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King Hong Kong posted:It always killed me that there was an airport in town that had a borderline business case for a route that would have reduced total travel time to like 2.5 hours.  While trains are nice, how much is it going to help in the US if you still need a car to get around your destination? If you have to add in the cost and time of renting a car on the other end, it could make many train trips not worthwhile. I've taken some train trips around Italy and even then outside of bigger cities it was pretty borderline. e: typo mobby_6kl fucked around with this message at 14:18 on Jan 12, 2023 |
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Partition the US into 200 vaguely connected petty baronies, duchies, kingdoms, etc. each with their own strict borders so no can drive for more than an hour without crossing at least three borders and paying tolls then make trains their own fief owned directly by the emperor and thus exempt from tolls. This will ensure the return of trains as the dominant method of transportation and make the map a lot more interesting to look at
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mobby_6kl posted:Just get you own airplane
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FreudianSlippers posted:Partition the US into 200 vaguely connected petty baronies, duchies, kingdoms, etc. each with their own strict borders so no can drive for more than an hour without crossing at least three borders and paying tolls then make trains their own fief owned directly by the emperor and thus exempt from tolls. Also make every billionaire a sovereign entity under the emperor, to get full HRE vibes.
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Jan 12, 2023 15:10
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FreudianSlippers posted:Partition the US into 200 vaguely connected petty baronies, duchies, kingdoms, etc. each with their own strict borders so no can drive for more than an hour without crossing at least three borders and paying tolls then make trains their own fief owned directly by the emperor and thus exempt from tolls. It's been tried. Perhaps more rectangles would have helped.  (this particular map chosen because lmao mormons)
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:It's been tried. Perhaps more rectangles would have helped. I applaud them on their patriotic color scheme, but too many previous maps have trained my eye and at first I thought large swathes of the country simply didn't have people of any age.
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Jan 12, 2023 15:29
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Happy 2004!
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:It's been tried. Perhaps more rectangles would have helped. Also, is there a university at the base of the Keeweenaw peninsula, and just all the profs live in the county at either end?
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Albino Squirrel posted:LOL the Villages. Two unis in the middle in Houghton and Hancock. You can explain it with the same population dynamics as everywhere else, though, no need to invoke the universities. Cities are disproportionately young. 
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Albino Squirrel posted:LOL the Villages. The whole peninsula has a population of around 40,000 and there's a college in the middle with 7,000 students. The rest of the area is essentially rural logging since copper mining dried up. So unironically, yes.
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Youremother posted:Happy 2004! 
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Yeah but now those maps have to make an exclave for Georgia.
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Usually New Mexico and Colorado also stand out, and I think Arizona has been sliding towards the dems (and the republicans seem to have been doing their best to push it that way). Dumbfuckistan is 2004.
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SlothfulCobra posted:Usually New Mexico and Colorado also stand out, and I think Arizona has been sliding towards the dems (and the republicans seem to have been doing their best to push it that way).
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SlothfulCobra posted:Usually New Mexico and Colorado also stand out, and I think Arizona has been sliding towards the dems (and the republicans seem to have been doing their best to push it that way). its funny because blackwell 100% cooked ohios election that year
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State level politics are dumb. Stuff like urban/rural divides, difference in income and education and voter suppression are much more relevant. As per every dumb blue cities/red country map that comes up every election (with different colours for different countries).
