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Ynglaur posted:gently caress YEAH Finally, it’s taken so long.
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Spiffster posted:I want in on this Spiffster posted:I can change to indicted to keep it all on a level playing field if you want. I was always told editing Toxx was a big no no so I didn’t touch it I need a charity for Ukraine if you all don’t mind. I’ve never been happier to lose a toxx Edit: lol 9 months since I posted this! it’s a bouncing baby indictment
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Trump will not be arrested. If he is, 25 to a Ukraine charity or I will eat a ban 
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Spiffster posted:I need a charity for Ukraine if you all don’t mind. I’ve never been happier to lose a toxx The Ukraine charity thread should give you plenty of options.
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Mirotic posted:The Ukraine charity thread should give you plenty of options. Forgot that was there! Thank you Added extra to cover transaction fees and any weirdness for dollars to euros 
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What a wonderful development. Turns out there really was hope all along. Can't wait for Fani and Jack to catch up and start tossing the indictments around, but this is an historic beginning and I will take it. I think I want to watch FOX News.
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Even though I expected him to get indicted I never really expected to see him get indicted. Pretty cool. Yes I know that is contradictory.
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Indicted for the Stormy Daniels payment of all things. On a scale of 1 to 'Al Capone did tax evasion' where does this land?
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Bloody Pom posted:Indicted for the Stormy Daniels payment of all things. On a scale of 1 to 'Al Capone did tax evasion' where does this land? CNN is saying 30 business fraud charges, so it sounds like more than just Stormy Daniels but I don't know.
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Killer robot posted:CNN is saying 30 business fraud charges, so it sounds like more than just Stormy Daniels but I don't know. Oh I mean I figure that there's a lot more charges on the way, but I just find it funny that the news outlets decided to go with that particular thing.
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Killer robot posted:CNN is saying 30 business fraud charges, so it sounds like more than just Stormy Daniels but I don't know. Number of charges doesn't necessarily mean there were many other instances of the offense. Some laws are just written that way. You can download a torrent of a single zip file with a bunch of pictures in it and catch 300 charges of copyright infringement or possession of child porn.
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Boris Galerkin posted:does this mean hes going to jail or He will make a big show of the revolving door rich folks get to do when they get in trouble. Trump's being "indicted" while regular people just get fuckin' thrown in jail. He'll be out on bail in 2 seconds and they'll set a 2057 date for his trial. Yep, it's me, the cynic. Cool that we even made it this far, though. I didn't think they would do it. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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I enjoy that the whole point of paying off Stormy Daniels in the first place was to keep the fact that Trump had an affair out of the public eye. He got very poor value for money there.
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Lucasar posted:I enjoy that the whole point of paying off Stormy Daniels in the first place was to keep the fact that Trump had an affair out of the public eye. He got very poor value for money there. Wait wait wait. Wait. Are you telling me that Trump made a...bad deal?! Man I gotta sit down.
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Boris Galerkin posted:does this mean hes going to jail or Fine and probation seems likely for this type of crime. It's relatively small potatoes compared to the other stuff in the docket. Maybe they'll sentence him to community service. Let him serve soup to homeless people for six months.
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Boris Galerkin posted:does this mean hes going to jail or lol no, this isn't even the beginning of the start of the introduction to the foreword. Trump has money. This is going to be years of motions, delays, arguments, appeals. Justice doesn't happen to the rich.
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Deteriorata posted:Fine and probation seems likely for this type of crime. It's relatively small potatoes compared to the other stuff in the docket. You've read the indictment? I really doubt the Manhattan DA's office decided they'd like to risk their health and safety to nail the president for a minor fine and some community service. But hey, keep the dream alive. Grip it and rip it fucked around with this message at 05:01 on Mar 31, 2023 |
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Grip it and rip it posted:You've read the indictment? https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/03/30/donald-trump-indictment-what-it-means/?itid=hp-top-table-high_p002_f002 quote:Could Trump go to jail? Whatever, dude. Rage on. I fully expect Trump to spend some time in jail, just not for this particular charge.
