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Terper posted:I took this one and edited it, because: Aw poo poo I contributed a thread title what an honor. I've finally made it as poo poo poster thank you.
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goethe.cx posted:they're going to say "gently caress" in it
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Terper posted:Thinking of putting up a 16 thread this week since we're about to get more info soon, give me your thread title ideas FF16: Does your game have Active Time Lore? Darn, too late.
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Quick question about FF7 on Steam Deck: has anyone installed New Threat for FF7 on their Steam Deck? I’m kind of excited to play mods and randomizers on portable, and I have yet to try NT. I googled it and answers are kind of inconsistent, so I figured I’d ask here
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TheHoosier posted:Quick question about FF7 on Steam Deck: has anyone installed New Threat for FF7 on their Steam Deck? I’m kind of excited to play mods and randomizers on portable, and I have yet to try NT. I googled it and answers are kind of inconsistent, so I figured I’d ask here yes, although I don't go through that mod launcher, I just install the mod manually and then copy and paste the game directory over the one on my Deck. others may have used multiple mods in conjunction
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Weird Pumpkin posted:I dunno man.. the beard literally seduces you in FFXIV so it seems like it could be both.. Alright. I can settle for that.
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grieving for Gandalf posted:yes, although I don't go through that mod launcher, I just install the mod manually and then copy and paste the game directory over the one on my Deck. others may have used multiple mods in conjunction Thank you, I’ll give it a shot
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Clive is going to romance and gently caress every single dominant. The only loving Clive is down for is his loving revenge.
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clive will say do and be gently caress
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shadow the hedgehog is going to make a cameo and he's going to ask sephiroth what his loving problem is
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And then they'll gently caress.
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OhFunny posted:The only loving Clive is down for is his loving revenge. Was Tidus really the last non-MMO protagonist not out for revenge in some way? Vaan against the Empire, Lightning against... everything, Noctis against the Empire (but a different Empire, y'see). I guess if you include spin-offs then you'd add Serah.
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ApplesandOranges posted:Was Tidus really the last non-MMO protagonist not out for revenge in some way? Vaan against the Empire, Lightning against... everything, Noctis against the Empire (but a different Empire, y'see). Tidus absolutely wanted to punch his dad in the face
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ApplesandOranges posted:Was Tidus really the last non-MMO protagonist not out for revenge in some way? Vaan against the Empire, Lightning against... everything, Noctis against the Empire (but a different Empire, y'see). Vaan started off wanting revenge but chilled out on that desire over time just wanting to make things better for people in general. Him hanging around and mellowing out is a big reason Ashe finally eventually chills out herself and ultimately doesn't make a deal with a demon.
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YoshiOfYellow posted:Vaan started off wanting revenge but chilled out on that desire over time just wanting to make things better for people in general. Him hanging around and mellowing out is a big reason Ashe finally eventually chills out herself and ultimately doesn't make a deal with a demon. I find it funny that Ashe straight up never talks to Penelo in the entire game. Actually I think Penelo barely talks to anyone aside from Vaan and Larsa? She talks to Fran once at Ridorana, Basch at Arcadia (kinda), and Balthier just hands her his handkerchief. I don't think she even said two words to him at the time. She's not alone in limited interactions (I don't think Fran ever talks to Basch or Ashe), but for a main party member she really has little presence.
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The Kimahri of the group.
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Fran gives Ashe a few "this is a bad idea" comments.
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finally platted final bar line and also got an S-ultimate rank on that one big bridge remix two thumbs up, now i'll put it aside for whenever more song packs drop (such as the one later this week)
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Penelo is technically the best White Mage, she is not the Kimahri
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To be fair, the writers going "ah poo poo I forgot this guy was in the game" happens in basically every FF except like, uh, 14 and 15
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I mean, I forget Amarant is even a character in IX.
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Chillgamesh posted:To be fair, the writers going "ah poo poo I forgot this guy was in the game" happens in basically every FF except like, uh, 14 and 15 7 did a decent job. i'd say the most forgotten guy is vincent and he's at least optional
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goethe.cx posted:7 did a decent job. i'd say the most forgotten guy is vincent and he's at least optional the game kinda forgets red exists after cosmo canyon. i think his last major scene after that is the optional one where you get his ultimate weapon. i guess he can hold the black materia but meh
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He's the only guy in the final scene!
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Chillgamesh posted:the game kinda forgets red exists after cosmo canyon. i think his last major scene after that is the optional one where you get his ultimate weapon. i guess he can hold the black materia but meh There's probably some kind of argument between who gets more forgotten - the character who gets most of their storyline in an the early part of the game (Red XIII, Lulu, Freya), or who gets it in the later part (Kimahri, Amarant).
