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Thorn Wishes Talon posted:I was gonna buy this game (darktide, that is) and then i saw that steam reviews are "mostly negative" with people making GBS threads on it all over the place. So I figured I'd ask here for a sanity check... based on your username, get the game lol
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They’re not confirmed, it’s a joke because a previous CM said that some feature people were asking for was “immeasurably complex.” I still do expect GSC though.
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Thorn Wishes Talon posted:I was gonna buy this game (darktide, that is) and then i saw that steam reviews are "mostly negative" with people making GBS threads on it all over the place. So I figured I'd ask here for a sanity check... Set your expectations to "Great co-op horde shooter, and nothing more" and you'll have a good time.
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How does it compare to Vermintide?
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Thorn Wishes Talon posted:I was gonna buy this game (darktide, that is) and then i saw that steam reviews are "mostly negative" with people making GBS threads on it all over the place. So I figured I'd ask here for a sanity check... There's a very good game at the base of Darktide hampered by it being effectively an unlabled Early Access title with severe technical issues that make it outright unplayable for lots of people. Hard crashes to desktop are common and I've experienced them plenty myself, when they happen you'll get zero credit for the mission up to that point (always good when you play a full mission and it crashes at the rewards screen). Crafting systems are incomplete and the parts that are complete aren't great and allow for little in the way of build diversity. The map system is dumb and means you can't choose the mission you want at the difficulty you want, you have to wait for them to cycle around or just pick a difficulty and play whatever mission quickplay drops you in. There's a real-cash cosmetic shop with fake in-game currency and all the non-paid cosmetic customization is threadbare. Bots are braindead, you can't really count on them to function in the higher difficulties. After all that, one of the main reasons for the negative reviews is that Fatshark are a Swedish company so they pushed it out the door and then all went on vacation for the holidays. Not criticizing them for having a healthy work balance but they probably should have just delayed it or did a limited release with a clear Early Access label. I put a bunch of hours in and enjoyed it a lot but there's no denying that it's an incomplete game, looking forward to going back to it in a year or so of if I see a particularly compelling update. NoEyedSquareGuy fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Jan 29, 2023 |
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Anti-Hero posted:Lore question: what are genestealers? Sounds like a ripoff from Dune. It's the xenomorph from Alien
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Thorn Wishes Talon posted:How does it compare to Vermintide? more incomplete right now, worse/half available crafting (2 options just greyed out lol), worse character progression (no sharing of anything, weapons or ressources, weeklies) and character choice (4), kinda "better" direct gameplay because scifi > medival, ranged/melee combat is very great and leaves bit more room, quite literally, for tactics. Weapon sound and feel is abnormal good, sound design is very much one of the best in games. Otherwise very much the same fatshark experience, very obscure, lots of stats broken, patch one thing good break an unrelated one. Also tends to crash a lot still, but now you can reconnect to the sesstion you've been playing. If you apply the tag "early access" onto it, I assume it would be like 70-80something rating on Steam. haldolium fucked around with this message at 01:38 on Jan 29, 2023 |
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Thorn Wishes Talon posted:How does it compare to Vermintide? The combat is much better than Vermintide, but literally everything else is worse.
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Thorn Wishes Talon posted:I was gonna buy this game (darktide, that is) and then i saw that steam reviews are "mostly negative" with people making GBS threads on it all over the place. So I figured I'd ask here for a sanity check... The gameplay and atmosphere is top notch, some of the best around, like just listen to this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5gPRWYC-As and surviving by the skin of your teeth with a good squad is a fun time as you bash enemies around. Everything between you and the gameplay like pre-mission getting new gear ranges from unfinished to bad, the only way to get new weapons is to check a shop every hour and find something with big numbers and hope you get blessings that aren't bugged or useless, let alone blessings you actually want to try, to get the best stat weapons is a 1% chance from a hourly shop, ingame currency cosmetics are almost all just very slight recolorings, usually to a drab grey, challenges to get a couple skins that look different usually require doing something against the teams benefit to winning the mission like doing the whole mission with 25% health or soloing a boss and telling everyone else to chill while you do it or grouping up big swarms. If you can put that stuff aside, the gameplay is great, but you'd also probably be fine watching for a sale in the summer or winter when they get around to reworking all these systems which they said they would do due to all that negative feedback. Ra Ra Rasputin fucked around with this message at 01:45 on Jan 29, 2023 |
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Thorn Wishes Talon posted:I was gonna buy this game (darktide, that is) and then i saw that steam reviews are "mostly negative" with people making GBS threads on it all over the place. So I figured I'd ask here for a sanity check... You'll absolutely get $40 of value because the shooting is great and the melee is great and the classes are all diverse enough you can't go wrong with whichever one
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A good litmus test for this game is to listen to opinions of people who have both good and bad things to say about it. Anyone covering their ears against even the lightest criticism, or anyone who says this is a trash fire not worth the time, is probably more interested in internet arguing than critically evaluating what's here. Everyone who has posted so far is right: 1) You'll have $40 of fun, assuming you are able to play without constant crashes; 2) The moment-to-moment gameplay is a lot of fun, I think it's equivalent to VT2 but a lot of people think it's even better; and 3) Everything else is so perplexingly awful that one wonders what they were thinking when designing this poo poo If you can tolerate a game that is essentially in EA and you don't have big technical problems, go hog wild imo.