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Deteriorata posted:https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/03/30/donald-trump-indictment-what-it-means/?itid=hp-top-table-high_p002_f002 That person opened up their article by saying they have no idea what the actual charges are, so they're basically talking out of their rear end about the entire thing. There is nothing "usual" about a President being charged with a crime in state court, let alone 30+ counts. Nobody has seen the indictment as it's still under seal, so nobody has any idea exactly what he's going to be dealing with other than the DA's office. I can tell you that DA's don't enjoy trying difficult cases, doubly so if they're politically sensitive, so I doubt that this is going to be some run of the mill case. Every DA in that office is about to get targeted by the Right Wing hate machine and their lives are going to be turned upside down to one degree or another. That's not a scenario that they would undertake without a significant reason for doing so, in my estimation.
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I hope they try to repeat the number 17 as much as possible in the charging documents. Just really gently caress with any remaining Q people.
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Grip it and rip it posted:That person opened up their article by saying they have no idea what the actual charges are, so they're basically talking out of their rear end about the entire thing. There is nothing "usual" about a President being charged with a crime in state court, let alone 30+ counts. Nobody has seen the indictment as it's still under seal, so nobody has any idea exactly what he's going to be dealing with other than the DA's office. I can tell you that DA's don't enjoy trying difficult cases, doubly so if they're politically sensitive, so I doubt that this is going to be some run of the mill case. Every DA in that office is about to get targeted by the Right Wing hate machine and their lives are going to be turned upside down to one degree or another by this case. That's not a scenario that they would undertake without a significant reason for doing so, in my experience. It's not a huge mystery. Lawyers have been analyzing this case for years and the possibilities for what crimes were committed are pretty well understood. It's state-level campaign finance violations for this one. The actual hush payments aren't that big of a deal. As usual, it's the coverup - resulting in fraudulent business filings. Those are often prosecuted but few people ever go to jail for them. Perhaps he ordered the murders of 16 nuns along the way that nobody knows about. That would certainly be a surprise no one has heard anything about and would bump up the seriousness of the charges. Based on what is known about the case thus far, though, jail seems an unlikely outcome. There isn't any real point in arguing about it. We'll know for sure next week. I'm speculating based on what is known, you're speculating based on what is unknown. I think I'm on firmer grounding, but we'll have to see. The J6, Georgia, and classified documents cases are likely much more serious.
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Xiahou Dun posted:I hope they try to repeat the number 17 as much as possible in the charging documents. They’re still out there, unfortunately. One of my co-workers is Full QAnon and I expect he’ll be absolutely insufferable for the next week or so.
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Xiahou Dun posted:I hope they try to repeat the number 17 as much as possible in the charging documents. 17 x 2 (for the second term and second president to have non-consecutive terms) = 34. 34 indictments against him by the illegal NYDA team and BarfBag Bragg. But they can't arrest your favorite (YES, FAVORITE) President because of a special rule for business owners in the great state of New York. Search up 'Trump Rule 34' to find out more, and make sure to donate!
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Cpt. Mahatma Gandhi posted:They’re still out there, unfortunately. One of my co-workers is Full QAnon and I expect he’ll be absolutely insufferable for the next week or so. How do you even deal with something like that at work?
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MrMojok posted:How do you even deal with something like that at work? You either see them fired, or watch the contagion spread.
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I say,as I embark on a high profile legal campaign to fail to gently caress over a single company for explicitly political reasons.
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Out of curiosity, has George Soros ever responded to the many, many public officials and organizations who have said (tacitly or otherwise) that he's behind all these conspiracies?
