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^ How many plants are you doing per pot. I can see 2 maybe 3? The 1st picture looks like a lot of plants. How big are the pots? Are you regularly fertilizing? Content for the new page. Found this guy hanging out on my roselle. Here is the plants at 1.5 months. These things have taken off putting a ton of foliage since they made it in the ground. Really loving the heat too.   Additional question. Anyone with Oya usage? I've got 3 plants all started at the same time. But the outflow of water via the oyas is really inconsistent among the 3 oya, like whole half gallons or more per day difference. I've chalked it up to more or less garden soil in each hole. Or one side is closer to clay etc. Anyone want to confirm my thought process? sterster fucked around with this message at 23:44 on Jun 2, 2023 |
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sterster posted:^ How many plants are you doing per pot. I can see 2 maybe 3? The 1st picture looks like a lot of plants. How big are the pots? Are you regularly fertilizing? Generally it's just one, that one container ended up more somehow, and yea that's probably bad. It's about 10 plants, in 10 gallon bags. Once a week, started with miracle grow general fertilizer then switched to JR Peter's 12/15/30 once they started flowering.
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Nukelear v.2 posted:Is there a way to tell if my tomatoes are wilting from lack of water, fungal infection or something else?  . Weird it would happen in grow bags as they are all largely soil-borne diseases . Did you use dirt from the ground or a potting mix of some sort? You can check for bacterial wilt by cutting a plant near the ground and sticking the stem in water-if milky white stuff comes out it's bacterial wilt and don't use those bags or soil for tomatoes or other nightshades again (tho eggplant seem fairly resistant).E: just saw your pictures. Looks like maybe spider mites to me. Spray the heck out of them with appropriate insecticide, especially the underside of the leaves-I can't remember offhand what that might be. A little more space between plants would be good too. Keep watering, drip irrigation is better than spray nozzles if possible. Kaiser Schnitzel fucked around with this message at 01:06 on Jun 3, 2023 |
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Nukelear v.2 posted:Of course, thank you! For the rest, this is my opinion, as an amateur and not a trained botanist. So, good news first. That's unlikely to be fusarium wilt, because the veins of the leaf would yellow before the rest of the leaf, and you've got the reverse. It's not early blight, because early blight starts in circular spots that spread outward. https://content.ces.ncsu.edu/early-blight-of-tomato It doesn't look like late blight to me, because the splotches aren't right. Late blight also tends to start at the top. It's not septoria leaf spot, because the leaves .... wait for it ... spot. If it's unlikely to be fungal diseases, the two things I'd check first are fertilization -- did you fertilize these, or did you rely on the potting soil? -- and the watering. The fun thing is that dying leaves at the bottom can be caused by overwatering or underwatering. To figure out what you might have, go out and stick your finger in the soil, up to a knuckle or two. Does it feel like a wrung-out sponge? That's just right. If it's bone-dry between waterings, you should probably be watering more often; in the right climate, tomatoes can need watering twice a day. If it feels like a soaked sponge, or, worse, if you feel actually wet rather than moist, then you're watering too much. In general, you are better off with few deep waterings than with lots of shallow waterings. A deep watering helps develop strong roots, and the plant can better survive occasional droughts. Shallow waterings only reach the surface, and so the plant wilts quickly if you skip a watering. A plant in a pot dries out a lot quicker than a plant in the ground. Anybody else want to weigh in?
