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Powerful Two-Hander posted:Yeah they're full width boxes so just need the faceplates changing as all are cat 5e (I really hope there's enough slack in the cable to do this else I'm going to have to crimp an end on and I don't have a crimping tool). Seems that metal faced ethernet sockets are weirdly expensive though. Why are you buying STP keystones? Though apparently high quality UTP keystones are expensive.
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H110Hawk posted:Why are you buying STP keystones? Though apparently high quality UTP keystones are expensive. Sorry I meant the faceplate for the box to fit the keystone into, not the keystone itself. I was looking at them with the keystone built in and they were coming up weirdly expensive, but I just realised that one of the cheaper ones that I thought was just the plate with no keystone ctually does have one built in, it's just not clear from the page. So now the question is: do I go the whole way with the replacements and wire the bedroom for ethernet?
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Always wire everything for ethernet.
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# ? Feb 23, 2023 12:16 |
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Always Be Connecting
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:So now the question is: do I go the whole way with the replacements and wire the bedroom for ethernet? The way ethernet is wired is actually 100% compatible with one or two lines of telephone connectivity. You can plug a RJ11 in to a RJ45 jack and it'll work (though it does obviously apply pressure on the side pins that may cause it to not work right for ethernet after a while), so there's very little reason to not just convert them all. If for whatever reason you actually have a need for three or four lines of POTS from a single jack then you need to keep it to standard telecom wiring, but for the more common one or two ethernet wiring works perfectly.
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`Nemesis posted:
Every time I see a house where it's like "my vision comes first, no compromises!" I know I'll find minisplits if I look for them lol.
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the first two levels of a parking structure at a mall near Milwaukee just collapsed, they're searching for survivors. edit: only two floors https://www.tmj4.com/news/local-news/parking-structure-partially-collapses-at-bayshore-mall-tmj4-crews-confirm `Nemesis fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Feb 23, 2023 |
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Is there a problem with my foundation, sir?
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GreenNight posted:Is there a problem with my foundation, sir? It's lasted for 800 years, it's probably OK.
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`Nemesis posted:the first two levels of a parking structure at a mall near Milwaukee just collapsed, they're searching for survivors. Haven't been to this mall, yet. I should head over there after work and check it out! (hope everyone is okay)
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Deteriorata posted:It's lasted for 800 years, it's probably OK. Looks like the mortar has eroded away, though, those pebbles might start shifting if nothing is done
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GreenNight posted:Is there a problem with my foundation, sir? It's a rock solid foundation, what's the problem?
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Just Winging It posted:It's a rock solid foundation, what's the problem?
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wolrah posted:The way ethernet is wired is actually 100% compatible with one or two lines of telephone connectivity. You can plug a RJ11 in to a RJ45 jack and it'll work (though it does obviously apply pressure on the side pins that may cause it to not work right for ethernet after a while), so there's very little reason to not just convert them all. I haven't had an actual physical line phone for maybe 5 years? Longer if you count "owned it but it was never answered", which actually kind of makes it a bit weird that the place was built in 2014 and had a bunch of bedrooms wired for phone, but then nothing wired for data. I guess it was probably at the point where people started to drop physical cables in favour of WiFi? I mean I have a mesh network running but by its own metrics it has some issues with signal from the line entry point to the base stations, and how can I sit there and pass up a 10% gain in network bandwidth that I will never use???
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Uthor posted:Haven't been to this mall, yet. I should head over there after work and check it out! bayshore sucks imo we had a few inches of sleet yesterday, and it looks like the snow removal service piled all of this in one spot o the top, and the concrete span gave way. no injuries, just a pair of flattened cars, thankfully
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:Ohhh that would sort of make sense if *any* of them were actually connected. I'd forgotten about those old "signal booster" things you had to have if you had too many runs off one aerial/dish source. This is my next home project. So much cat 5e just sitting unused in the old phone jacks
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https://i.imgur.com/5HJRZ3v.mp4
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Orange shirt guy was acting unsafely, right? The assumption with heavy lift tools is that they could fail like that at any time, right?
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Eh, he wasn't in the path of failure. It's not the safest thing to be doing but it's not like he's under the load.
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True, if he'd been under the load then he'd not have walked away from that.
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:I haven't had an actual physical line phone for maybe 5 years? Longer if you count "owned it but it was never answered", which actually kind of makes it a bit weird that the place was built in 2014 and had a bunch of bedrooms wired for phone, but then nothing wired for data. Every so often, my LG "smart" TV abruptly forgets how to do wired ethernet, and it can only be restored to sanity by a full unplug-from-the-wall power cycle. I can only assume the wired connection option didn't get nearly as much beta testing as the wireless. I do have wi-fi in the house, but I still tend to think of it as just a convenience for laptops and tablets and whatnot. It still seems strange to me to use wireless for a permanent connection like the living room TV when it's not that hard to just plug into the wires and completely avoid "the freakishness of radio", to steal a phrase from Gann. Am I old? I think I may be old.
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My LG TV somehow has the ability to reboot my wifi router, because that makes sense.
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Sash! posted:My LG TV somehow has the ability to reboot my wifi router, because that makes sense. How? Is it crashing the router? Do you need to update your router's firmware? Or it could just be your router circling the drain. I had that happen like 15 years ago?
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I had something like that happen with a linksys I had. Turned out I’d grabbed the wrong wall wart from the collection at some point and was running it on like 3/4 the current it wanted. Hell of a thing to troubleshoot though.
