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The Wild Man of YOLO posted:https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1632514319408680961?t=9t-RSXosovIbf3TCoV4hPQ&s=19 The plus side of AI taking over is that guys like this will be the first to go.
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Some bullets on the combine - JSN should probably be above Addison at this point. I saw the numbers on JSN that confirm what I think makes him work. Kind of don’t give a poo poo if the guy with chronic hamstring issues runs the 40 if he can run that 3 cone and also had the jumps he did. - Dawand tested very big and very not explosive. I think he’s a good RT prospect who has just enough technique to make it work but if he loses 20 pounds he’s gonna a problem. - Nolan Smith is a Rorschach test. He doesn’t have a position in the nfl, but you can give him a set of responsibilities and jobs and he’ll execute them. Please don’t let like the Ravens or 49ers have him.
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Mar 6, 2023 06:39
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kiimo posted:A normal, everyday physical. He got lucky he didnt make it to the next test. https://youtu.be/AfKFpaAJYlI
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Mar 6, 2023 09:25
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Went in for my 6 month check-up on Monday, got my ankle hosed up real good.
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TheGreyGhost posted:
Well, the Ravens' pick is 22nd, while the Niners don't pick until the third round, so I kinda doubt either of those happen
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Mar 6, 2023 12:54
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Player won't do the ladder test, commitment to the team is uncertain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kl2Z9tgg8xY
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Mar 6, 2023 16:02
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Gonz posted:https://twitter.com/joshnorris/status/1632200066176778240?s=46&t=GxZoSKgPzb_-zyUnvLFKvg I love these because every single time it’s like only 5 guys have ever been faster/bigger/higher jumping and every time they all sucked rear end
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Mar 6, 2023 16:28
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Scheffler and Cameron were ok!
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Mar 6, 2023 16:30
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I;m thinkin about those Strouds
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Mar 6, 2023 16:31
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Titans shopping Henry, cut Dupree, and now may be heading towards drafting a QB. Picks and Henry to Bears for a shot at Stroud hmmmm
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Mar 6, 2023 18:03
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god Fields and Henry in the same backfield lol.
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Mar 6, 2023 18:12
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How much would Detroit or Seattle have to trade to get up to #1 via Chicago or #3 via Arizona?
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Mar 6, 2023 18:26
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Whole lot of smoke about the Colts being in on Anthony Richardson. I can talk myself into it if they get him at 4, but I absolutely do not want them trading up to get him.
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Mar 6, 2023 18:29
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Ornery and Hornery posted:How much would Detroit or Seattle have to trade to get up to #1 via Chicago or #3 via Arizona? For Bears to trade the #1 overall pick to a division rival, it would need to be the Herschel Walker trade plus Hutchinson and St. Brown.
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Ornery and Hornery posted:How much would Detroit or Seattle have to trade to get up to #1 via Chicago or #3 via Arizona? It's lying szn but...Poles said this to Peter King. quote:Poles spoke softly but urgently in 50 minutes. He was supportive of quarterback Justin Fields, saying “we’ve got to see it through” in giving Fields a chance to be the team’s long-term starter. It’s clear he’s not trading Fields, and he’s not picking a quarterback high in this draft. He left little doubt the Bears will trade the first overall pick and said he’d spoken to three teams at the Combine about a deal. (He wouldn’t identify them.) He said he had enough conversations about a deal to know in swapping first-round picks this year he can get “a ’24 one and a ’25 one” in a major package for a trade. However far down he goes in the draft this year, Poles wants to be sure he gets a “blue player,” his term for a premier first-rounder—and there may be only six or eight of those when the Bears end up setting their board. and yeah, for Detroit to get it it'd have to be a larger surplus. Maybe an extra Second
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Mar 6, 2023 18:30
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Dexo posted:It's lying szn but... Hmmm good info. I was thinking it might be a lil less steep because seattle and Detroit both have two firsts this year to trade and they both have high 1sts.
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Ornery and Hornery posted:Hmmm good info. I was thinking it might be a lil less steep because seattle and Detroit both have two firsts this year to trade and they both have high 1sts. Detroit has shown a willingness to trade with a division rival and I don't feel like Poles would care so long as he was getting the best value.
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Mar 6, 2023 18:34
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There's no way the Bears are getting three 1sts from anyone in the top 5 this year, if they're getting that haul they're moving pretty far down.
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Here is a look at the QB trades since 2012 (https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2021/story/_/id/31173355/all-29-s-nfl-teams-traded-draft-quarterback):quote:1. Packers pull a surprise for Jordan Love (2020)
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Mar 6, 2023 18:36
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ShakeZula posted:There's no way the Bears are getting three 1sts from anyone in the top 5 this year, if they're getting that haul they're moving pretty far down. Yeah that's like Carolina/Falcons range. Or like Washinton. Edit: Caveat. If the Texans and Colts want the same person, some wild poo poo might happen.
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Mar 6, 2023 18:38
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wandler20 posted:Here is a look at the QB trades since 2012 (https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2021/story/_/id/31173355/all-29-s-nfl-teams-traded-draft-quarterback): Huh. A lot of the most relevant trades had way cheaper compensation than I was expecting.
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Mar 6, 2023 19:02
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That list of trades is pretty dire. But when it works, it WORKS. It's basically either total duds who are barely clinging on or have already washed out. Or the best QBs in the league. And then Goff sitting there in the middle causing chaos. Hopefully Watson stays in the washout category.
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Mar 6, 2023 19:15
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Seattle gonna trade with the bears for a modest haul of 2 firsts and 2 seconds. CJ Stroud first ballot HOF
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If you decide youre going to keep Fields, just keep trading with insanely desperate teams and stay in the top 10. Pick up firsts in 2024 and 2025, stay in top 10 for 2023, add tons of lottery tickets.