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I had a lot of fun with the game and it's very enjoyable to mow through zombies with a chainsaw or charge up mind hadoukens and explode a bunch of heads with it. I stopped playing because trying to get the gear I want was pretty much a crapshoot of random things or actually impossible. So I'm taking a break till they add more stuff. My review: it's fun and worth $40 as you will get your money's worth. If you want to play this game forever and poopsock it then you'll quickly burn out as there's not much after you get to 30 and there's very little incentive to do hard content.
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Extra horde difficulty 3 to 5 is probably the sweet spot of the game for me, or low intensity 4-5 for just leveling and plasteel hunting. I just wish you could pick those everytime instead of waiting for the right random mission modifiers to pop up.
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Thanks everyone. I think I'll wait until they add/improve the various meta-game aspects.
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Thorn Wishes Talon posted:I was gonna buy this game (darktide, that is) and then i saw that steam reviews are "mostly negative" with people making GBS threads on it all over the place. So I figured I'd ask here for a sanity check... This was and still is my take on darktide, with the caveat that its population has cratered since release so public games often don't fill up for awhile anymore. Gay Rat Wedding posted:There is $40 of value to be had right now because the in-mission gameplay is generally fun and you don’t have to play on high difficulties to get access to all the content in the game, so the issues it has aren’t necessarily game-ruining. The basic action game feel is good and the L4D-style gameplay of controlling hordes while staying near your teammates mostly works.
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The Slaughterer blessing--the stacking % bonus to power on enemy kill that isn't the awful version--is just absurdly important for making Thunder Hammer feel good, and I highly recommend trying it out if you don't like TH but happen to find one with that blessing. Especially if you use the "Press 1 to cancel the thunder strike refractory period" strat that, personally, mostly solves the problem I had with whiffing and hitting trash enemies because you can chain out charged attacks extremely quickly. This is how the weapon should feel.
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Game is the funniest, giggling at the ragdoll violence-est, ambience nailing perfect sound cueing-est technical mess that fights my attempts to play it I've ever wrestled with and I can't wait for it to finally come together the way Vermintide 2 did a goodly while after it released.
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It’s a great game when you’re in a mission and there are no bugs. Like really good. The shooting and melee feel great and the lighting is very well done. It feels like 40k done right. The bad is anything not in a mission. The “story”, the “COMING SOON” crafting, the shop, and many other things. Is it worth $40? Yeah. And when they finally make the rest of the game it’s gonna be great and you’ll already own it. Buy it now, play until you’re bored, and come back when it’s complete.
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Spanish Manlove posted:My review: it's fun and worth $40 as you will get your money's worth. If you want to play this game forever and poopsock it then you'll quickly burn out as there's not much after you get to 30 and there's very little incentive to do hard content. There's very little external incentive but personally I find diff 4/5 way more fun. Malice is good for loving around with weird builds though.
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When you have a balanced team where everyone is paying attention and focusing on their roles well, targeting the right elites etc, heresy is absolutely perfect. I can imagine damnation would be the same feeling if you have a coordinated group with everyone on mics. I'm at level 30 with all my characters but I still find that experience compelling enough to keep coming back. Definitely worth the $40 if you don't have too many technical issues.
