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Motronic posted:You get real touchy when someone calls you out on this. My dude, microbacterial contamination at any single step of the brewing cycle ruins weeks of work. A hose, hot water, and a -sterilized way to transfer liquids to the next step- are basically mandatory to the process.
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TheParadigm posted:My dude, microbacterial contamination at any single step of the brewing cycle ruins weeks of work. As much as I hate to defend the guy, this was a garden hose used for cleanup and filling buckets for sanitizer and stuff.
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Feb 9, 2023 09:06
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Escape From Noise posted:As much as I hate to defend the guy, this was a garden hose used for cleanup and filling buckets for sanitizer and stuff. Still need to it to do the cleaning poo poo food production is so much cleaning and so little actual food
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Vampire Panties posted:as the wrong kind of computer toucher, are there one-way distro lists? didn't see this answered, but the easiest way to do this is put the entire dirsto list in the BCC field
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Yesterday I tried to compliment my project engineer for creating a specific and actionable plan to resolve an issue and when I said "if we can get these all to come home then I think this discussion is over" and he started bullshitting about characterizing and capturing lessons learned and blah blag blah. It's his default "I don't have a plan but I disagree" speech. I can't wait to hang him out to dry for a couple months when my baby gets here.
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Feb 9, 2023 12:07
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champagne posting posted:poo poo food production Aramark popping up in a buncha threads lately
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Methylethylaldehyde posted:This is like MBA 501 tier poo poo. "So you've been hired to manage a group." The naive undergrad answer is 'learn how each person does their jobs, learn the needs of the business and the pain points on your team, then work to resolve them'. The correct answer is 'make friends with your boss and boss' boss, go golfing with them when you can, make sure your team has several places you can shuffle blame, promise whatever you can as long as the delivery time is far enough away that you can get promoted before it's due.'
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Feb 9, 2023 13:12
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cynic posted:My team did a minor fuckup, fixed it in 15 minutes, but during that time someone complained directly to the CEO so now I have to spend a whole day writing a report for the CTO so he can explain to the CEO why this happened and how we will prevent it happening again. Ugh this is definitely my least favorite thing about my field as well. Many of the bosses need to justify their existence and so any time a minor snafu is observed it becomes some sort of exercise in how we can all prevent it from ever happening again, and huge unwieldy policy changes are made to try and prevent simple issues that just need to be delegated. Drives me bonkers bc it wastes so much of everyone's time and the boss's idea is usually so unhinged from the realities of production it causes a host of new problems. So often we end up back where we started because there was a reason for it to be that way, you just need to be doing your jobs and making sure every step happens, bosses!
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StrangersInTheNight posted:Ugh this is definitely my least favorite thing about my field as well. Many of the bosses need to justify their existence and so any time a minor snafu is observed it becomes some sort of exercise in how we can all prevent it from ever happening again, and huge unwieldy policy changes are made to try and prevent simple issues that just need to be delegated. The problem here is that someone entirely jumped the chain of command (maybe 3 levels of management) to go to the head honcho. She delegated it back down my own chain which is proper and normally fine, but in this context it's just stupid and my own management would prefer to pass back a bigass report than just say 'it wasn't a problem, the system involved will be gone by the time you read this, you get paid way, way too much to take direct complaints from some random middle manager with well known self entitlement issues'
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Feb 9, 2023 13:52
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I sold my portion of the company to the other co-owners, quit, and got a new job. It owns. I start Monday. I've been contacted 7 times since my quit date (Friday) despite leaving copious handoffs and training people for two months. They have my consulting fees and they're more than willing to pay them but it's going to be on my time if I decide to consult. I wrote handbooks with everything step by step that I do. If they can't be bothered to read them and didn't internalize it over the years I had been there, or the months of training, that's on them. Hire several people to do what I did 80-100 hours a week, see if I care. I did all of the corporate sales, I managed people, I did all the purchasing, I did formulation and testing, I even fuckin ran lathes and did, until we hired warehouse folks, shipping, receiving, stocking/moving. I handled the carrier relationships. I did accounts payable and receivable. I handled credit and collections. I handled new vendor outreach, negotiation and onboarding. The warehouse guys walked out yesterday because of frustration. I get it. They are now applying for jobs through the university which I have zero doubt they'll get. They're all smart kids with excellent work ethic and I'm happy to be among their references. And for the thread: sometimes a poo poo job is just a poo poo job. If the company survives, good. I hope it does. If it doesn't then they should've thought about that instead of "wow she'll do everything for us eternally."
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Also if you own a business and offer rock bottom pay with no benefits, do not be surprised when someone uses a cool title to get a way better job elsewhere.
