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veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Risotto isn't bad per-say. I think it's good enough, but a little bit unappealing as a main course. The thing I don't really get is the elevated reputation it has. In fact I think I prefer normal rear end rice to it. lots of work with results I'm not even that wowed by I guess.

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Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
Tbh I like risotto fine, but I prefer pilaf. It’s also super versatile, and I’m willing to trade the cheese and wine for extra butter/schmaltz flavor, especially with a chance of a little tahdig

Anne Whateley fucked around with this message at 20:32 on May 23, 2023

therattle
Jul 24, 2007
Soiled Meat

Anne Whateley posted:

Tbh I like risotto fine, but I prefer pilaf. It’s also super versatile, and I’m willing to trade the cheese and wine for extra butter/schmaltz flavor, especially with a chance of a little tahdig

YES.


veni veni veni posted:

Risotto isn't bad per-say. I think it's good enough, but a little bit unappealing as a main course. The thing I don't really get is the elevated reputation it has. In fact I think I prefer normal rear end rice to it. lots of work with results I'm not even that wowed by I guess.

YES.

I have never eaten a risotto I really enjoyed.

Drink and Fight
Feb 2, 2003

Sounds like you're eating really boring risotto.

Doom Rooster
Sep 3, 2008

Pillbug

Drink and Fight posted:

Sounds like you're eating really boring risotto.

Yeah, I thought risotto was fine, until I had good risotto at a restaurant. The texture and flavor was so far beyond what I had ever had home cooked, it was a revelation.

My homemade risotto remained “fine” until I got some Carnarolli rice. Bam! Instantly as good as restaurant quality. It turns out that either Arborio in general, or at least the Arborio we are getting in American grocery stores, is kinda meh.

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!
I made veal stock risotto at home and it blew my mind a bit. Tons of pitfalls for risotto preparation - dont bother toasting the rice, stirring does nothing (except let you add more stock to concentrate the stock flavor). But the "best" stuff is really just stock goop with parmesan and butter so the only way to do it is to make amazing stock.

therattle
Jul 24, 2007
Soiled Meat

Drink and Fight posted:

Sounds like you're eating really boring risotto.

Almost all risotto is boring risotto. And I am taking about restaurants as I never make it.

Eeyo
Aug 29, 2004

Anno posted:

Edit: - it’s a very calming dish to make. Just poured an Old Fashioned, put on some music and slowly stirred away. Not many dishes like that (at least that I’ve made).

IMO making a big stack of tortillas is a bit like that. Keeps you occupied while you do it and you can just get into a rhythm.

Anno
May 10, 2017

I'm going to drown! For no reason at all!

It really does make a lot. The wife and I both had a small bowl last night, then my five year old took some to school for lunch and my wife had some for breakfast and I've had two portions and there's still one left.

One of them I chopped up half a chorizo sausage and that went together very well. The second I drizzled on some chili oil and that was also good but less so.

Will definitely make this again (though maybe more when cold weather comes back around) and keep trying to find good companion foods.

VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009

Anno posted:

Edit: - it’s a very calming dish to make. Just poured an Old Fashioned, put on some music and slowly stirred away. Not many dishes like that (at least that I’ve made).

Or pound 4 lokos and put one of these in the pot and watch your dish burn like the rest of your life

BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

this is fine



Risotto is good, if you like white wine and mushrooms

Also, I've done low stir in the past but not this one exactly, turned out great

https://youtu.be/R_OZGeKW-Pw

Drink and Fight
Feb 2, 2003

You can put literally anything in your hot wet rice and if you think it's boring you've just seriously had lovely risotto. Mushroom risotto obviously, borscht risotto like someone said, jambalaya risotto, pizza risotto, chicken soup risotto, shakshuka risotto. Literally any flavors you want.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
You can also do that with pilaf though

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


See, I view pilaf as a poor compromise between risotto and biryani. Someone once served me a north-western Chinese/Kazakh steppe dish which was some kind of biryani-ish dish done with goat and carrot. It was totally top tier, but I never figured out what it was called and all of the videos they sent me on it were in western Chinese dialects.

