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I got started during the Reze arc, just before she snapped the assassin's neck. I basically stumbled into the roller coaster right as it was about to go off the cliff.
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Jan 13, 2023 08:04
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Oxxidation posted:wouldn't be surprised if he just grabbed an obscure directory from somewhere and ran down the list Except for the one name he deliberately chose to hide in the middle of the list, of course. (I know you know; just bringing it up for the new first time readers who may have missed it at first like I did)
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Jan 13, 2023 17:03
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usenet celeb 1992 posted:Except for the one name he deliberately chose to hide in the middle of the list, of course. i'm that tell me also i am now caught up
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Jan 13, 2023 17:35
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kidcoelacanth posted:i'm that tell me Aki is on the list
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Jan 13, 2023 19:35
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aha, i was looking for him in there but not hard enough apparently
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Jan 13, 2023 19:46
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chiasaur11 posted:Denji's a fool, but he has good instincts. I figure he'd think something was odd, even if it doesn't work. He didnt notice the eternity devil getting exploded by an aquarium spear because he was looking at a penguin
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Jan 13, 2023 20:30
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Hace posted:He didnt notice the eternity devil getting exploded by an aquarium spear because he was looking at a penguin I mean, who can blame him? It was a very good penguin!
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Jan 13, 2023 20:31
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https://twitter.com/Heartbreak_Juan/status/1613313999646642181?s=20&t=hA39cD_6A9OIFSUQkvL9gw
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Jan 13, 2023 21:21
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chiasaur11 posted:I got started during the Reze arc, just before she snapped the assassin's neck. I saw a dump thread where quanxi was choppin off all those dudes heads and i was like "oh what sick"
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Jan 14, 2023 01:08
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Terper posted:Dope you should read Look Back and Goodbye Eri now God I love Look Back
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Jan 14, 2023 01:20
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Steve Yun posted:
Some are people he knows; colleagues and so on. The rest I imagine were grabbed at random.
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Jan 14, 2023 05:11
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Is Makima able to drink so much because she can transfer all the alcohol poisoning to other Japanese citizens
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Jan 14, 2023 05:32
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The anime has to keep that list of names scrolling for half of the episode or it won't be the same
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Jan 14, 2023 05:33
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Steve Yun posted:Is Makima able to drink so much because she can transfer all the alcohol poisoning to other Japanese citizens Probably, yes. We see with Power that fiends can still get drunk.
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Jan 14, 2023 06:35
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 Oh my god Did he really design Aki with a top knot Go 1700 pages with this character design So that he could make this visual pun where the topknot gets replaced by a gun hammer
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Jan 14, 2023 11:44
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 Why would “winner” make him think of Aki? Was “winner” a word that sounded like “Aki” in Japanese?
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Jan 14, 2023 12:03
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Steve Yun posted:
Aki's named "Aki" because of the AK-47. Fujimoto didn't plan everything from the jump, but he put in some effort for the setup.
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Jan 14, 2023 12:11
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chiasaur11 posted:Aki's named "Aki" because of the AK-47. 
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Jan 14, 2023 12:21
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I decided to check out chapter 47, and while it does feature Aki as a character, I can’t really make an Aki-47 joke or fake theory around it. So we’re stuck with Aki 47. Well 4 in japanese can be pronounced as shi which sounds just like the word for death, and Aki dies. 7 is pronounced nana and Aki tends to eat healthy so he clearly makes sure to get his potassium via banana. Aki comes back as the monkey devil??? Ape reinKarnation death banana!
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Jan 14, 2023 13:13
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Steve Yun posted:
I think the reaction is more because he is a winner. He always wins. Look how much he's won! He's winning so much. 
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Jan 14, 2023 15:09
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What if the anime manages to last so that Aki turns into the Gun Fiend in episode 47. Or maybe the snowball fight ends in 47
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Jan 14, 2023 15:48
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Nuebot posted:I think the reaction is more because he is a winner. He always wins. Look how much he's won! He's winning so much. That sequence is one of the most powerful parts of the manga to me. I think chainsaw man really excels at that Evangelion-esque combination of apocalyptic imagery mixed with psychologically charged but mundane life. Like, the struggle of just wanting to be part of a happy family but having an overwhelming amount of trauma in his life.
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Jan 14, 2023 16:34
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The Gun Fiend arc is so good and is my favorite fight in shonen.
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Jan 14, 2023 16:48
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Electric Phantasm posted:The Gun Fiend arc is so good and is my favorite fight in shonen. It’s one of the most amazing, emotionally charged fights I’ve ever seen and I am legit not prepared for it to be animated
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Jan 14, 2023 16:58
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chiasaur11 posted:Aki's named "Aki" because of the AK-47. My question is was Makima being the demiurge and Power's name as a reference the thrones of angels setup from the very start? That was the coolest moment for me, when her name just changed from me being like "Oh it's just there because it's cool, she's a power hungry devil" to 
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Eimi posted:My question is was Makima being the demiurge and Power's name as a reference the thrones of angels setup from the very start? That was the coolest moment for me, when her name just changed from me being like "Oh it's just there because it's cool, she's a power hungry devil" to I think if you compare some of the plot beats of CSM to Fire Punch, they're similar enough that I assume Fujimoto had them planned out in advance. The one that comes to mind is the fact that the Gun Devil is not actually a wildcard threat, and has been tamed by the world superpowers for a long time. Also the idea of Chainsaw Man being a hero of destruction who can bring about the Absolute destruction of a thing, down to its very idea. Those are plot elements that have kind of very clear parallels in Fire Punch, so I assume that Fujimoto went into the project wanting to explore them further. And since those are such late-game plot points, I assume things like Makima being a Miltonic figure and her tamed devils being named after the hierarchy of angels was also planned out. Could just be a rad decision he made halfway into the story, though!
