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Nebakenezzer posted:Don't horrible death-shame The most poignant part of that story, to me, is when he suggests that the Germans might have started walking in the direction they did because their tourist map showed a military base in that direction, and coming from Europe they would have been familiar with European military bases: close to civilization, surrounded by a fence, patrolled by sentries, with food and water and medical care at hand. Salvation. The military base they were walking towards, the China Lake range, is...not that.
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I can see how a person could make that kind of mistake sitting in a hotel room and looking at a map. It’s surprising to me that that thinking can persist after spending some time in Death Valley, but that does seem to be what happened.
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Platystemon posted:I can see how a person could make that kind of mistake sitting in a hotel room and looking at a map. A lot of people don't "get" nature even when it's about to get them.
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People are also terrible at estimating distances, especially in environments they’re unfamiliar with. I worked in northern Canada for a while and I can’t tell you the number of time a southerner would go “oh let’s just hike over to that hill for some pictures, shouldn’t be more than an hour” only to call it in after three hours of walking and the hill not being any closer.
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theres a reason actual survival specialists like Les Stroud keep saying to not wander off like that, people don't know or don't behave logically or rationally, especially when confronted with entirely unfamiliar situations.
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it's hard to overstate how crowded most "nature" in europe is, (think yosemite spring and summer, but at every notable mountain and wooded area) and it makes it really easy to understand how people just winging it could end up tragically underestimating how vast, empty, and hostile parts of the US are
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Nebakenezzer posted:
Guessing he means this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Papago_Escape
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CarForumPoster posted:Guessing he means this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Papago_Escape Worth quoting: quote:The escape began at 9:00 PM on December 23. By 2:30 AM on December 24, Wattenberg and twenty-four other men had made it through the tunnel without alarming the guards. Inside the Cross Cut Canal, the Germans headed south toward the Salt River. Captain Wilhelm Günther and Lieutenants Wolfgang Clarus and Friedrich Utzolino built a collapsible raft out of wood and scraps of rubber, hoping to float their way down the Salt River, to the Gila River, to the Colorado River, and into the Gulf of California. But they found there was very little water in the Salt River and they abandoned the raft after a short time. The others split up into pairs and small groups and went separate ways, avoiding trains and buses.[7][8] Years before the Phoenix Zoo was here this was kind of the middle of nowhere. December/January in Phoenix isn't unpleasant temperature wise but humidity is still approximately 0 and desert night could still cause exposure alarmingly quickly. I guess they didn't understand that the fences were to keep Arizona out as much as to keep them in! Hell, a few days of "bread and water" might've even been medically indicated to prevent refeeding syndrome after all that!
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CarForumPoster posted:Guessing he means this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Papago_Escape Yeah. Solid local alt-paper's article about it: https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/flight-from-phoenix-6418278?showFullText=true My favorite's the one who heard what the camp was going to be serving for Christmas dinner and said "That sounds good" and turned himself in.
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it sounds like some of them might have figured out that being a POW in an american camp was a lot better than being a german soldier in 1944
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Sagebrush posted:it sounds like some of them might have figured out that being a POW in an american camp was a lot better than being a german soldier in 1944 It was better than being a citizen of the United States who happened to be Japanese.
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Just spent a week in Europe for work, and managed to finagle my way onto a United 787 on the way there, and a LH 747-8i on the way back. So I've checked all the big names in the 7x7 family, finally. The 787 was a really nice ride, and the 747 was no slouch either. Even in economy, the 747 had the most legroom I've ever had on a commercial airliner...I had room to stretch a bit, which contrasts drastically with United's 757s, where I cannot avoid my knees being in contact the entire time without partially standing. The life preserver box under the 747's seats though...that sucks. It's absurd that this is the first time I've had to put my backpack in the overhead because it didn't fit under the seat.
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hobbesmaster posted:Years before the Phoenix Zoo was here this was kind of the middle of nowhere. December/January in Phoenix isn't unpleasant temperature wise but humidity is still approximately 0 and desert night could still cause exposure alarmingly quickly. I guess they didn't understand that the fences were to keep Arizona out as much as to keep them in! Hell, a few days of "bread and water" might've even been medically indicated to prevent refeeding syndrome after all that! I can believe it! Canada manages to one - up Phoenix in hostile environments. They built a POW camp north of Thunder Bay. The camp didn't need walls. Anybody who escaped inevitably turned themselves in after the the local insect population had driven them almost insane.
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Godholio posted:Just spent a week in Europe for work, and managed to finagle my way onto a United 787 on the way there, and a LH 747-8i on the way back. So I've checked all the big names in the 7x7 family, finally. The 787 was a really nice ride, and the 747 was no slouch either. Even in economy, the 747 had the most legroom I've ever had on a commercial airliner...I had room to stretch a bit, which contrasts drastically with United's 757s, where I cannot avoid my knees being in contact the entire time without partially standing. The life preserver box under the 747's seats though...that sucks. It's absurd that this is the first time I've had to put my backpack in the overhead because it didn't fit under the seat. 787 is I think the first time I cruised at 40k feet.