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BonHair posted:State level politics are dumb. Stuff like urban/rural divides, difference in income and education and voter suppression are much more relevant. As per every dumb blue cities/red country map that comes up every election (with different colours for different countries). Yeah that's also true. The "red state blue state" thing is dumb and leads to a lot of 'jokes' that lead to a lot of people with racist beliefs about "people from [state]". I mean even beyond stereotyping people is dumb, and especially especially for stereotypes that are based on the difference between like 40% and 60% of the population voting for a certain thing. Even if you go to rural Kentucky or whatever you'll still find like 30% of people are not chuds. I always used to say I was from the south (I am technically, but have lived now in Europe most of my life) and I could always just immediately write off anyone I met as a party who was like "hurr the south, u like guns and bibles" as an idiot. e: It happens a lot less now, I don't know if because I'm no longer a teenager/20s something, or if people are just less likely to say racist stereotype bullshit as compared to 20 years ago. Saladman fucked around with this message at 11:54 on Jan 13, 2023 |
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Saladman posted:Yeah that's also true. The "red state blue state" thing is dumb and leads to a lot of 'jokes' that lead to a lot of people with racist beliefs about "people from [state]". I mean even beyond stereotyping people is dumb, and especially especially for stereotypes that are based on the difference between like 40% and 60% of the population voting for a certain thing. Even if you go to rural Kentucky or whatever you'll still find like 30% of people are not chuds. I always used to say I was from the south (I am technically, but have lived now in Europe most of my life) and I could always just immediately write off anyone I met as a party who was like "hurr the south, u like guns and bibles" as an idiot not worth talking to, exactly like the people who say "ur asian, u must kung fu lolll". "Indiana is the south" No, imagined friend, it's just equal opportunity bullshit. The midwest can be racist too. Or it's all the south. Orange County is the south. Portland is the south, in fact probably more southern than the actual southern US. Québec is the most southernly place on the north american continent.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Québec is the most southernly place on the north american continent. The Québecois are more French than the French, to the point where they insist on even using French on their stop signs (whilst the rest of the Francophonie are fine with English). I imagine there are boomers who angrily shout on Facebook "POURQUOI DOIS-JE APPUYER UN POUR FRANCAIS?" TinTower fucked around with this message at 20:25 on Jan 12, 2023 |
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:"Indiana is the south" You ever been to Southern Indiana? Your overall point is well-taken, but Southern Indiana is pretty drat "Southern" in the traditional American regional sense. Hell, Indiana had the largest chapter of the Second KKK of any state in the country at the time. Southern Illinois was much the same. Cairo is/was culturally much close to the Deep South than to Chicago.
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In the parallel universe where south-at-top maps are the norm, political cartoonists always have the easy option of showing Cuba as an arm holding something up on a silver platter. (Not entirely sure what that something would be, but that's probably one of the reasons I'm not a political cartoonist.)
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Always appreciate how whale shaped the upside down US is
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Judgy Fucker posted:You ever been to Southern Indiana? My dad grew up in Muncie and he used to call it "the world's only above-ground hole".
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TinTower posted:The Québecois are more French than the French, to the point where they insist on even using French on their stop signs (whilst the rest of the Francophonie are fine with English). I imagine there are boomers who angrily shout on Facebook "POURQUOI DOIS-JE APPUYER UN POUR FRANCAIS?" His name is Jean-Charles Pierre-Jean Adam Benjamin-Francois de la Chaudière, pronounced "tabarnak," and he does not appreciate your mockery.
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I've always admired the Québécois for successfully safeguarding their language and culture amidst a sea of Anglos, and I can't really fault them for the measures they've taken. Moreover, I can definitely see some historical parallels with Flanders, not just in terms of gradual linguistic emancipation but also as regards the whole Quiet Revolution more generally, in the way that it drastically transformed and secularized Québec's society. Within the same time frame, a similar evolution happened in Flanders to end the age-old domination of the Catholic Church. You could even compare Brussels to Montreal, although the former is far more Frenchified than the latter is Anglified, and Brussels isn't a part of Flanders politically. Okay, so the comparison isn't perfect.
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Powered Descent posted:In the parallel universe where south-at-top maps are the norm, political cartoonists always have the easy option of showing Cuba as an arm holding something up on a silver platter. (Not entirely sure what that something would be, but that's probably one of the reasons I'm not a political cartoonist.) DEBT
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TinTower posted:The Québecois are more French than the French, to the point where they insist on even using French on their stop signs (whilst the rest of the Francophonie are fine with English). I imagine there are boomers who angrily shout on Facebook "POURQUOI DOIS-JE APPUYER UN POUR FRANCAIS?" wait french stop signs are in english? Why?
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:wait french stop signs are in english? Why? Because all stop signs in the EU are in English.
