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Disney duct taping anakin's saber back together in TROS was truly stupid.
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Grendels Dad posted:Just the laziest poo poo. They could have thrown maybe one thing in there that we hadn't already seen before. It's not like they don't have any background material to draw from, this just makes it sound like "Yeah, I personally know many actors... that guy, and that guy!" Xenomrph posted:Edit— it’d have made more sense if it was Luke’s green saber anyway. Instead of Rey saying to Luke” hey remember this saber you lost when your dad cut off your hand 40 years ago?” it’d have been something more along the lines of “this is a thing you created and had a personal connection to, why did you forsake it?”
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Apr 13, 2023 21:54
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Mantis42 posted:metacommentary is lame, no one wants that Sometimes it's all we have left!
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Apr 13, 2023 22:12
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Schwarzwald posted:This is some improper punctuation away from being a dril tweet. It has a comma splice.
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Apr 13, 2023 22:18
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No Mods No Masters posted:Yeah, seems important, it might have been interesting to see how that conversation went down. Maybe put that in the movie It's in phantom menace. All the convos btw Qui gon and Anakin are important to pay attention to!
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Apr 13, 2023 22:23
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Robot Style posted:I think they did it to make Kylo seem more redeemable. The comic didn't just make the Knights of Ren a random pre-existing group he joined, it also reduced his total Jedi kill count to 1. Somehow, the Disney Star Wars universe finds a way to be dumber than the old Star Wars Extended Universe.
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Apr 13, 2023 22:26
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Ghost Leviathan posted:I dunno about Anakin's fall being 'sudden' given he literally massacres a tribe down to the last child in Ep II. He's already a murderer on the path to the Dark Side before the opening shots of the Clone Wars, and said wars if anything at least give him an outlet for his violence, if getting him- and the other jedi- more and more used to it. Don't forget the million or so droids he kill-switches over Naboo.
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Apr 13, 2023 22:29
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No Mods No Masters posted:This might just be hearsay I've picked up from the constant posting fracas, but I've heard it said the lore is, han ended up with it somehow and pawned it off to maz for drinking money That was Luke's Yavin medal, in order to retcon it so that the one Maz gave Chewie wasn't the same one that Leia had when she died. The lightsaber initially had a bit more explanation, though not much. There were some early rumors that were later confirmed by Mark Hamill that the original idea for the start of the movie was that after the opening crawl, instead of revealing a starship, the camera would see Luke's lightsaber and severed hand floating through space (no explanation for that though) before it fell towards a planet. The hand burned up on entry, and the lightsaber crashed in a field, where it was picked up by an alien who accidentally started a brushfire with it when they turned it on. I think there was also going to be a montage of the alien selling the lightsaber to a trader, who was then killed by the Knights of Ren, with the saber finally being stolen from the Knights by Maz. Some of that might have been in an extended version of the flashback Rey gets when she first touches the weapon - the Cloud City hallway actually would have led to a portion of the actual duel being represented (presumably with the severing of the hand), with an actor named Robert Boulter standing in for Luke: 
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Apr 13, 2023 22:59
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Next time, try not to lose it. This weapon is your life.
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Apr 13, 2023 23:06
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that would have been stupid. like, what, is his arm fitted with a lightspeed engine? it would take literally millions of years to float to another planet from bespin.
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Apr 13, 2023 23:15
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Mantis42 posted:that would have been stupid. like, what, is his arm fitted with a lightspeed engine? it would take literally millions of years to float to another planet from bespin. It's such a typical JJ star wars is fantasy thing it's scarcely even worth commenting on. I would put down money he said "it's like the one ring" at some point in the life cycle of that idea
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Apr 13, 2023 23:22
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That one isn't JJs fault. I'm definitely the person to get pissy about Lightspeed Skipping, but space is only so big in Star Wars; the Millennium Falcon didn't even have a working hyperdrive at the time it reached Bespin yet the Imperials couldn't figure out that it might go there. Maybe that solar system has like 40 inhabited planets.