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FF4: Rosa, I guess? She helps Rydia get over her fear and I like the "you idiots thought you could leave us behind" moment at the end, but she doesn't really do much in-between except get kidnapped. FF5: I'd say nobody. Everyone gets their part. FF6: Umaro/Gogo/Mog? Are we counting intentionally shallow optional characters? A lot of the others are very much not in the spotlight when it's not their turn to be in the spotlight, but that's in part because of the World of Ruin's gimmick making it unclear who's going to be around for which parts. FF7: Vincent FF8: I'm not familiar enough with this game to comment. FF9: Amarant, Quina's shallow but there, Freya kinda runs out of things to do once her kingdom's sacked, Eiko is also big for one part and then just tagging along because friendship. FF10: Kimhari FF12: Penelo. People complain about Vaan stepping out of the spotlight while we still think of him as the Main Character because he's who we control in towns (we're wrong, he hands that role off to Ashe with a "my character growth is done, it's your turn" speech at Jahara, but it's easy to get distracted), but Penelo doesn't even get that. FF13: again, not familiar enough with the game FF15: if we're counting the DLC everyone at least gets a turn, outside of that... everyone's at least on camera and HAS a character.
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11: Galka Batman 14: angry, cursing lalafell. Any of em
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Bruceski posted:FF4: Rosa, I guess? She helps Rydia get over her fear and I like the "you idiots thought you could leave us behind" moment at the end, but she doesn't really do much in-between except get kidnapped. FF8: Quistis disappears as a character after disc 1. FF13: I’d say Sazh gets less and less to do as the game goes on.
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Bruceski posted:FF6: Umaro/Gogo/Mog? Are we counting intentionally shallow optional characters? A lot of the others are very much not in the spotlight when it's not their turn to be in the spotlight, but that's in part because of the World of Ruin's gimmick making it unclear who's going to be around for which parts. FF6; I'd probably say Gau, considering he's a forced recruit. His section is fairly minor and then he's just there until an optional quest in World of Ruin that isn't very meaty unlike say Shadow. I see a lot of similar complaints about Freya, but I think it's more that her arc just more or less feeds into Amarant's, whose screentime is fairly selective and largely confined to ATEs. What might have helped would be if Zidane also took her to track down Amarant at Ipsen's Castle. HD DAD posted:FF8: Quistis disappears as a character after disc 1. I think Quistis is just a consequence of FF8 just cutting kneecapping development for anyone not named Squall or Laguna after Disc 2. If you look at the first 2 Discs as a separate section from Discs 3+4, she gets decent content for the first half, and then Disc 2 is more of a Selphie/Zell show.
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Irvine has enough scattered moments from when he joins to the end of Disc 2 (choking on the mission, trying to cheer up Selphie, orphanage twist). He doesn't really have a major leader section like Zell with Balamb or Selphie's Missile Base, but he's not invisible. As much as we all wish he was.
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I think Quistis has special dialogue if you take her to space and also have her in your party when you return to the Orpahanage after rescuing Rinoa. Just my memory from using her in one of my VIII runs. But really, every non-Squall party members has their arcs killed off after Disk 1. I've brought up Rinoa frequently enough about this, about her relationship with her father having zero resolution. After Disk 1 she simply exists to be Squall's Love Interest. Even becoming a Sorceress is for Squall's character arc, not her own.
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goethe.cx posted:shadow the hedgehog is going to make a cameo and he's going to ask sephiroth what his loving problem is 
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Where's that drat fourth Chaos guardian.
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NikkolasKing posted:I think Quistis has special dialogue if you take her to space and also have her in your party when you return to the Orpahanage after rescuing Rinoa. Just my memory from using her in one of my VIII runs. The bulk of Selphie's content is in Disc 2 and the Balamb return is very heavily Zell. Even Irvine has his moments, so it's really just Quistis. Rinoa's role after Disc 2 isn't great but they do give her enough interactions with some other characters that she's not 100% dependent on Squall to have a personality. Her line in the flashback about how Squall would say 'nobody ordered me to escape so I'm staying here' is gold. Sure her storyline is heavily dependent on Squall, but honestly that's a lot of female protagonists before Garnet. Like 90% of Tifa's content is based around Cloud. Rosa is heavily dependent on Cecil and Kain. And the bulk of Celes' content revolves around Locke.
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goethe.cx posted:shadow the hedgehog is going to make a cameo and he's going to ask sephiroth what his loving problem is Remake is going to change gaming forever For the better
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was noctis out for revenge, or was he out to save his fiance, country, and eventually planet?
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VostokProgram posted:was noctis out for revenge, or was he out to save his fiance, country, and eventually planet? Revenge for Jared
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The most chill revenge story of all time. I can't believe my father is dead, my kingdom conquered.... How about we go fishing?
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VostokProgram posted:was noctis out for revenge, or was he out to save his fiance, country, and eventually planet? I mean, yes? Noctis is clearly very interested in taking the fight to the Niflheim Empire- and his desire to just kill as many Imperial Soldiers and other associated folk as he can plant his myriad weapons into only grows more and more intense over the course of the game- but he also understands his single best avenue of doing that is finishing the trials of the king and gaining the power of the undisputed monarch to reclaim Insomnia and protect his friends and subjects. His main goal is achieving A) through B), I guess? (The Planet part comes more later, when Noctis comes to realize this Isn't That Kind of Story and has to drastically change his goals in order to avoid more or less the end of sentient life on Eos.)
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