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:wait french stop signs are in english? Why? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vienna_Convention_on_Road_Signs_and_Signals
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Then there's the special case of Dutch (and possibly other Germanic languages) where stop (the imperative form of the verb stoppen) is already a perfectly acceptable word, so the signs can be said to be in both English and the local language.
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:wait french stop signs are in english? Why? same reason everyone washes their hair with le shampooing
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I actually took a map of that from a Half as Interesting video a while back. English really lucked out at ending up as the default lingua franca of the modern world, since so many current international standards were developed after World War 2 during the height of American world influence. Road signs, language of air traffic, and then America also wound up being the place where most modern programming languages were born, so English is the default language of most computer science around the world. Phlegmish posted:I've always admired the Québécois for successfully safeguarding their language and culture amidst a sea of Anglos, and I can't really fault them for the measures they've taken. Moreover, I can definitely see some historical parallels with Flanders, not just in terms of gradual linguistic emancipation but also as regards the whole Quiet Revolution more generally, in the way that it drastically transformed and secularized Québec's society. Within the same time frame, a similar evolution happened in Flanders to end the age-old domination of the Catholic Church. I've heard that there's a lot of weird political issues that get formed out of the friction over that, and Quebec ending up with disproportional power within the Canadian political system relative to its population, but I don't really pay enough attention to Canadian politics to know the nuances. There's also some allegations about their hostility towards English making them doubly hostile towards foreigners. There was some kind of trouble at one point over Quebec trying to assert french language aviation over its airspace at some point as well.
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SlothfulCobra posted:I've heard that there's a lot of weird political issues that get formed out of the friction over that, and Quebec ending up with disproportional power within the Canadian political system relative to its population, but I don't really pay enough attention to Canadian politics to know the nuances. There's also some allegations about their hostility towards English making them doubly hostile towards foreigners. Well, there was that infamous quote by Jacques Parizeau after the failed 1995 independence referendum, where he blamed the sovereigntists' defeat on "money and the ethnic vote". Overall, though, I don't think it's fair to make the Québécois out to be xenophobes or anything like that, it's a simple matter of self-preservation. The reason that Anglo-Canadians haven't taken similar measures isn't that they're paragons of tolerance, it's that there is no conceivable threat to the position of English, which is crushingly sociologically dominant across North America.
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Stop signs in France being in English predate the Vienna Convention, so it’s probably “we copied the Yanks/Brits when we started importing cars on a mass scale to need signage”. Which is why the OQLF are fine with stop signs saying either STOP or ARRÊT, which says something given how infamously strict they are about anglicisms. Phlegmish posted:Well, there was that infamous quote by Jacques Parizeau after the failed 1995 independence referendum, where he blamed the sovereigntists' defeat on "money and the ethnic vote". Overall, though, I don't think it's fair to make the Québécois out to be xenophobes or anything like that, it's a simple matter of self-preservation. There’s also the whole “civic nationalism is still nationalism” thing other autonomy/independence movements in developed nations have problems with from time to time. For example, a massive argument in Scottish independence discourse is what constitutes a Scot: is it someone who was born in Scotland or someone who makes their home in Scotland? Of course, the people who stick to the former definition are also the types who complain the most about Scotland being a colony on the level of the Belgian Congo. And recently, rather strangely, also the ones who want the Tories to take a hammer to Scottish democracy because trans people give them the ick. TinTower fucked around with this message at 02:07 on Jan 13, 2023 |
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Phlegmish posted:Well, there was that infamous quote by Jacques Parizeau after the failed 1995 independence referendum, where he blamed the sovereigntists' defeat on "money and the ethnic vote". Overall, though, I don't think it's fair to make the Québécois out to be xenophobes or anything like that, it's a simple matter of self-preservation. The reason that Anglo-Canadians haven't taken similar measures isn't that they're paragons of tolerance, it's that there is no conceivable threat to the position of English, which is crushingly sociologically dominant across North America.  Once upon a time the whole drat place was anglophone by force of arms. Today it's aggressively both, and all you have to do is the polite bonjour-hello. Nobody will get angry at not speaking french.
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The French are just southern Danes if you think about it. (Can't count, slur their words, day drunk racists who go around on bikes, deathgrip on vestiges of colonial power)
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