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anime was right posted:viola is at reverie
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Guy A. Person posted:I'm not sure what you're referring to but Dragon was on the call with Sabo where he said the thone wasn't empty just before they got cut off. Sabo is now in the middle of telling the entire story (tho I can't remember what Dragon has been saying, but so far I don't think anyone "knows" about Imu but the story is explicitly about what Sabo saw that day, but at the very least the whole "there's someone who sits on the empty throne" at least is not brand new information) That's a reasonable question and I'm assuming Sabo will talk to Cobra right before Cobra dies, so Sabo can learn about all this. I feel like Dragon's reaction is going to be really interesting after Sabo's done explaining all this.
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May 22, 2023 20:30
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I feel this is all really setup to get Dragon into play after all this time
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May 22, 2023 20:37
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I hope Dragon is like Luffy and gets bored and falls asleep if a story takes too long to tell
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May 22, 2023 20:47
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Broad actions aside, Luffy seems way more like garp than edgelord dragon
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May 22, 2023 20:55
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Luffy grew up knowing garp and hasnt met dragon so that makes some sense.
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May 22, 2023 21:00
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His name is Monkey D. Dragon lol
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May 22, 2023 21:03
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dragon is just as much as a goof as his father and son are but he's gotten very little screentime and is secretive
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May 22, 2023 21:04
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Eiba posted:I think the confusion is that this very important scene is not from Sabo's perspective, Sabo doesn't appear to be here, and ManSedan is wondering how Sabo learned about it. ohhhhh right right right, i kind of figured the latter -- that Sabo walks in just after this or was eavesdropping or gets told this or whatverr -- but was confused by the Dragon mention (and for all we know we might cut back to him doing a full Enel face lol) also so far there hasn't been any "new" info, meaning like i said, Sabo already somehow learned/saw that someone was in the Empty Throne and had said that before and is now elaborating, we dont know if there's going to be anything else significant learned after this scene of if Imu is just going to have Cobra killed on the spot or whatever
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May 22, 2023 21:10
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I'm assuming the Cobra build up stuff is for the audience, like when a character has a flashback but it isn't solely from their perspective. Sabo probably isn't literally saying "and then Cobra met with the Elder Stars and said this whole speech..."
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May 22, 2023 22:09
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cobra to sabo who walked in to find him bleeding out on the floor: as you know, i came in here to speak to the five elders,
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May 22, 2023 22:10
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LanceKing2200 posted:I'm assuming the Cobra build up stuff is for the audience, like when a character has a flashback but it isn't solely from their perspective. Sabo probably isn't literally saying "and then Cobra met with the Elder Stars and said this whole speech..." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfU4akPV7o4
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May 22, 2023 22:11
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LanceKing2200 posted:I'm assuming the Cobra build up stuff is for the audience, like when a character has a flashback but it isn't solely from their perspective. Sabo probably isn't literally saying "and then Cobra met with the Elder Stars and said this whole speech..." He is actually cause Sabo is Imu
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May 22, 2023 22:13
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Imu is Luffy's 3rd brother.
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May 22, 2023 22:17
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It's also possible Sabo managed to get the letter off Cobra, all the new information Cobra's provided so far came from there.
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May 22, 2023 22:31
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Ubiquitus posted:Broad actions aside, Luffy seems way more like garp than edgelord dragon I thought it was a nice touch that Luffy's personality is similar to Roger's and Ace's is similar to Dragon's, not the other way around. One Piece characters don't necessarily have personalities much like those of their biological parents, in general; no "Naruto inherited his verbal tic from the mother he never met" here. This sits somewhat uneasily with the various hereditary monarchies we're supposed to see as basically good, though of course that's a pretty long-term problem; we know Vivi will be a good leader now that Cobra is dead, and the question of what Vivi's own child will be like as a ruler isn't likely to arise anytime soon in a world where "heroic" people can live to be 140.
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May 22, 2023 22:31
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Was Ace really similar to dragon? Dragon doesnt seem like the die pointlessly for honor type.
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May 22, 2023 22:33
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No Wave posted:Was Ace really similar to dragon? Dragon doesnt seem like the die pointlessly for honor type. Not that similar, but they have a sort of comparable brooding vibe.
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May 22, 2023 22:35
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That was just Ace's emo phase in prison, he was plenty cocky and easygoing before that
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May 22, 2023 22:37
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Silver2195 posted:I thought it was a nice touch that Luffy's personality is similar to Roger's and Ace's is similar to Dragon's, not the other way around. Some people read too far into this and have fan theories that Luffy and Ace were accidentally switched as children - a theory I generally try to debunk by posting pictures of young Garp.