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Jan 14, 2023 17:15
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I really need to reread part 1, I apparently don't remember a bunch of stuff after Reze. I wonder if that is when I caught up and started week to week or something.
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Jan 14, 2023 18:35
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Fun fact, the "AR" in "AR-15" doesn't stand for "Assault Rifle", it stands for "Aki Rifle"
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Jan 14, 2023 18:57
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Bread Set Jettison posted:It’s one of the most amazing, emotionally charged fights I’ve ever seen and I am legit not prepared for it to be animated  It just hurt
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Scholtz posted:Fun fact, the "AR" in "AR-15" doesn't stand for "Assault Rifle", it stands for "Aki Rifle" 😄
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Jan 14, 2023 21:43
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Man, the writings so good Denji is going hog wild on food through the whole series because he’s been starving his whole life. Food will make him happy. Food is the answer to his problems. Until it reminds him of his trauma with Aki
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Jan 14, 2023 21:51
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Shinjobi posted:
Yeah same. It hurt really good though.
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Steve Yun posted:Man, the writings so good Denji's growth through the series has been really interesting. He's still Denji no doubt - but the character at the start of the series compared to the one in the more recent chapters has absolutely changed, despite still being dumb as hell and extremely impulsive. And so much of that character development is owed to his friendships with Aki and Power, and the horror show that goes on with them and Makima. Like, comparing Denji in both eternity devil arcs; I don't think Denji, in the first one, would ever have reacted to Asa the way he did in the second. Bread Set Jettison posted:It’s one of the most amazing, emotionally charged fights I’ve ever seen and I am legit not prepared for it to be animated I feel it could go really well or really badly, but the team that did this first season I think would probably nail it.
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yeah Denji having an emotion conflict over doing what another person says versus getting what he wants is an interesting dilemma. the resolution of going on another date is most certainly not what early Denji would have asked for and shows growth in him someone mentioned that this chapter was the first time we got Denji's inner monologue in part 2 and it gives weight to the scene. he's not mindless but he does have selfish motivations. he's human in a way that's endearing
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 Huh. Earlier on Aki has the same “thing that brought me comfort is now a reminder of trauma” thing Denji had with food Food and cigarettes do a lot of heavy lifting in the story as multifunction symbols, meaning different things in different contexts One neat example of this is when Aki joined the force Himeno gave him a cigarette, then took it back when she found out he was a minor. Later when he is old enough he smokes a lot. Cigarettes are being used as a symbol of maturity in this context.  So I think this is a key to an insight about Makima. After she thinks she defeated Denji, she lights up for (I think?) the first time and she coughs. Seems like an odd detail to put in. I think it’s the author’s way of saying deep down inside Makima is immature, and her wanting to mold the world to her idea of perfection comes from a place of immaturity.  So good.
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I think there are a lot of potential ways to read Makima's smoking, and if nothing else, Fujimoto is someone who obviously gives a lot of thought to symbolism so any of them, all of them, or none of them could be correct. One is the idea that they are pleasurable but self-destructive. One of the many pursuits the devil hunters indulge in as relief valves from the daily terror and mortal threats associated with their job. Aki already knows from the Curse Devil that he's going to die within two years, so why would he care about the cumulative threat of lung cancer 10+ years down the road? Himeno playfully "saves" him from this threat early in their association, but at the time she probably didn't appreciate the depth of his self-destructive obsession. Under this view, maybe Makima realizes (or is at least presaging) her own self-destruction in pursuit of her own satisfaction. Another aspect is the way it can be used to convey an intimate interpersonal connection. The weird Japanese thing about "indirect kisses" is relevant here, but it's not necessarily a romantic intimacy. Aki shares the same habit (even the same brand) as Himeno, and that connection even manages to save him through her influence on a devil. Under this view, Makima may be trying, in her own broken way, to connect with humans now that she's gotten everything she thinks she wanted (as well as wanting to indulge in a "drat I'm good" flex like she may have seen in the movies). Nicotine and substance addiction can also be associated with loss of control, so maybe she feels like she can indulge in this little bit of weakness now that she's "won".
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I was thinking some of those too! Not as they related to Makima but I think they’re all interesting
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Makima lighting a cig, taking one drag, coughing like crazy and immediately putting it out is one of my favorite moments
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Alejandro Sanchez posted:Makima lighting a cig, taking one drag, coughing like crazy and immediately putting it out is one of my favorite moments Makima is at her most sympathetic whenever she's a lame nerd, she should have done that more often.
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