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Phanatic posted:Oh, the beemanity: this was 9 pages back, but the problem here is that the presence of a bunch of insects means someone needs to check the pitot tubes?
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Potato Salad posted:this was 9 pages back, but the problem here is that the presence of a bunch of insects means someone needs to check the pitot tubes? yes in case the plane swallowed a bug and needs to spitot out
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Potato Salad posted:this was 9 pages back, but the problem here is that the presence of a bunch of insects means someone needs to check the pitot tubes? It's to save the bees
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Kesper North posted:yes in case the plane swallowed a bug and needs to spitot out Just gotta make the plane swallow a spider to catch the fly...
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PhotoKirk posted:Just gotta make the plane swallow a spider to catch the fly... Then you have a mouse catch the spider and then a snake to catch the mouse. And I'm tired of snakes on planes.
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Somehow we skipped a few steps, planes are already full of whales.
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cigaw posted:Somehow we skipped a few steps, planes are already full of whales. Transparent aluminum?
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PhotoKirk posted:Transparent aluminum? Already on your wrist, if you have a nice watch. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sapphire
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babyeatingpsychopath posted:Then you have a mouse catch the spider and then a snake to catch the mouse. Do you want Operation Cat Drop? Because that's how you get Operation Cat Drop.
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PhotoKirk posted:Transparent aluminum?
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Wingnut Ninja posted:Already on your wrist, if you have a nice watch. There’s real transparent aluminum* now https://hackaday.com/2018/04/03/whats-the-deal-with-transparent-aluminum/ * depending on your exact definition of aluminum
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Hmmm, how to make helicopters more dangerous? Ramjets in the end of the rotors! Hiller YH-32 Hornet 
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Humphreys posted:Hmmm, how to make helicopters more dangerous? Ramjets in the end of the rotors! Fire-starting and ear-shattering!
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david_a posted:There’s real transparent aluminum* now love an article about a tweet about a couple bros finding out about 40-year-old tech. tech journalism everyone lol
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Humphreys posted:Hmmm, how to make helicopters more dangerous? Ramjets in the end of the rotors! This is Tom Swift Jr's Skeeter and therefore both dumb and awesome.
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if you're ever in the area, the Hiller Aviation museum at the san carlos airport is a fun little museum. hiller was one of those guys that give mad scientists a good name. in his eyes there wasn't a single problem facing humanity that couldn't be solved with rotary-wing flight
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EeNc2dMn80g
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Humphreys posted:Hmmm, how to make helicopters more dangerous? Ramjets in the end of the rotors! Gasoline powered ramjets, even. There's no fuel pump: there's a rotary coupling in the hub. You hand-prime the rotor tips, light on fire, and then spin the rotor head by hand. The venturi in the ramjet sucks more fuel in and then centrifugal force compresses it to atomize it in the nozzle. It's a very clever arrangement and (according to the plaque) is self-regulating so the rotor speed always stays the same.
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https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/passenger-opens-exit-door-during-airplane-flight-in-south-korea-12-people-injured-slightly-1.6414203quote:A passenger opened an emergency exit door during a plane flight in South Korea on Friday, causing air to blast inside the cabin and slightly injure 12 people, officials said. The plane landed safely. I assume the higher air pressure outside assisted with this being possible?
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Nah the doors are inside the fuselage - they have to be pulled in before they can be pushed out. 700’ is low enough for the cabin pressure to equal the outside ambient. Guessing he cracked the seal and the door popped inwards a bit
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slidebite posted:https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/passenger-opens-exit-door-during-airplane-flight-in-south-korea-12-people-injured-slightly-1.6414203 Yeah, depending on how the crew had the pressurization control, the cabin "descends with" the plane below 10k feet. So the plane was pressurized to 100-500ft below outside air pressure. That's .05-.25psi (3-18mbar). The exit door skin opening area is 20x40 inches, so at max dP and ignoring the actual door shape, that's 200lbs of force holding the door closed. Doable for someone dedicated. At cruise, there's TONS of force holding that thing closed.
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gonna make that exit row questionnaire real awkward when they have to add "and you won't just try to open it at random, right????" on another note, has any successor to adsbexchange popped up in terms of a map just showing what's flying? or are they still trucking along due to inertia?
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I use FlightRadar24 for a map to see what's flying; is that different than what you're looking for?
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Psion posted:on another note, has any successor to adsbexchange popped up in terms of a map just showing what's flying? or are they still trucking along due to inertia? adsb.fi is pretty much a fork
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Beef Of Ages posted:I use FlightRadar24 for a map to see what's flying; is that different than what you're looking for? adsb exchange isn't censored and used to be community run. I assume the poster is looking for an alternative service that isn't owned by a private equity firm.
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madeintaipei posted:Do you want Operation Cat Drop? Because that's how you get Operation Cat Drop. wait but there's no audiovisual record of this so let's instead talk about the Idaho Parabeaver Corps https://youtu.be/APLz2bTprMA
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