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And FYI, what I've heard is that 2xxx series Nvidia cards are the most stable, and it's the people with 3xxxx series cards that have a bad time. I have an RTX 2060, and I haven't had a crash or a disconnect since the first beta, sand just one then. My post-launch experience has been solid FPS and rock stable gameplay.
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Damnation is pretty much the same feeling as Heresy, just slightly less forgiving for taking avoidable damage or pushing forward into dangerous areas too early.
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mllaneza posted:And FYI, what I've heard is that 2xxx series Nvidia cards are the most stable, and it's the people with 3xxxx series cards that have a bad time. I have an RTX 2060, and I haven't had a crash or a disconnect since the first beta, sand just one then. My post-launch experience has been solid FPS and rock stable gameplay. I had a smattering of crashes with a 2080 super, I don't think 20 series are immune. It did get somewhat better after the beta though.
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After playing mostly heresy and damnation i feel like malice is about as hard as uprising or sedition was when i was mainly a malice gamer. Like losing malice now is unthinkable. Damnation vs Heresy is basically you need pretty good weapons to reliably clear damnation because of break points. Heresy mostly fails when the ai director decides to gently caress you over with multiple disablers, damnation you can just straight up lose.
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Tweaking the config file to actually for real turn off the RTX has fixed my crashing problems on my 3070. I haven't crashed since wheras before I'd crash every couple missions it seemed.
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mllaneza posted:And FYI, what I've heard is that 2xxx series Nvidia cards are the most stable, and it's the people with 3xxxx series cards that have a bad time. I have an RTX 2060, and I haven't had a crash or a disconnect since the first beta, sand just one then. My post-launch experience has been solid FPS and rock stable gameplay. I've a 2060 too and it's super crashy for me.
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I basically agree with everyone else but would also add that the characters are a bit flat and lifeless compared to those in Vermintide 2, mainly because they're stand-ins for the player (with lots of ultimately meaningless cosmetic customisation options) rather than actual characters like the U5. So if you liked the dialogue and banter in Vermintide it's significantly worse in Darktide and - unlike most of the other downsides the game has - that will never change.
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Thorn Wishes Talon posted:I was gonna buy this game (darktide, that is) and then i saw that steam reviews are "mostly negative" with people making GBS threads on it all over the place. So I figured I'd ask here for a sanity check... As a 40K fan, there is so, so much to love. It's frankly the best game in the 40K setting, bar none. The atmosphere, the visuals, the sound-design, the lore-friendly chatter, the weapon behaviour. It's all spot on. The negative reviews are mostly complaining about missing features such as crafting, certain bugs (which affect some people more than others, I've had no crashes, a friend crashes every other session), and the slow release of content. There's some divisive design decisions as well which different people have different tolerance levels of. Judging by your username, I don't think you'd be disappointed in the slightest. However, the story that Dan Abnett helped pen is seemingly absent at the moment, and the current content feels more like a prologue in one of his books. ijyt fucked around with this message at 11:27 on Jan 29, 2023 |
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Angry_Ed posted:Tweaking the config file to actually for real turn off the RTX has fixed my crashing problems on my 3070. I haven't crashed since wheras before I'd crash every couple missions it seemed. Same here. I think I’ve had one crash in several weeks. I’d also recommend following this guide for general fidelity tweaks. The LOD and Aniso adjustments have made the game look noticeably better and have had no perceptible hit on FPS. edit: Oh, and reduce the number of ragdoll calculations in the options menu. Someone in the thread mentioned that they’re very CPU intensive. Dropping mine from the default of 12 to 8 has eliminated the momentary FPS drops when explosions go off in a crowd. Magitek fucked around with this message at 13:06 on Jan 29, 2023 |
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On the flip side, if your CPU can handle it, increasing the ragdolls from like 12 to 24 is a huge increase in the amount of fun you have with Psyker or other classes with huge explosions
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I really like the game and have been looking forward to it more than any other since VT2 probably and I've basically given up on it. Between lower pops / longer queues, absolutely ridiculous load in times, and crashes, my use case for it (dip in and play a game or two before bed) isn't really worth it or enjoyable. How half assed everything but the combat is is just the cherry on top. If they could even just fix the crashes and load ins to the hub and missions taking so long sometimes for no apparent reason, I'd probably pick it up again terrorist ambulance fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Jan 29, 2023 |
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Thorn Wishes Talon posted:Thanks everyone. I think I'll wait until they add/improve the various meta-game aspects. Good idea. The combat is fun but if you're not jonesing for something new to play you'll be a lot more satisfied getting a more complete, stable game for cheaper in a year or two
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Zephro posted:rather than actual characters like the U5. or four. doesn't matter
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mllaneza posted:And FYI, what I've heard is that 2xxx series Nvidia cards are the most stable, and it's the people with 3xxxx series cards that have a bad time. I have an RTX 2060, and I haven't had a crash or a disconnect since the first beta, sand just one then. My post-launch experience has been solid FPS and rock stable gameplay. I have a 3700 and only experienced one or two crashes in 120+ hours of playing But I did all the cool kid tweaks like turning off RTX in the config files back when everyone was arguing that it had no effect so 
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rideANDxORdie posted:Good idea. The combat is fun but if you're not jonesing for something new to play you'll be a lot more satisfied getting a more complete, stable game for cheaper in a year or two I hope this is true but if they don’t turn things around in a year or two the playerbase is going to be two digits long.