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Feb 9, 2023 13:56
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Holland Oates posted:Also if you own a business and offer rock bottom pay with no benefits, do not be surprised when someone uses a cool title to get a way better job elsewhere. People don't expect that? I thought that was the whole purpose of the cool title as a carrot? As in, I'm getting paid gently caress all but you're going to give me a title and experience way above the pay grade, with the understanding that this has value because I can leverage it into a better job in the future. I mean, buyer beware with that, some weird title like "Chief Waffle Officer" might not open doors and if you don't actually have the experience or chops to jump to the next rung you might not get hired to begin with. Getting called the COO doesn't help if your resume basically tells people you were a warehouse manager. But still, title that will get you a better job down the road in lieu of pay today is the general outline of the deal.
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Feb 9, 2023 14:19
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We hired someone to implement some HR type stuff and made them the Director of Sexual Assault Prevention at age approximately 22 right out of college. Always have to hold back from asking if their salary is the same as the other directors, who are very few and highly placed.
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Feb 9, 2023 14:52
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A friend was complaining to me the other day about her boss telling her that her new role didn't have a job title and she could make one up. Apparently she saw this as a troubling lack of structure rather than an excuse to puff up her importance in the future.
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Feb 9, 2023 14:59
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goatface posted:A friend was complaining to me the other day about her boss telling her that her new role didn't have a job title and she could make one up. Apparently she saw this as a troubling lack of structure rather than an excuse to puff up her importance in the future. It's kind of a porque no los dos situation. It's both an opportunity to get your resume inflated, but it also indicates structural management and organization problems.
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Feb 9, 2023 15:01
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She's working for a charity, so she really should be used to that.
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goatface posted:A friend was complaining to me the other day about her boss telling her that her new role didn't have a job title and she could make one up. Apparently she saw this as a troubling lack of structure rather than an excuse to puff up her importance in the future.  I"d have to guess this isn't your friends first rodeo. Anywhere that let me make up my own job title also expected me to do literally everything.
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Looks like we may have managed to get an outside sale!  I dropped by with a sample at the end of my day. They said they liked it (but who knows what they really think???). I guess they also liked that it was pink and cherry blossoms might be blooming in about a month? We'll see!
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slurm posted:We hired someone to implement some HR type stuff and made them the Director of Sexual Assault Prevention at age approximately 22 right out of college. Always have to hold back from asking if their salary is the same as the other directors, who are very few and highly placed. So, why the gently caress did your company need to make a specific role for this?
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TheSpartacus posted:So, why the gently caress did your company need to make a specific role for this? There was a really strange series of events that led to a very high-level regulatory focus on this. The title wasn't quite that stark but it was close to it and the role was focused on it. I just checked and it's changed to something more bland just this month, but sadly it's been lowered to the level below "director". Edit: I think the company actually handled this pretty well and the person they hired has been handling all the compliance stuff admirably, the initial ridiculous title is the only thing fitting this thread. I would still love to know their salary. slurm fucked around with this message at 15:48 on Feb 9, 2023 |
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YeahTubaMike posted:With every passing day, I get increasingly annoyed at execs and/or people who didn't get laid off talking about how their company "made a difficult decision" to lay people off. Like, no it wasn't, lol. If 10 people making $10 each is good, 100 people making $10 each is better. If those extra 90 people aren't making the extra $10 that's an organizational failure and laying them off is laying off the dream of massive profits. Need a  say emote
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lmao we're a week ahead of where we're supposed to be in the shutdown of manufacturing, firmly entering "so we're gonna start having mandatory days to take no pay or pto" territory. I kinda wanted to save all my PTO to get paid an extra week+ on top of my severance but it looks like I'm gonna have to burn it all AND take a bunch of no-pays. Nobody is going to work on Sunday, though, get to watch Rihanna use all the poo poo I made and get paid for it I guess.
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Cyrano4747 posted:People don't expect that? I thought that was the whole purpose of the cool title as a carrot? As in, I'm getting paid gently caress all but you're going to give me a title and experience way above the pay grade, with the understanding that this has value because I can leverage it into a better job in the future. You would think, but the shocked Pikachu faces when I said "by the way, I'm going to be leaving in 2 months, and this is my more than generous notice that I'll be selling my interest. I'm not required to notify you, but I am required to tell you that I'm not required to notify you, so. Buy me out please, so I don't sell to the highest bidder." "But who will do--" that is absolutely not my issue, since y'all didn't let us hire people in order to inflate your bottom line. ETA: I am walking into a real actual factual directorship and it rules.