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Apr 13, 2023 23:25
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Would've been a better opening than what we got imo
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Apr 13, 2023 23:25
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Bet the first thing Rey did when she got ownership of the Falcon was give it a robust working hyperdrive (Chewie throws his hands up and goes THANK GOD) 'course it still burst into flames from the skipping, but that's Poe's fault
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Apr 13, 2023 23:30
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Mantis42 posted:that would have been stupid. like, what, is his arm fitted with a lightspeed engine? it would take literally millions of years to float to another planet from bespin. Not to mention that it’s far more likely it would have fallen out of the city and fallen into Bespin, lost forever. Frankly that’s the story I’m more interested in, how did the lightsaber get off of Cloud City in the first place. How it gets from whatever point that is to Maz is trivially easy to handwave, it’s the jump from Cloud City to that mystery point B that deserves explanation. Which wouldn’t even be necessary if they’d gone with Luke’s green saber, which as mentioned is more thematically appropriate and the “chain of custody” is a lot easier to handwave.
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Apr 13, 2023 23:30
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Canonically the hand ended up on Exegol and was used to create Snoke, but thus far they haven't explained how it got there either, or what happened to the lightsaber itself.
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Apr 13, 2023 23:39
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:That one isn't JJs fault. I'm definitely the person to get pissy about Lightspeed Skipping, but space is only so big in Star Wars; the Millennium Falcon didn't even have a working hyperdrive at the time it reached Bespin yet the Imperials couldn't figure out that it might go there. According to the old RPG, which was the first place to try and figure this out, here's the Bespin system:  And here's its relation to Hoth: quote:The Bespin system is located just off the Corellian Trade Spine and at the head of the Ison Corridor. So more or less, they could've hosed off to Correllia for all anyone knew. But importantly, the Imperials could figure out that they might go there. They arrived before the Falcon. feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 23:48 on Apr 13, 2023 |
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Apr 13, 2023 23:43
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Some sources have established that the Falcon had a low-speed backup hyperdrive that it used to limp to Bespin, but the trip took anywhere from a few weeks to a few months, depending on how long each person thinks is believable for Han & Leia to get to "I love you" and for Luke to spend training with Yoda.
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Apr 13, 2023 23:52
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It was basically a huge mistake to make that lightsaber important at all.
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Apr 13, 2023 23:57
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I didn't even know lightsabers had different hilts until I played that Fallen Order game and there were like 30 variations of it I mean I knew Dooku had the weird curves handle ones but I thought his was special and the rest were all the same until Kylo Ren's junky one
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Apr 14, 2023 01:57
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I think you're forgetting a big one. I'm pretty sure one of the original Episode One trailers could have just been the words "2 bladed lightsaber" and kids would have still lost their poo poo. ...and now I'm once again miffed that they didn't go that route for Rey.
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Apr 14, 2023 03:10
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Our protagonist fights with a stick made of lightsaber parts and her lightsaber broke in 2 i wonder what we should do 🤔🤔
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Apr 14, 2023 03:36
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Robot Style posted:Some sources have established that the Falcon had a low-speed backup hyperdrive that it used to limp to Bespin, but the trip took anywhere from a few weeks to a few months, depending on how long each person thinks is believable for Han & Leia to get to "I love you" and for Luke to spend training with Yoda. Yeah most ships in the WEG RPG had a backup hyperdrive that went at ~5% of the speed of the main one, so a trip that would take an hour would take a day or a trip that would take a day would take a month.
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Glottis posted:I think you're forgetting a big one. I'm pretty sure one of the original Episode One trailers could have just been the words "2 bladed lightsaber" and kids would have still lost their poo poo. Yeah not giving her a double-bladed saber at the end (after her weapon of choice was a staff, and her dark-side vision had a double bladed saber) was beyond stupid. Props for it being yellow though, yellow has been my favorite saber color since like KOTOR and Dark Forces 2 Jedi Knight.
