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put on Triangle of Sadness. kinda hate it so far
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A MIRACLE posted:put on Triangle of Sadness. kinda hate it so far Would you say it makes you grumpy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GVuGmHzzCU
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Mar 3, 2023 17:11
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The Menu/Glass Onion/Triangle of Sadness triumvirate wasn't very good and it was no surprise that Triangle got Best Picture buzz nonsense just because it was the slightly more pretentious one directed by Ruben Östlund (I much preferred his movie The Square). Triangle contracts the farther I get from it rather than one of those films that sits with you after, like leaving the theater I was like "that was ok, i guess" and I'm lower on it now than ever. Of course I rolled my eyes at Tar (the most NPR donor movie ever) so, different strokes for different folks 
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Mar 3, 2023 17:16
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I liked tar a lot better than this, which is just filling me with self loathing? for some reason
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Mar 3, 2023 17:19
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A MIRACLE posted:put on Triangle of Sadness. kinda hate it so far I tolerated the first third, actively enjoyed the middle third, and just started browsing my phone for the last third. Triangle of Sadness needs some severe editing. Like, say what you will about The Menu and Glass Onion, at least they were watchable.
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Mar 3, 2023 17:21
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Tar seems like a pretentious bore. Sadly, Cate Blanchett is uniformly great and the director also directed Little Children so I'm going to have to watch it sooner or later.
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Mar 3, 2023 17:32
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Yeah I appreciated it mostly because of Blanchett's performance but it is really one of those situations where classical music and its references are a signifier or fetish for some people that indicates something is inherently "intellectual". It's a fine movie, it is well directed and I was interested in what Todd Field had done after all these years, overall kinda tedious.
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Mar 3, 2023 17:41
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AngryBooch posted:I tolerated the first third, actively enjoyed the middle third, and just started browsing my phone for the last third. Triangle of Sadness needs some severe editing. I will not say that about rear end onion because it wasn’t Edit: the autocorrect stays.
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Mar 3, 2023 18:27
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Triangle of Sadness is...fine, it's fine They clearly had Woody Harrelson for two days but I feel like they got their money's worth because the movie really peaks in the middle
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Mar 3, 2023 18:35
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Punkin Spunkin posted:Yeah I appreciated it mostly because of Blanchett's performance but it is really one of those situations where classical music and its references are a signifier or fetish for some people that indicates something is inherently "intellectual". It's a fine movie, it is well directed and I was interested in what Todd Field had done after all these years, overall kinda tedious. Or, just maybe, the movie frames it in a way that makes you question whether the people saying those things are intellectual or not? I don’t know, I took tons of music classes etc. including learning to conduct through high school and college, but the opening scene of the interview with her just screams “this is pathetic intellectual-high-brow ‘we’re so much better than you commoners who don’t understand what we’re saying’” energy. What they’re saying is all (or mostly) “right,” and they’re speaking about genuine musical opinions etc., but I can’t watch that long interview and think “this movie thinks the character talking about this is actually cool and good.” I was honestly waiting for the reveal that she was getting fed the talking points through an earpiece, the way she was speaking. I had a ton of fun watching it through that lens, didn’t find it stuck up at all, just making fun of the self seriousness of high academia and arts, without degrading the art itself (the music). GonSmithe fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Mar 3, 2023 |
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Mar 3, 2023 18:40
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thats how I saw it too ( I don't know jack poo poo about classical music ) it seemed to be poking fun at the new yorker readers and people who take themselves too seriously in general there the movie kinda plays out like an easter egg hunt which made it fun to watch for me. but i did basically miss all the composer references
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Mar 3, 2023 18:50
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Baron von Eevl posted:What I've heard - from people who had been involved in Soviet bureaucracy themselves - was that the biggest mistake the show made was having bureaucrats threaten the scientists, or warn them about what would happen if they didn't get in line. You didn't have to make threats or explain it, everyone knew what would happen if you embarrassed the wrong person and everyone had to be very delicate in how they broached issues about things going very wrong. This would be correct if the show were made to only be consumed by ex members of the soviet bureaucracy. It wasn't though, was it?
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Mar 3, 2023 18:53
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GonSmithe posted:Or, just maybe, the movie frames it in a way that makes you question whether the people saying those things are intellectual or not?
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Mar 3, 2023 19:15
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I thought the opening interview seemed pretty normal and realistic. Like they're a bit obnoxious but not in a way that was... particularly interesting or notable. And I thought it was pretty clear that despite all her awfulness Tar was being presented as very talented and having an impressive vision. If she's just a joke, I think that would be painting all the people who get swept up following her in an oddly insulting light.
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Mar 3, 2023 19:45
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It's a pretty damning depiction of the system (and the people in it) that allow people like her to not only rise to the top but stay there. I also really appreciate how it shows you how people like that can maintain a kind of internal separation - she doesn't want to acknowledge that what she's doing is monstrous, so we get to see all the ways she hides it from herself. It also gives us some of the best moments in the movie where we witness her utter self-absorption. I particularly liked the bit where she's bothered by the chime noise, so she tries (and fails) to turn it into a piece of music, and we later find out that it was the noise from one of the medical devices with the dying upstairs neighbor, which is just so perfect - she doesn't give a poo poo about the dying person, but you can totally see her being like "there was this aggravating noise but I turned it into a sonata!". And then the relatives are like "please stop playing music it's really loving annoying". The movie shits on her a lot and it's great.