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Shooting Blanks posted:Out of curiosity, has George Soros ever responded to the many, many public officials and organizations who have said (tacitly or otherwise) that he's behind all these conspiracies? Yes, a couple times- he has a general response of "I am glad I/my organizations are taking positions that upset these people." Soros has never done many interviews that weren't tightly controlled, even before he was in his 90s. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 08:14 on Mar 31, 2023 |
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Killer robot posted:CNN is saying 30 business fraud charges, so it sounds like more than just Stormy Daniels but I don't know. It's conceivable each payment Trump made to Cohen is a separate charge. As far as I recall he structured the payments to Cohen for the McDougal and Daniels payoffs, but I don't remember how many payments there actually were.
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Deteriorata posted:Fine and probation seems likely for this type of crime. It's relatively small potatoes compared to the other stuff in the docket. The best most wonderful soup in all of history. Many people are eating it with tears in their eyes and saying "Thank you, Mr. President"
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V-Men posted:It's conceivable each payment Trump made to Cohen is a separate charge. As far as I recall he structured the payments to Cohen for the McDougal and Daniels payoffs, but I don't remember how many payments there actually were. I would be surprised if there isn’t at least one obstruction charge in there. You know he tried to hide or erase some piece of information.
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Ravenfood posted:I say,as I embark on a high profile legal campaign to fail to gently caress over a single company for explicitly political reasons. I would like to believe that explicitly referencing a nazi conspiracy theory would end a presidential campaign right then and there. But, this is America. V-Men posted:It's conceivable each payment Trump made to Cohen is a separate charge. As far as I recall he structured the payments to Cohen for the McDougal and Daniels payoffs, but I don't remember how many payments there actually were. I only think there was a handful of payments to Daniels, so unless it's a separate charge for each stage of the scheme? Cohen fraudulently invoices Trump, which Trumps knows of. Then Trump paying Cohen is a separate charge?
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I saw my unhinged neighbor and her husband (who was wearing a red had) frantically clean out their van and throw luggage in it and leave last night. Any word on where the crazies are going to protest?
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Alterian posted:I saw my unhinged neighbor and her husband (who was wearing a red had) frantically clean out their van and throw luggage in it and leave last night. Any word on where the crazies are going to protest? I would think either Mar-a-Lago or NYC,. but that is just a straight up guess.
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That's what I am assuming. I just didn't know if anyone heard of any "official" gathering location. She was at January 6th. I want to keep an eye on to see if she does anything that I can tell the feds who she is and where she lives.
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Alterian posted:That's what I am assuming. I just didn't know if anyone heard of any "official" gathering location. She was at January 6th. I want to keep an eye on to see if she does anything that I can tell the feds who she is and where she lives. Are you FB friends? Not too late to fire up the old account, send her a friend request, and then turn supergrass
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We've had one run in with them already so I doubt she would friend me on facebook. She used to post a lot more publically about all her craziness, but keeps most of it private since she attempted to run for county sheriff in our very large, not rural county. Our kids were bickering outside one day like kids do and I think my kid told her kid his mom was lazy. She stormed over with one of her flying monkey friends freaking out on my husband about how she is NOT lazy, she is VERY SMART and what an amazing neighbor she is. She didn't know my husband's name because this is the first time she has been over to our house to interact. We are also both professors so I doubt she would friend us for that alone.
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I'm a rando on the internet and I think setting the precedent of indictment is the bigger deal and part of why this one happened first. Thanks for reading!
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Guest2553 posted:I'm a rando on the internet and I think setting the precedent of indictment is the bigger deal and part of why this one happened first. Hell, maybe, but I'm not sure that kind of idealism would carry out the day when you're dealing with a case of this magnitude and profile. There is a reason that Trump has evaded charges up until now. I'm sure the reasons are diverse, but the ideal of "setting the precedent that the (ex) President is not above (state) law would have been present at numerous other opportunities. But I don't have any special insight into this thing so we will have to wait and see. Its entirely possible that the Manhattan DA office is already bungling this thing and all we will get to witness is them crapping the bed, but I hope that's not the case
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