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ThingOne posted:Yeah, but the Warlords were always supposed to be an enemies to sorta-allies kind of thing. Letting one into your top intelligence agency is completely different. I'm not saying it's a bad thing, the Celestial Dragons being so proud/paranoid that they've hamstrung their own secret service is a great twist. Well, Lucci and Kaku were also traitors and being hunted by the WG, the last we saw of them before the time skip. I guess the CP0 recruiters are very forgiving, fitting for a spy organization.
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Eiba posted:Oh. Oh! Of course the devil fruit book was a Vegapunk/MADS thing! Oh maybe Shanks didn’t have one, I misremembered this panel I think 
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hatty posted:Kuma meaning bear has entered the normal lexicon I think. Like Lobo meaning wolf etc. now i understand why homer wanted to bring him back
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So, what do we think the the big Kuma-ball that Bonney's about to touch really contains? Doubtful it's actually just 'pain' as with Zoro, maybe Kuma's painful memories but it isn't exactly specified that whatever was expelled came from him - got a feeling we're due a big 'ol flashback from it anyway!
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Sundayturks posted:So, what do we think the the big Kuma-ball that Bonney's about to touch really contains? Bonnie says she knows his powers better than anyone and then declares it to be his memories
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Vegapunk was probably bluffing when he said "Pain", yeah. I do wonder if his whole personality is inside the bubble too and he will reawaken when touching it once he escapes wherever he is.
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My guess: the bubble actually contains Vegapunk's memories of the situation with Kuma, and the reason he insists that he can't tell Bonney why he did it is because he literally doesn't know why he did it, because Kuma made him promise to "forget" and not look at it.
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Sundayturks posted:So, what do we think the the big Kuma-ball that Bonney's about to touch really contains? His power, his pleasure, his pain
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His actual name is Bisoromi Bear, we've been over this.
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rannum posted:
ahhhhhh gently caress that pwns. oda does it again!
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Bleck posted:My guess: the bubble actually contains Vegapunk's memories of the situation with Kuma, and the reason he insists that he can't tell Bonney why he did it is because he literally doesn't know why he did it, because Kuma made him promise to "forget" and not look at it. this is a shockingly great theory
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Bleck posted:My guess: the bubble actually contains Vegapunk's memories of the situation with Kuma, and the reason he insists that he can't tell Bonney why he did it is because he literally doesn't know why he did it, because Kuma made him promise to "forget" and not look at it. Bonney touching it when kuma is homing into it would be bad
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Yeah I'm thinking the bubble is all of Kuma's memories and personality, separated from himself before his "Pacifistication", and he's now been reactivated and returning to reclaim his memories after spending time gaining info while a slave.
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Bonney has to be a Linlin clone
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MorningMoon posted:Bonney has to be a Linlin clone No she doesn't getting strong Jolyne vibes from Bonney in this chapter
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Bonney making herself buff by time poo poo to threaten Vegapunk is a great moment.