Scientastic
Mar 1, 2010

TRULY scientastic.
🔬🍒


The stirring of the risotto is not part of the technique it’s part of the ritual. No-stir risotto may taste the same, but there is a simple pleasure in taking the time out of a busy day to stir a pot of rice until it is delicious.

Mr. Wiggles
Dec 1, 2003

We are all drinking from the highball glass of ideology.

Scientastic posted:

The stirring of the risotto is not part of the technique it’s part of the ritual. No-stir risotto may taste the same, but there is a simple pleasure in taking the time out of a busy day to stir a pot of rice until it is delicious.

You can use this time to stir martinis though.

Hawkperson
Jun 20, 2003

I love risotto, maybe I’ll make some this weekend

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Croatoan posted:

Well I'm glad I missed the Teflon slap fight. I wanted to let everyone know Amazon has the OXO Good Grips Pro 10" Frying Pan Skillet on sale for $20.45 after on-page coupon. It's probably as good as the Tramontina Teflon pan that's usually a crowd favorite around here. Really good price, it's normally $49.99.

I impulse bought this at like 4 am last night and it was here at 7am :eyepop:

Seems like a good pan I used it twice today. Got a nice shape/feel to it.

Scientastic
Mar 1, 2010

TRULY scientastic.
🔬🍒


Mr. Wiggles posted:

You can use this time to stir martinis though.

I have children for that

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words

CommonShore posted:

See, I view pilaf as a poor compromise between risotto and biryani. Someone once served me a north-western Chinese/Kazakh steppe dish which was some kind of biryani-ish dish done with goat and carrot. It was totally top tier, but I never figured out what it was called and all of the videos they sent me on it were in western Chinese dialects.
Hot take maybe, but isn’t biryani a member of the great family of pilafs?

What you had was probably Kazakh plov, try googling that?

therattle
Jul 24, 2007
Soiled Meat

Scientastic posted:

The stirring of the risotto is not part of the technique it’s part of the ritual. No-stir risotto may taste the same, but there is a simple pleasure in taking the time out of a busy day to stir a pot of rice until it is delicious boring.

I’ve had enough risottos over the course of my now quite long life to realise that it’s not that they’re all badly made or boring – it’s just not a dish I like. It’s something about the way the rice is cooked that deadens everything

ExecuDork
Feb 25, 2007

We might be fucked, sir.
Fallen Rib
You regularly post on SomethingAwful dot com - surely you, like the rest of us, are actively seeking anything, anything at all, that deadens the horror of this life?

VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009

ExecuDork posted:

You regularly post on SomethingAwful dot com - surely you, like the rest of us, are actively seeking anything, anything at all, that deadens the horror of this life?

hey you holding out on us man you got something like that cmon let's see it

Scientastic
Mar 1, 2010

TRULY scientastic.
🔬🍒


I was inspired by the thread to make risotto last night with some leftover mushrooms, it was delicious

therattle
Jul 24, 2007
Soiled Meat

ExecuDork posted:

You regularly post on SomethingAwful dot com - surely you, like the rest of us, are actively seeking anything, anything at all, that deadens the horror of this life?

It deadens the dish, not the horror. I use alcohol and pornography for that.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.
Surely there is a way to combine these three things: alcohol, phonography, and stirring risotto.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


There are dishes, esp. soups and sauces, I make that require long stirring. Standing at a stove for an hour or so is painful. Does anybody know of something that's sold as a stool for chefs\cooks? I've thought of tabletop convection, but they're still expensive and I'm not sure our ancient kitchen wiring would support it. Bar stool s are the wrong height.

Shooting Blanks
Jun 6, 2007

Real bullets mess up how cool this thing looks.

-Blade



Arsenic Lupin posted:

There are dishes, esp. soups and sauces, I make that require long stirring. Standing at a stove for an hour or so is painful. Does anybody know of something that's sold as a stool for chefs\cooks? I've thought of tabletop convection, but they're still expensive and I'm not sure our ancient kitchen wiring would support it. Bar stool s are the wrong height.

If it's painful for your feet, they make anti-fatigue mats to stand on.

Submarine Sandpaper
May 27, 2007


I hear in Australia there is something that does it all.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


Shooting Blanks posted:

If it's painful for your feet, they make anti-fatigue mats to stand on.

No, it's painful for my back and knees. We already do have anti-fatigue mats.