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Arsenic Lupin posted:
In the post above they mentioned fertilizing weekly which in pots may be needed so I'm going to guess water too. Especially if there has been recent changes in weather patters. Maybe you were getting by because it was raining. Maybe it's more windy this time of month/year or your humidity plummeted. Maybe you cut your grass around the pots which was acting like an insulator. Idk but pots can be finicky with water for all those reasons.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:There are a lot of tiny dots on the underside of those leaves. Is that just camera artifact, or are those bugs? There are indeed very tiny white dots under some of the leaves that are starting to die. They aren't bugs, possibly dust or dirt stuck to the sticky hairs on the plant, maybe small spots of fungus? None of the leaves that are totally gone have masses of fungus or anything obvious like a big fungal or spider mite infection. That said, spider mites seem entirely possible. I can't see any bugs, but there are some small amounts of webs in the plants. It can't hurt to to do some rosemary or neem spraying so I'll give that a try. They're planted in potting soil and cow compost with cedar mulch on top. Water wise, wrung out sponge is how it feels right now. Thanks everyone! Nukelear v.2 fucked around with this message at 02:42 on Jun 3, 2023 |
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Nukelear v.2 posted:Of course, thank you! Arsenic Lupin posted:Anybody else want to weigh in? Sure, I'll argue for the possibility of a nutrient problem because the only thing I know about tomato diseases is "if everything turns black, falls over and starts rotting within three days it's late blight". Motile nutrient because the old leaves are affected but not the new ones so maybe potassium, given the yellowing turning to brown progressing from the tips? Uneven watering can cause nutrient deficiencies, also cold soil temperatures which would be more likely in grow bags. Of course, if the op is in Arizona they can probably ignore that last part. If not, soil temperatures will correct themselves (eventually). So, that brings us back to keeping the soil evenly moist which can be tricky with growbags. Might help too to switch to a balanced fertilizer with micronutrients or some kelp extract along with regular fertilizers.
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drk posted:after some failures in the past, got some nasturtiums growing this year and the first flower came out very pretty Eat it. Right now. To the face.
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Schmeichy posted:Containers mean your plants are getting colder/hotter than if they were in the soil. If the pots weren't protected in 5a, they could definitely die from cold
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That Old Ganon posted:When you say protected, do you mean having some sort of cover over them? I mulched them thinking it was supposed to help. You need to insulate the sides, too. The big issue is that normally in winter a plant's roots are surrounded by dirt for feet in every direction, which keeps temperature a lot more stable. I tend to just wrap old towels or blankets around them.
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Annath posted:Help! Annath get your gun.
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Hexigrammus posted:If any start going after the Bramley's Seedling or Gravenstein though I'm going to go all YouTube on their arses. You're going to...remove dislikes?
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Worse - demonetize them.
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Cherry tomatos have over topped their 5' poles. Do i let them just go crazy and flop over prune them back?
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gently caress flea beetles
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Crossposting Turned this home grown golden boys. Into a grilled chicken and beets, mixed green salad with some orange supremes, candied pecans, goat cheese, drizzle of honey, and topped with some micro greens, dressing is balsamic and olive oil. 
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sterster posted:Crossposting Looks tasty. I think I want to plant beets this fall in my buckets-- maybe even two kinds, one for the greens and ones for the actual beets. I love beet greens roasted or done up like kale chips.
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Got my hands on some BT. Store only had captain jacks, so I asked the difference and the helpful gardener person essentially said, “Jacks claims they’re more woo woo.” Which I appreciated. Rain all night, so I’m applying tomorrow am. Or perhaps tomorrow evening for to avoid the sun.
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CommonShore posted:gently caress flea beetles This year I had some mustard greens that I was letting go to seed and it turns out they are a fantastic trap crop for flea beetles. Almost no damage on anything else and the mustard leaves were eaten to tatters but the plants kept on truckin’. And they produced a ton of seeds. I had a couple volunteer mustard pop up this spring so I left them in. Amaranth is also a good flea beetle trap crop. I tried to grow it last year and it really struggled because of the flea beetles until I started spraying spinosad. This year I didn’t even bother planting any. All the volunteers have been decimated. I’m trying to save the spinosad for the fire ants now. I don’t want to overuse it and have them become resistant to it. Fire ants are the worst.
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Joburg posted:This year I had some mustard greens that I was letting go to seed and it turns out they are a fantastic trap crop for flea beetles. Almost no damage on anything else and the mustard leaves were eaten to tatters but the plants kept on truckin’. And they produced a ton of seeds. I had a couple volunteer mustard pop up this spring so I left them in. In my case they got inside my bug netting and have killed more than half of my kale already 
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Went to check my aronias which had been getting hit with deer browse to see that they are now getting hit by aphids. There were little ants tending to them too, a whole fuckin economy happening in my fruit trees. God drat, chokeberries are supposed to be weeds but they're just getting hit from all sides. Imma try neem oil first and see how annoying that is, then step up my insecticide game if that doesn't work well. Thankfully the aronias are planted in bramble alley with the raspberries and wineberries, and not in Tiny Orchard on the other side of the house, so at least the aphids won't get to the other fruit trees without significant effort. Fuckin bugs, man.