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Mar 3, 2023 20:35
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I attempted to watch The Offer on Paramount+ (the show about the making of The Godfather), but I made it about 20 minutes while the first draft-tier dialogue just kept coming and coming. I am not even sure why this is a show and not a documentary.
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Mar 3, 2023 20:47
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Collateral posted:This would be correct if the show were made to only be consumed by ex members of the soviet bureaucracy. It wasn't though, was it? Why would having a different audience change how things worked at the tail end of the Soviet Union?
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Mar 3, 2023 23:42
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Baron von Eevl posted:Why would having a different audience change how things worked at the tail end of the Soviet Union? I think they meant having a different audience would change how you show how things worked in the Soviet Union. Us Americans need the threats to be explicit, Russians would understand the implicit threats
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Mar 4, 2023 00:37
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I liked Chernobyl but the last episode felt pretty unnecessary. The bit where Jared Harris breaks down the step by step process that led to the disaster is pretty good in an edutainment way but the show really didn't need a scene of him yelling about the failures of the system to the people overseeing the hearing. It was very perfunctory and the show got across it's themes just fine without it in the prior episodes.
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Mar 4, 2023 01:14
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The new Party Down is good but it feels like Martin Starr was working around other commitments when they shot it. He kind of just disappears halfway through the latest episode. Not as bad as season 4 of Arrested Development but something is going on.
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Mar 4, 2023 01:58
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Deadite posted:I think they meant having a different audience would change how you show how things worked in the Soviet Union. Us Americans need the threats to be explicit, Russians would understand the implicit threats Of course it's better story-telling that way, or at least more broadly accessible storytelling, but I was commenting only on it not being historically accurate.
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Mar 4, 2023 02:00
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martin starr is one of the main characters in the tulsa king show, maybe he was doing that. he canonically plays the same character he did in silicon valley and lives as a bitcoin thief / weed storefront owner
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Mar 4, 2023 02:28
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Flying Zamboni posted:I liked Chernobyl but the last episode felt pretty unnecessary. The bit where Jared Harris breaks down the step by step process that led to the disaster is pretty good in an edutainment way but the show really didn't need a scene of him yelling about the failures of the system to the people overseeing the hearing. It was very perfunctory and the show got across it's themes just fine without it in the prior episodes. Craig Mazin likes needless exposition. See: the opening of TLOU
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Mar 4, 2023 03:03
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I wanna thank whoever recommended I May Destroy You. Uhh as a man this is pretty eye opening stuff. It’s one thing to read about what sexual assault is like for a woman but it’s very different to see it play out over the course of a series. Currently halfway through.
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Mar 4, 2023 10:56
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Martman posted:I thought the opening interview seemed pretty normal and realistic. Like they're a bit obnoxious but not in a way that was... particularly interesting or notable. And I thought it was pretty clear that despite all her awfulness Tar was being presented as very talented and having an impressive vision. If she's just a joke, I think that would be painting all the people who get swept up following her in an oddly insulting light. Like I said at the end of my post, the thing I liked the most is that the movie critiques her without critiquing the music. I would argue the she’s presented as “clearly talented” part, though. I don’t think it’s presented as cut-and-dry talented as you might, I personally think the movie goes out of its way to prove she is probably a good composer but propped up further than she should be. She is a monster who thinks she can get away with whatever she wants because she is a high-brow elite and the people who enable her are more worried about going down in history as someone important in the music world than dealing with the horrible poo poo she is doing. The victims are of course not at fault here; if academia is propping her up and ignoring all of her transgressions, it’s not their fault for viewing her as such. GonSmithe fucked around with this message at 13:50 on Mar 4, 2023 |
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Mar 4, 2023 13:43
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The Consultant is pretty fun if you enjoy Christoph Waltz being creepy.
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Mar 5, 2023 00:57
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I can report that unsurprisingly, bringing most of the gang back for season 3 of Picard did nothing to improve the writing, which remains embarrassing. Raffi might also be one of the worst characters in TV history, and has yet to serve any purpose this season. Watching actors I know are good fight their way through terrible dialogue by overacting it is also painful.
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Name Change posted:I can report that unsurprisingly, bringing most of the gang back for season 3 of Picard did nothing to improve the writing, which remains embarrassing. Raffi might also be one of the worst characters in TV history, and has yet to serve any purpose this season. Watching actors I know are good fight their way through terrible dialogue by overacting it is also painful. The writing is garbo but it's WAY more watchable and entertaining than the last 2 seasons.
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Mar 5, 2023 01:41
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I recently watched S1 of Fringe when I was seeking something X-Filesesque and it is that...if Mulder and Scully didn't have personalities and every case was some variation of "government did a bio weapon". The dad is pretty charming though! They also did that thing where the network cared so little about it they have the big season finale as the second to last episode and the final episode is just a random case. Does it get better? Does it find a voice? Do they have any episodes half as funny as the time Mulder finds a literal three-wishes-granting genie?