Shooting Blanks
Jun 6, 2007

Real bullets mess up how cool this thing looks.

-Blade



Arsenic Lupin posted:

No, it's painful for my back and knees. We already do have anti-fatigue mats.

Look for a prep stool or shop stool. It may take some digging to find one with a back, but they usually have an adjustable height so you can raise/lower as necessary.

Verisimilidude
Dec 20, 2006

Strike quick and hurry at him,
not caring to hit or miss.
So that you dishonor him before the judges



The best cooking channel on YouTube is Bruno Albouze

therattle
Jul 24, 2007
Soiled Meat

Submarine Sandpaper posted:

I hear in Australia there is something that does it all.

In Australia you have to stir the soup the other way because it's in the southern hemisphere.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


Shooting Blanks posted:

Look for a prep stool or shop stool. It may take some digging to find one with a back, but they usually have an adjustable height so you can raise/lower as necessary.

You're awesome. Thank you.

I have another question. Does anybody out there make onion pakoras/pakodas/bhaji? The batter recipe I currently use isn't strong enough to hold the onions together as they go into the pot. It's pure besan/gram flour, plus baking powder, spices, and minced pepper. Do you have a recipe with a batter that is more sticky? Some recipes I've googled use cornstarch, which makes sense, but I'd love to hear other options.

e: The magic words turned out to be "height adjustable lab stool". Everything I found under shop stools was branded as I Am Very Manly Here's My Seat Logo.

Arsenic Lupin fucked around with this message at 19:16 on May 26, 2023

zone
Dec 6, 2016

Arsenic Lupin posted:

You're awesome. Thank you.

I have another question. Does anybody out there make onion pakoras/pakodas/bhaji? The batter recipe I currently use isn't strong enough to hold the onions together as they go into the pot. It's pure besan/gram flour, plus baking powder, spices, and minced pepper. Do you have a recipe with a batter that is more sticky? Some recipes I've googled use cornstarch, which makes sense, but I'd love to hear other options.

e: The magic words turned out to be "height adjustable lab stool". Everything I found under shop stools was branded as I Am Very Manly Here's My Seat Logo.

Cornstarch will work, but try making the batter about as thick as pancake batter. Adjust up or down from there with a small sample size to how you like it, then make up the big batch accordingly.

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


zone posted:

Cornstarch will work, but try making the batter about as thick as pancake batter. Adjust up or down from there with a small sample size to how you like it, then make up the big batch accordingly.

Ohhh. Mine was way, way too thick.

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat
Always dig under the top layer

dino.
Mar 28, 2010

Yip Yip, bitch.
Rattle my love, have you tried Pongal? I know you like my type of food, so I think you’d enjoy it. Moong daal, rice, cumin seeds, asafoetida, curry leaves, turmeric, and black pepper. It’s a creamy comforting dish that involves no long stirring. Also, easy to make. I can send you the version I made at the temple my dad was working at back in 2018. The folk coming in are it like they’d never seen food before.

therattle
Jul 24, 2007
Soiled Meat

dino. posted:

Rattle my love, have you tried Pongal? I know you like my type of food, so I think you’d enjoy it. Moong daal, rice, cumin seeds, asafoetida, curry leaves, turmeric, and black pepper. It’s a creamy comforting dish that involves no long stirring. Also, easy to make. I can send you the version I made at the temple my dad was working at back in 2018. The folk coming in are it like they’d never seen food before.

I ate at the restaurant of the same name in NYC many moons ago. I’d love the recipe! Thank you!

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BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

this is fine



Cross quoting for shameless attention seeking

Big purchase question in the equipment thread

BrianBoitano posted:

Any exceptional single electric wall oven or single + microwave? Budget $2-3,000 before install for single, up to $4k for combo. Looks like consumer reports rates highly Café and KitchenAid. Costco sells both of those + GE Profile which appears to be just a step down from Café. Doesn't need to be Costco but doesn't hurt.

FGR tribute project - check out the thread!

BrianBoitano posted:

Ice cream!
<Snip>
Freeze and spin


Top

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FGR figured out the ratio of milk to cream that works great in the Creami. Thanks for that, king. Rest easy.

Thanks, community :)

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