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I live by the rule that aphids are only a problem if the host plant is too weak to handle them. Spray the leaves with some compost tea, make sure they're watered fully, pray the ladybugs and predators figure out soon that there's a buffet available, and then you get to enjoy the predatory bugs which are much cuter.
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They can get out of control fast, especially where plants are dense. I don't leave it to chance. Aphid murder is the way.
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A family of chipmunks made one of my flower beds their home. They are too cute to kill, but they suuuuuck. They’ve eaten almost all of my tulip bulbs.
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Chad Sexington posted:They can get out of control fast, especially where plants are dense. Aphid murder is the only way. I walked past some shrubs that were absolutely covered with the things today and they weren't there last week. They're going to eat the whole shrub before it has a chance.
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Fed my tomatoes and peppers today. It is stupid that every fertilizer in a big box store doesn’t display actual quantities. I just grabbed some with more P and K than N and followed directions. But even if I test my soil I can’t meaningfully apply this stuff. I need to stop going to big box stores.
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ThePopeOfFun posted:Fed my tomatoes and peppers today. It is stupid that every fertilizer in a big box store doesn’t display actual quantities. I just grabbed some with more P and K than N and followed directions. But even if I test my soil I can’t meaningfully apply this stuff. I need to stop going to big box stores. 100/<one of the NPK numbers> tells you exactly how many pounds of that fertilizer you need to put down to add one pound of N, P or K to the soil.
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Motronic posted:100/<one of the NPK numbers> tells you exactly how many pounds of that fertilizer you need to put down to add one pound of N, P or K to the soil. That’s handy. Going to write an angry letter about putting it on the box.
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I walk outside and start shouting "they were PERCENTAGES all along!!!!!" at the clouds.
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% per lb 8 characters, Schultz!!! That’s all I need!!!!
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Bloody Cat Farm posted:A family of chipmunks made one of my flower beds their home. They are too cute to kill, but they suuuuuck. They’ve eaten almost all of my tulip bulbs. You'll stop finding them cute when they start sinking any cement pads you may have.
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A robin flew into me while I was tying up one of my tomatoes this morning. It was chasing another robin. Too horny to see, I guess. I’ve been hot composting following [url= https://deepgreenpermaculture.com/2010/05/08/hot-compost-composting-in-18-days/?amp=1]the Berkeley method[/url]. I’m a little surprised it’s working as well as it is. My gardening peers all had the impression it was too fussy, involving thermometers and various readings. I didn’t measure anything but the rough 2 carbon : 1 nitrogen, measured in 5 gallon buckets. I’ve successfully broken down 20 gallons of kitchen scraps, peels and paper waste, plus more yard waste. It isn’t working as well on whole waxy leaves like oak, but my pile is not near as large as prescribed. I could mow them prior to the pile, but there’s so many and my mower is so small. I’m very happy with the results nonetheless.
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Look at all the sunflower for you to climb, peas, why aren't you climbing!? One vine I tied to the sunflower, it bends in half above it, and then started growing up again from where it's hanging, just not grabbing the sunflowers.
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The allelopaths in sunflowers make them too much of a pain to use for trellising in my experience.
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Would anyone be able to recommend a decent, inexpensive pressurized sprayer/atomizer? I'm looking around quart sized, I already have a larger 2 gallon one. Been looking on Amazon and they have so many priced from $10 up to like $50. I don't mind paying more if it's better quality. Using a hand pump sprayer for BT, Spinosad, etc on the garden is getting tiresome. Thanks.
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Bloody Cat Farm posted:A family of chipmunks made one of my flower beds their home. They are too cute to kill, but they suuuuuck. They’ve eaten almost all of my tulip bulbs. I can assure you they are not too cute to kill. It might help to think of it less as protecting your flowers and more as stepping up to handle the important biological role that we left vacant by systematically driving away the predators that would otherwise be keeping the rodent population in check.
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Organic Lube User posted:The allelopaths in sunflowers make them too much of a pain to use for trellising in my experience. like me, my pole beans last year also didn't know what allelopaths were and went loving nuts  guess peas are more sensitive
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Shifty Pony posted:I can assure you they are not too cute to kill. Sums up most advice itt
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