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MorningMoon posted:Bonney has to be a Linlin clone I personally find that theory (raised for the first time I've seen by a goon upthread) that Blackbeard is a clone very interesting, potentially the clone that is referenced at the very start of this chapter. We're obviously supposed to infer that Vegapunk is talking to Stussy because it is revealed that Stussy is a clone right at the end of the same chapter, but Oda is known for using a trick where other characters are talking about a situation or a person in very vague terms and you're supposed to infer from the context around it in the chapter that one thing is going on when in actuality it's something entirely different. Now that being said, I don't want to get into a situation where everyone in one piece is a clone of someone else, I think that would be a terrible idea if it turned out that Vegapunk cloned a whole bunch of people, but Blackbeard being a clone and growing up with Vegapunk would potentially explain alot of the known background of the character being super knowledgeable about world history and devil fruits, having abnormal physiology, and potentially having multiple "twins". ***ok I completely blanked on Vegapunk addressing a girl in that first panel.. so obviously not Blackbeard. I still think it's an interesting theory though. Starsfan fucked around with this message at 23:20 on Jan 19, 2023 |
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https://twitter.com/fchw33/status/1616114025280212994?t=6ncV-AokUdnKVakBz7_-Yw&s=19
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anime was right posted:https://twitter.com/fchw33/status/1616114025280212994?t=6ncV-AokUdnKVakBz7_-Yw&s=19 
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anime was right posted:https://twitter.com/fchw33/status/1616114025280212994?t=6ncV-AokUdnKVakBz7_-Yw&s=19 loving lmao
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That’s insane and also not that surprising lol Calling it now, Blackbeard is a Rocks clone
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blackbeard being a clone would also explain why even though he's a d, he has not properly exhibited d traits like fearing death and stuff. whatever the will of d is it wasnt naturally passed to him so its either warped or missing entirely
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Jose posted:is there a reason kuma is called kuma rather than bear considering his name bartholomew in the original japanese or whatever? ask nami
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Yeah, in general proper nouns (names, etc) shouldn't be translated. Regarding the chapter, everyone who insisted Stussy couldn't possibly be Vegapunk's ally can go suck a giraffe
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Starsfan posted:
Actually, your post has given me a very strange and probably completely false idea.What if Luffy's memories of Sabo were implanted by Kuma, and he was never Luffy's childhood friend?
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Delphisage posted:Actually, your post has given me a very strange and probably completely false idea.What if Luffy's memories of Sabo were implanted by Kuma, and he was never Luffy's childhood friend? That's dumb as hell
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SyntheticPolygon posted:That's dumb as hell Yeah, but that's what I thought of.
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I just saw people on another site point out something interesting. Big Mom was in Rocks, as was the original Buckingham Stussy (who now goes by Miss Bakkin). Du Feld says something implying that Stussy is older than she looks. Could it be that Big Mom and Du Feld think that Stussy is the original Buckingham Stussy, and don't realize that Miss Bakkin is the original? I don't think they'd trust her if they knew she was a clone created by Vegapunk.
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We're gonna get so many dumb unhinged theories out of this  Duval is a failed clone of Sanji!! Gin is a failed clone of Law!! Tashigi is a clone of Kuina!!
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I swear to god if Luffy is a clone of Roger that Dragon adopted I'm gonna be very upset
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Waffleman_ posted:His power, his pleasure, his pain BAAAAAABBBBBbbbbBBYyyyyYYYYYyyyy
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Oda introduces one clone and now everyone starts spouting just the worst theories one could imagine.
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Waffleman_ posted:His power, his pleasure, his pain lmao "no don't touch that or you'll receive your dad's memories of loving your mom!"
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Star Platinum posted:We're gonna get so many dumb unhinged theories out of this The floodgates have certainly been opened.. I mean when you introduce memory transference / displacement and clones in the same chapter, there's basically no end to what someone can come up with and yes the clones were technically introduced earlier with Judge but this is the first time it's become apparent that somebody who is now a prominent actor in the storyline was actually a clone that was created decades previously. Starsfan fucked around with this message at 23:22 on Jan 19, 2023 |
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Sundayturks posted:So, what do we think the the big Kuma-ball that Bonney's about to touch really contains? Makes me wonder if Zoro really did just get 'pain'
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Plebian Parasite posted:Makes me wonder if Zoro really did just get 'pain' I think there's a few possibilities: 1. Kuma can "push" other intangible things out of people, so "pain" and "memories" could be distinct as well as whatever else (other emotions?) 2. Kuma specifically pushes "memories" out and what he pushed out of Luffy was his body's "memory" of the pain he felt 3. Kuma pushes some third distinct type of essense out of people that consists of a mix of both "pain" and "memories" and maybe even other stuff The reveals have all been super poignant and built on layers of pre-established context so I am sure whatever the answer is will be very cool
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ChaseSP posted:Bonney making herself buff by time poo poo to threaten Vegapunk is a great moment. jassa posted:Regarding the chapter, everyone who insisted Stussy couldn't possibly be Vegapunk's ally can go suck a giraffe
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