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Apr 14, 2023 05:17
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Neo Rasa posted:It was basically a huge mistake to make that lightsaber important at all. Yeah, this. Lightsabers are cool, but they turned them into quest items with the same finesse they applied to the Sith dagger.
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Apr 14, 2023 05:40
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Strange women living in cantinas handing out laser swords is no basis for a Jedi Order, yet here we are
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Apr 14, 2023 05:46
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Fallen Order has Cal forge his lightsaber from the damaged ones of his masters and later use a broken crystal to repair it. It's not exactly subtle but it's a good way to tie it to the theme of a survivor trying to find a way to move forward.
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Apr 14, 2023 06:01
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Wolfsheim posted:
I really, really want to see Space Bosozoku.
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Apr 14, 2023 07:07
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Kart Barfunkel posted:
A lot of people seem to have had strong feelings about this guy for one reason or another It just goes to show: where there's snoke, there's ire.
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Apr 14, 2023 07:39
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Gnome de plume posted:A lot of people seem to have had strong feelings about this guy for one reason or another I'm OG Star Wars character B'oooooo Hissss, just standing here and glaring at you.
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Apr 14, 2023 07:50
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Gnome de plume posted:A lot of people seem to have had strong feelings about this guy for one reason or another lol
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Apr 14, 2023 07:55
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The Disney movies have a fetishistic fixation on objects, it's weirdly offputting. I don't remember anything like it in the Lucas ones outside of the initial "here's your father's sword".Gnome de plume posted:A lot of people seem to have had strong feelings about this guy for one reason or another beautiful
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Apr 14, 2023 10:13
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The Star Wars Thread: Where there's Snoke, there's Ire
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Apr 14, 2023 10:21
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YaketySass posted:The Disney movies have a fetishistic fixation on objects, it's weirdly offputting. I don't remember anything like it in the Lucas ones outside of the initial "here's your father's sword". merchandise
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Apr 14, 2023 10:35
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YaketySass posted:The Disney movies have a fetishistic fixation on objects, it's weirdly offputting. I don't remember anything like it in the Lucas ones outside of the initial "here's your father's sword". My favorite has to be Those loving Dice in TLJ and Solo. They're not even visible in most cuts of the original film!
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Apr 14, 2023 12:29
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YaketySass posted:The Disney movies have a fetishistic fixation on objects, it's weirdly offputting. I don't remember anything like it in the Lucas ones outside of the initial "here's your father's sword". It's fun to note that this isn't just Star Wars; Marvel movies do it too, with a piece of clothing Scarlett Johansson wears in a scene or two in an Avengers movie being exploded into a very important running gag in her solo flick.
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Apr 14, 2023 13:00
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Halloween Jack posted:This stuff is where the ST gets into the business of trying to win over fans/influencers by repudiating the PT. It's why Maz Kanata is the heart and soul of the ST. It’s so funny how Disney came crawling back to the prequels for a lot of their tv shows. Especially after completely disrespecting them during the production of the sequels.
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Apr 14, 2023 13:23
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Fallen Order has Cal forge his lightsaber from the damaged ones of his masters and later use a broken crystal to repair it. It's not exactly subtle but it's a good way to tie it to the theme of a survivor trying to find a way to move forward. That game had more care put into it than the entire ST and most of the Disney+ live-action shows. Say what you want about the gameplay - it's not for everyone - but the story is fantastic.
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Angry Salami posted:My favorite has to be Those loving Dice in TLJ and Solo. They're not even visible in most cuts of the original film! The dice thing was such a blatant attempt at manufacturing nostalgia on something they could easily merchandise.
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well why not posted:merchandise While I understand this is probably it, Star Wars and Lucas had absolutely no problem merchandising prior to the ST. You don't need everyone in the story to be like "omigod ani's sword" to sell a lightsaber!!! And honestly not having "Rey's Lightsaber" at any point in the ST to sell seems like a massive miscalculation?????? The major motivating factor has to be some weird psychological play at fandom like "these ppl have devoted decades to loving this lightsaber, can we bootstrap new fans into also adoring it in the event they dont see the OT / PT before the ST?"
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