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The thing with fields is the Bears should do exactly what the Eagles did. Spend poo poo tons of money making a better team. And if Fields doesn't work out, guess what, you will have a poo poo ton of assets and then also be in a position to draft a QB next year. Hopefully Fields works out, but even if he doesn't The Bears are still in a good position, and then the next QB they have "theoretically" would have a solid nest. Built from the money you've spent this offseason, and the picks you've aquired. Eagles if Hurts didn't turn into what he did would have also been in a position to draft a QB this year, Hurts turned out to be great, and so now they can use their draft capital on other poo poo.
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Pretty much. The problem is unless you can pry away a WR from another team, there doesn't appear to be an AJ Brown available. Spending huge on this FA class feels like it'll end up closer to what the Pats surrounded Mac Jones with.
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Dexo posted:The thing with fields is the Bears should do exactly what the Eagles did. I binged a bunch of podcasts this weekend so they all run together but I think either Mays or ATN made this exact argument for why the Bears are set up really well right now
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Dexo posted:The thing with fields is the Bears should do exactly what the Eagles did. The 2021 Eagles had a baseline level of competence irregardless of Hurts' throwing ability that the Bears are far far away from. The Bears have a billion dollars in cap space, but no team can spend that much money in one off-season short of giving a Christian Kirk deal to literally everybody. Bears GM is going to have get creative to fill out the roster and the last interesting move he made was trading the 32nd overall pick for Chase Claypool
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:The 2021 Eagles had a baseline level of competence irregardless of Hurts' throwing ability that the Bears are far far away from. The Bears are a weird situation they aren't nearly as bad as they appear....well except the defensive front 7. Offensively They have shown that when people were healthy they can be decently potent. Wide Receivers, if they can somehow get a number one, it moves everyone down a slot Mooney and Claypool, as the 2 and 3 are a good enough crew. Just need to stay healthy. Offensive Line: They desperately need a RT(or LT more realistically and move Braxton) and Center. They have passable guards in Whitehair and Jenkins. I'd maybe also look for an upgrade to Whitehair. Defense, yeah gonna have to make it rain on lineman and linebackers, their secondary is solid enough considering their defensive line and front got negative pressure. But the defense was also a case where trading 2 players, and then EJax getting hurt turned it from an averagish defense to absolutely dire. If you look at the defensive numbers when they had Quinn(despite his lack of numbers, his effect of the defense when he was traded are glaring)and Smith. The Bears last year were a situation where they had like 1/3 of the cap in dead money, so then when everyone got traded or injured(also they clearly started tanking and putting anyone remotely dinged up on IR lol) they were just rolling out a practice squad. A couple of key players can be so powerful in the NFL. Like a number 1 WR or an elite pass rusher/lineman can make regular rear end players so much better because it changes the shape of a defense. And can create advantages for other players. Saw it with Mooney and Allen Robinson, Robinson, not even playing well, simply being on the field tilted the defense enough for Mooney to put up numbers. Vs when Mooney was the clear primary receiver. But shrug too much thinking about the Bears.
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Ornery and Hornery posted:How much would Detroit or Seattle have to trade to get up to #1 via Chicago or #3 via Arizona? The only way I see Detroit trading up is if Will Anderson somehow makes it to 5th and they can do a reasonable deal to swap places with Seattle. I'd sooner trade back, and if 1 of the 4 QB's is still there at 6 then I think there will be a chance to do so.
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What Bumhead said. The Lions are not moving up to 1 (or even 3). They’d have to give up an arm and a leg to do so, and they’ve got so many holes on defense that need to be patched up in the draft and free agency. They need a corner, a linebacker and an interior defensive lineman. Jalen Carter MIGHT fall to 6 after this past week.
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ShakeZula posted:Whole lot of smoke about the Colts being in on Anthony Richardson. I can talk myself into it if they get him at 4, but I absolutely do not want them trading up to get him. I'm pretty sure Stroud is their first choice and Richardson is number two. I think the real question is if they want to move up to grab one of them or feel comfortable if either are there at 4.
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Gonz posted:What Bumhead said. I don’t disagree with your conclusion but I do disagree that you’d have to give up an arm and a leg. It would be picks, for sure, but starting with the 6th overall I feel really helps. Lots of those trades listed early in the thread involved jumping from further back.
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wandler20 posted:Here is a look at the QB trades since 2012 (https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2021/story/_/id/31173355/all-29-s-nfl-teams-traded-draft-quarterback): Thank you for researching and posting this wandler20!!
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Kalli posted:Pretty much. The problem is unless you can pry away a WR from another team, there doesn't appear to be an AJ Brown available. Spending huge on this FA class feels like it'll end up closer to what the Pats surrounded Mac Jones with. Bears should honestly grab Hopkins. He’s expensive, but you’ve got fuckloads of cap space, and you desperately need a real WR to see if Fields can be a real QB vs the most exciting RB in the league. And whatever else you can say about Hopkins, that dude is incredible when he’s healthy
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Maybe the Bears could trade for a talented veteran receiver looking for a change of scenery, Allen Robinson
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The good and bad from Anthony Richardson. That Kentucky game is just  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZxb-OVe85c
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Relentlessboredomm posted:Bears should honestly grab Hopkins. He’s expensive, but you’ve got fuckloads of cap space, and you desperately need a real WR to see if Fields can be a real QB vs the most exciting RB in the league. And whatever else you can say about Hopkins, that dude is incredible when he’s healthy Honestly, when they trade down, just get JSN.
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