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I can easily stream 4k to my tv over wifi. It's not as fast as ethernet for really heavy duty stuff like pulling down an 80gb game off of Steam, but its fine for everything else.
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It's all so dependent on the conditions. I've been in a stone block cottage in the UK where the wifi only worked in the same room as the router, even cell phones only worked halfway decently near windows. Call me a luddite but I know a wire will work.
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I did wired to my Samsung because it could not maintain a wireless connection. It was super annoying how it would work if you tested it but not until you tested it. Wired has worked everytime. Plus it allowed me to wire my PS5.
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Powered Descent posted:Every so often, my LG "smart" TV abruptly forgets how to do wired ethernet, and it can only be restored to sanity by a full unplug-from-the-wall power cycle. Hilariously, the same happens to me with my LG smart TV, but with the WiFi connection.
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My LG smart TV was never hooked up to the internet in its entire life. It's now sitting on my porch in the rain. My roku is wired because I'm not a freak.
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1) drop a log 2) look out here comes my piss!
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3D Megadoodoo posted:1) drop a log Fella,
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Leperflesh posted:I can easily stream 4k to my tv over wifi. It's not as fast as ethernet for really heavy duty stuff like pulling down an 80gb game off of Steam, but its fine for everything else. Absolutely, modern wireless is perfectly capable of handling a stream of 4K or a download or anything else. It's more the fact that you end up with dozens of devices in a house and the more you can remove off the shared medium the better. IOT devices are the worst. They often don't support modern protocols so they need a lot of airtime, and if their messages are delayed or collided with then it's a particular annoyance.
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Yeah, wireless is plenty fast but everything is sharing the same wire, so to speak. Plus it has higher latency.
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StormDrain posted:I did wired to my Samsung because it could not maintain a wireless connection. It was super annoying how it would work if you tested it but not until you tested it. Wired has worked everytime. Plus it allowed me to wire my PS5. This was actually my original plan because my Samsung TV kept loving up it's WiFi connection somehow but I think blocking all its advert bullshit at the network level seems to have resolved it for now. Also I'd need to run a cable through the wall to put a new socket in close enough to do it and The TV still has a really stupid problem where it will occasionally fill up its memory cache or whatever it is and you have to do the equivalent of a hard reboot to get any streaming working again. Not ideal when a toddler wants another episode of something.
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Powered Descent posted:Every so often, my LG "smart" TV abruptly forgets how to do wired ethernet, and it can only be restored to sanity by a full unplug-from-the-wall power cycle. I can only assume the wired connection option didn't get nearly as much beta testing as the wireless. quote:I do have wi-fi in the house, but I still tend to think of it as just a convenience for laptops and tablets and whatnot. It still seems strange to me to use wireless for a permanent connection like the living room TV when it's not that hard to just plug into the wires and completely avoid "the freakishness of radio", to steal a phrase from Gann. ~Coxy posted:Absolutely, modern wireless is perfectly capable of handling a stream of 4K or a download or anything else. wolrah fucked around with this message at 17:28 on Feb 24, 2023 |
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I bought this house a year ago, and when I moved in found out that the prior owner had wired every single room with 2 Ethernet drops, all terminating in a big patch panel in the closet next to the fiber drop. Turns out the prior owner owned an IT consulting firm, so all that stuff was done very right. Bless you, prior owner.
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If I want to run a bunch of ethernet from my crawlspace to my attic, what's the best way to do it? I don't want to take out any walls but I have a place I can get to easily from above and below that conveniently also has access on the first floor. Also if I want to run ethernet in my attic to get to the back of the second floor and the eaves for cameras, how should I do that.
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canyoneer posted:I bought this house a year ago, and when I moved in found out that the prior owner had wired every single room with 2 Ethernet drops, all terminating in a big patch panel in the closet next to the fiber drop. My house was wired with cat5e to all the comms drops, and meets together in a utility room where I put in some equipment and have been converting phone jacks to network when I feel like it. Until I went to do the one in the master bedroom. Apparently some secondary phone part is spliced into that line, SOMEWHERE, and a typical approach for that is to just bundle wires together to get the expected number of conductors. So for that line, my tester shows a bunch of shorts across half the pins and it’s probably up in the attic or somewhere. :/
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slurm posted:If I want to run a bunch of ethernet from my crawlspace to my attic, what's the best way to do it? I don't want to take out any walls but I have a place I can get to easily from above and below that conveniently also has access on the first floor. Also if I want to run ethernet in my attic to get to the back of the second floor and the eaves for cameras, how should I do that. What's a bunch? For two wires just drill a hole up into the wall from the crawlspace and another down from the attic and fish the wire through. I reccomend using firberglash fish rods, and have two boxes of wire and do both at once. For two dozen wires.... Bigger holes, and more time. Maybe do two to four at a time depending the total length. I spent an afternoon getting two wires from my office down to the basement because there wasn't a direct route and I didn't want to drill a bunch of holes in drywall and patch them. It was rough! One hole in the wall, feed trough the top plate of my wall, hook that with the fish rod and pull it to a central wall, down there to the first floor ceiling, down another wall I already had a hole in, down to the basement. Lots of intermediate pulling and straightening wire, but it's done! I considered running a couple other rooms but they don't have devices now and I have other projects. It would be nice to get one for the TV in my master bedroom and one in each other bedroom, but I can wait. There's some other locations on the first floor I'll do first.
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canyoneer posted:I bought this house a year ago, and when I moved in found out that the prior owner had wired every single room with 2 Ethernet drops, all terminating in a big patch panel in the closet next to the fiber drop. wrong thread
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