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I mean I agree Fatshark does not have the capability or capacity to run a live service game with constant updates, it's just in two years you'll have a chance of playing a game with more than ten levels that doesn't crash 1-3 times an hour
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Zephro posted:I basically agree with everyone else but would also add that the characters are a bit flat and lifeless compared to those in Vermintide 2, mainly because they're stand-ins for the player (with lots of ultimately meaningless cosmetic customisation options) rather than actual characters like the U5. So if you liked the dialogue and banter in Vermintide it's significantly worse in Darktide and - unlike most of the other downsides the game has - that will never change. I'd like to reinforce this. It doesn't come up as often as the more immediate problems, so it's possible that we are in the minority being bothered by this. But I really, REALLY wish they had gone the U5 route instead of bespoke characters. They really could have quadrupled down on the atmosphere and lore with only four tailor-made characters. I understand it's annoying to not be able to play the same class as someone else in your group, but I also don't think that's a deal-breaking limitation for most people. The game is still fun, but it's in spite of the weaker characterizations. The VT2 characters are such a huge part of why I loved VT2, and it just isn't here right now. The story is another flavor failure IMO. The story being completely non-existent wouldn't be as big of a problem to me if they weren't marketing it as DAN ABNETT DID IT when there is nothing to indicate that anything was written at all. Everyone hates and mistrusts you, and even as you chain success after success, you just meet new people who all say they don't trust you. There's no development or forward movement through, what, five different "story" cutscenests? And then at level 30, "okay we trust you now. Do you remember this other npc from a cutscene? You mighr have missed it because you were so amazed by the 13th consecutice NPC saying they dont trust you. Well she was a traitor and now they're dead." And then THAT'S IT. What happened? There's no event progression, thwres no characterization between NPCs. No relationships develop between ANYONE. Where is the story? The game doesn't even need a story. VT2 barely had a narrative stringing together it's missions. But they decided to go for it and dropped the ball spectacularly.
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big cummers ONLY posted:I'd like to reinforce this. It doesn't come up as often as the more immediate problems, so it's possible that we are in the minority being bothered by this. But I really, REALLY wish they had gone the U5 route instead of bespoke characters. They really could have quadrupled down on the atmosphere and lore with only four tailor-made characters. I understand it's annoying to not be able to play the same class as someone else in your group, but I also don't think that's a deal-breaking limitation for most people. Take this with a grain of salt because I can't remember where I heard/read it in the storm of DT stuff I read in the run-up to the launch, but my understanding is that bespoke characters was a big request from the streaming community. Basically some streamer who's trying to do their thing and build their brand etc. isn't that interested in being Baradin, but if they can make something that looks like the FuzzyNugTugger420 av they use in all their other online content, or something totally ~wacky and zany~ it gives them better engagement.
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I think I'm in the minority but I prefer the generic characters because in Vermintide after running a mission once or twice, you'd just hear a whole lot of repeating dialog every time you played. That made all the levels in Vermintide start to grate after playing through them a couple times. The missions and dialog in DT are less interesting on an initial playthrough but they have a whole lot more staying power because the relatively generic nature of them means that you're not just being dragged along linear setpieces each run, the focus can be on the firefights instead of the short walking sim moments where you just walk from point A to B while listening to dialog about the distant setpiece you're looking at. But to be fair I am personally very bothered by listening to the same dialog/watching the same "cutscene"/etc repeatedly in a way that other people might not be
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