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Mar 5, 2023 03:51
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It's charming if you can get into it. See if you can spot the hidden observers!
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Wolfsheim posted:They also did that thing where the network cared so little about it they have the big season finale as the second to last episode and the final episode is just a random case. I don't recall this at all tbh. Which episode? Because it's definitely not the first season finale, that's got a big villain confrontation and everything. There was a lot of funky poo poo throughout though -- Fringe was a show that had an awful lot of network interference, often for the worse. They write in a character that was meant to replace the lead, but then decide they don't want to do that and just drop the character very early into Season Two. There's an episode towards the end of Season Two that was originally meant to air super early on in the season, and its new context renders it completely inexplicable as a result. One finale is a complete hail mary plot that never gets resolved; the following season just acts like it never happened (though they reuse the concept for a different plotline later on in the show). One of the regulars talked somewhere about how she'd never do a show like it again because she felt so undeserved by the scripts. etc. etc. etc. Lots of dumb stuff, basically. That said, there are some decent episodes throughout, though there's never really the string of quality standalones equivalent to the stuff that The X-Files managed to regularly knock out (except... maybe early season three?). And I found that Anna Torv's performance as Olivia really grew on me. It's not a super complex show, but it's fun enough if you want to turn your brain off for a while. Inspector Hound posted:It's charming if you can get into it. See if you can spot the hidden observers! Yeah, this, basically.
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Mar 5, 2023 04:50
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Open Source Idiom posted:I don't recall this at all tbh. Which episode? Because it's definitely not the first season finale, that's got a big villain confrontation and everything. Maybe it's just an HBO streaming error, because there is a very clear build up to a big finale where Olivia ends up chilling in the World Trade Center with Leonard Nimoy and then immediately after that the actual final S1 episode is a case-of-the-week where an evil naval officer possesses a teenage girl. I just assumed they aired it out of order originally and HBO didn't care enough to 'fix' it
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Mar 5, 2023 05:23
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It’s weird old network TV scheduling business. Fox ordered 21 episodes then only gave them 20 timeslots so they made one extra episode but didn’t air it during the first season. Then they aired it randomly halfway through the second season.
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Mar 5, 2023 05:43
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smackfu posted:It’s weird old network TV scheduling business. Fox ordered 21 episodes then only gave them 20 timeslots so they made one extra episode but didn’t air it during the first season. Then they aired it randomly halfway through the second season. Googling for other shows screwed over by networks led me to TVTropes, as I should have expected. There were a lot of shows whose orders were messed up by network execs not noticing or caring that people were tuning in week after week to watch a show instead of like the old days where viewers happened to catch their favorite shows in when the stars aligned and they happened to be home. No one noticed continuity errors in Seinfeld, but when relationships regressed in character dramas, that was different. And then there was the unexpected stuff like episodes being shunted off to next season because a football game went overtime. We should count ourselves lucky those episodes eventually aired. These days they'd be buried in a vault because showing them would mean paying the actors.
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Mar 5, 2023 06:32
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The Chris Rock thing was allright, but the dude is clearly way past his prime. He hosed up his finale joke and had to backpedal and repeat half of it. Lots of repeating stuff throughout the whole thing tbh. Also content wise, it's just what you'd expect out of a grumpy dude in his late 50's.
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Mar 5, 2023 09:42
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LifeLynx posted:Googling for other shows screwed over by networks led me to TVTropes, as I should have expected. There were a lot of shows whose orders were messed up by network execs not noticing or caring that people were tuning in week after week to watch a show instead of like the old days where viewers happened to catch their favorite shows in when the stars aligned and they happened to be home. No one noticed continuity errors in Seinfeld, but when relationships regressed in character dramas, that was different. And then there was the unexpected stuff like episodes being shunted off to next season because a football game went overtime. Yeah this mentality lasted a while even as more serialized forms took hold. I recall that the first season of Happy Endings and the entirety of Don't Trust the B in Apt. 23 both got hit by networks insisting they be aired out of order.
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Mar 5, 2023 10:11
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veni veni veni posted:The Chris Rock thing was allright, but the dude is clearly way past his prime. He hosed up his finale joke and had to backpedal and repeat half of it. Lots of repeating stuff throughout the whole thing tbh. Also content wise, it's just what you'd expect out of a grumpy dude in his late 50's. Did he say funny things about being slapped by another aging actor/comedian though?
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Mar 5, 2023 10:16
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Why is Charlie immortal in Poker Face? It makes it way less interesting........
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Mar 5, 2023 15:00
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Show's honestly kinda hosed if she dies. It's like, about her.
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mcmagic posted:Why is Charlie immortal in Poker Face? It makes it way less interesting........ TychoCelchuuu posted:Show's honestly kinda hosed if she dies. It's like, about her. Yeah obviously if she's gone the show doesn't exist but I agree that especially this week they went out of their way to repeatedly injure her in ways that would either kill her or leave her heavily injured. Like.... Multiple times this week
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