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May 22, 2023 23:02
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I feel like you could probably tell two children apart when one is three years older
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May 22, 2023 23:05
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LanceKing2200 posted:I'm assuming the Cobra build up stuff is for the audience, like when a character has a flashback but it isn't solely from their perspective. Sabo probably isn't literally saying "and then Cobra met with the Elder Stars and said this whole speech..." It'll make way more sense when Ryuichi Cosgi is cast for the anime. No Wave posted:Was Ace really similar to dragon? Dragon doesnt seem like the die pointlessly for honor type. To be fair, nobody's called Dragon a chicken yet.
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May 22, 2023 23:25
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I've heard a theory that Dragon isn't actually Garp's son, but married Garp's daughter, based mostly on one line where Luffy sees a picture of Dragon and goes "Oh he doesn't really look like me" and Garp referring to Luffy as "The son of my kid" specifically but those could easily just be translation things.
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May 22, 2023 23:54
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Drakkel posted:I've heard a theory that Dragon isn't actually Garp's son, but married Garp's daughter, based mostly on one line where Luffy sees a picture of Dragon and goes "Oh he doesn't really look like me" and Garp referring to Luffy as "The son of my kid" specifically but those could easily just be translation things. I think this has been around for a while and I could get behind it. Luffy's mom has basically never been mentioned in universe would also make sense if something happened to her which set Dragon on his current path and why Garp doesn't seem particularly interested in stopping him. I'm fairly sure we know Dragon and Garp communicate
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Garp has never explicitly referred to Dragon as his son yeah. Although I think Sengoku once called him out for having a bloodline that kept causing problems and Garp didn't correct him. Dragon does look a lot like the silhouette of Rocks so it's a tempting theory
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May 23, 2023 00:44
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So Dragon took on Garp's last name?
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May 23, 2023 01:48
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Probably easier to get around as a Monkey than as a Rocks
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Kild posted:So Dragon took on Garp's last name? I mean that's more believable than Ace's mom's pregnancy
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I R SMART LIKE ROCK posted:I mean that's more believable than Ace's mom's pregnancy It's called Haki.
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May 23, 2023 01:56
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Kild posted:So Dragon took on Garp's last name? It's much simpler to suppose Garp instilled his sense of justice and responsibility into his son, who then saw how the Navy serving the Tenryubito went against everything Garp purported to value. One of the easiest to understand "gently caress you dad" scenarios I can think of. I R SMART LIKE ROCK posted:I mean that's more believable than Ace's mom's pregnancy
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May 23, 2023 01:57
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Eiba posted:Well, his wife's name. It's a thing that can happen. I'm not particularly hung up on it. I honestly think it's funny but my point of comparison is that it's easier to change your name than perform a super human feat
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I R SMART LIKE ROCK posted:I'm not particularly hung up on it. I honestly think it's funny but my point of comparison is that it's easier to change your name than perform a super human feat
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May 23, 2023 02:06
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Eiba posted:Fair enough. It's usually a thing I see people just casually joke about and I don't imagine there's usually any strong feelings involved. I'll admit to being the one hung up on the subject. nah you're good fam. I honestly didn't even know people actually disliked it. then again I'm the dummy for forgetting this is the internet and there's always someone out there who hates a thing
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Eiba posted:I feel like Dragon's reaction is going to be really interesting after Sabo's done explaining all this.  
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This is a break week unfortunately
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Honestly I could see Dragon's backstory be that he was a Marine as a kid/teen under Garp's tutelage, but when he found out about how the WG is structured/how the Marines are basically a private army for the 1%, he decided to fight back against that system from the outside. Knowing what we know about Garp, he may not have even objected.
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i think that if dragon was ever a marine, there would be records of him. i mean, his face is plastered up everywhere so he couldn't have joined under a pseudonym. someone in the marines would have recognized him. besides, why should dragon need to have been a marine to be radicalized? he's got the same reason as sabo. they're both from Society Is Rotten Island.
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gimme the GOD drat candy posted:i think that if dragon was ever a marine, there would be records of him. i mean, his face is plastered up everywhere so he couldn't have joined under a pseudonym. someone in the marines would have recognized him. besides, why should dragon need to have been a marine to be radicalized? he's got the same reason as sabo. they're both from Society Is Rotten Island. this is one piece basically everyone has a tragic backstory
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