshinori-kitase-teases-big-final-fantasy-announcement-for-2023 Surprise twist: They're ending the series.
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a pox on them and their teasers for teasers. be specific or begone
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Kheldarn posted:Surprise twist: They're ending the series. The Final Fantasy
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Sakurazuka posted:https://www.gematsu.com/2022/12/yoshinori-kitase-teases-big-final-fantasy-announcement-for-2023 Yoshi-P has been forced out due to mental health and they're annoucing the septilogy of FFXVII, all directed by Nomura
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# ? Jun 10, 2024 23:36 |
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An FF NFT game.
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