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Management doesn’t know which countries we support, but when it comes to planning Disney vacations they’re like Kevin on the Office being able to do mental math only when the units are pies. Time of year to go, resort proximity/perks, ride openings & line strategies, it’s kinda impressive.
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Holland Oates posted:You would think, but the shocked Pikachu faces when I said "by the way, I'm going to be leaving in 2 months, and this is my more than generous notice that I'll be selling my interest. I'm not required to notify you, but I am required to tell you that I'm not required to notify you, so. Buy me out please, so I don't sell to the highest bidder." I also sold my stake, gave several months notice, resigned my VP and BOD positions, and took a peon-level job at a smaller firm. Sooo much better. My boss will call and ask "how would you have handled this at previous company" and I can just do a phone shrug "that's not my role anymore and I don't miss the stress level." It is great.
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Holland Oates posted:Also if you own a business and offer rock bottom pay with no benefits, do not be surprised when someone uses a cool title to get a way better job elsewhere.
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slurm posted:We hired someone to implement some HR type stuff and made them the Director of Sexual Assault Prevention at age approximately 22 right out of college. Always have to hold back from asking if their salary is the same as the other directors, who are very few and highly placed. This reminds me of when I worked at an old job and interacted with someone whose job title was like "Vice President of Intestinal Disease and Waterborne Illness"
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Cheesus posted:"But we're family!" And just like a family you develop talent, quit and eventually take an equity position in a new one.
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Cthulu Carl posted:This reminds me of when I worked at an old job and interacted with someone whose job title was like "Vice President of Intestinal Disease and Waterborne Illness" Definitely not going to eat or drink anything they give me
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Motronic posted:If I had a sweet job where I got to gently caress off and make my own schedule most of the time I'd sure make sure I got the main parts right on time like the brewing. Are you the dumb poo poo your work does?
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pumped up for school posted:I also sold my stake, gave several months notice, resigned my VP and BOD positions, and took a peon-level job at a smaller firm. God it's gonna fuckin own to not be everyone's boss and responsible for ensuring that literally everything and everyone is addressed properly before they even need anything done. Imagine loving clocking out for an entire weekend. What the gently caress, I haven't done that in thirty years. Cheesus posted:"But we're family!" Barudak posted:And just like a family you develop talent, quit and eventually take an equity position in a new one. It's this. Also because I had to stop myself from selling because I was getting up to go to work at 3am to build pallets to ship out because my warehouse folks were all university students and athletes, and they weren't able to work full time. My salary doubled. Lol. For less work. What a loving world.
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Machai posted:Are you the dumb poo poo your work does? I'm fairly certain Motronic is, actually, since I'm pretty sure they're:
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Agents are GO! posted:I'm fairly certain Motronic is, actually, since I'm pretty sure they're: Pretty sure he's posted elsewhere about how he basically won the startup IPO lotto and got the gently caress out. Don't think he's a landlord.
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Cyrano4747 posted:Pretty sure he's posted elsewhere about how he basically won the startup IPO lotto and got the gently caress out. Don't think he's a landlord. Then I take that, specifically, back. 
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Brewery related question, in Redmond, WA there seem to be an oddly large number of breweries such as Black Raven & Mac & Jack. Some have decent locations with a restaurant but others are crammed into office parks. Was wondering why the city would have so many, is it likely bored tech guys retired at 40 and starting a business? Or do some cities have zoning laws that would make them attractive? It seemed odd as Redmond has ridiculous property values so would think they’d be more concentrated in nearby rural areas.
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Tech dudes love starting a hobby brewery.
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Holland Oates posted:You would think, but the shocked Pikachu faces when I said "by the way, I'm going to be leaving in 2 months, and this is my more than generous notice that I'll be selling my interest. I gave my last job a one week notice and regret nothing, lol
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Johnny Truant posted:I gave my last job a one week notice and regret nothing, lol I really wanted to, but I was trying to be nice to the warehouse folks and the people that didn't make my life hell. Lesson learned, next time gently caress it, lol.
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Had an interview yesterday and absolutely killed it. This job is a 10 minute commute, has way more interesting and high-profile work, and would be a $30k raise. Lets hope things pan out, I cannot wait to hand in my notice.
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Hyrax Attack! posted:Brewery related question, in Redmond, WA there seem to be an oddly large number of breweries such as Black Raven & Mac & Jack. Some have decent locations with a restaurant but others are crammed into office parks. Was wondering why the city would have so many, is it likely bored tech guys retired at 40 and starting a business? Or do some cities have zoning laws that would make them attractive? It seemed odd as Redmond has ridiculous property values so would think they’d be more concentrated in nearby rural areas. If it's anything like my city rent is like 1/4 of normal commerical spaces so people think they can make something happen.
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