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Grendels Dad posted:Yeah, the genius move was to take Eisenberg and put him in the Luthor role, not to invent that kind of image for Eisenberg. Many people at the time thought Snyder intended (and failed, naturally) to ape the Joker. Yeah the genius of it is how hyper competent Luthor is overall (and how physically imposing he can be also even without his power armor stuff) in other recent media vs. how if the Snyder movies were "what if this poo poo happened in the real world and stuff actually mattered" then it's taken to the correct reality that guys like Luthor are closer to Eisenberg's portrayal or Edward Norton in Glass Onion and such. I liked that painting of the late Luthor Senior being the movie also, you know in like two seconds that like there's a dozen Luthor senior donated wings in several hospitals and he has a library named after him and has some visionary captain of industry enlightened business god reputation despite being just as much of an irredeemable sack of poo poo. Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 14:24 on Jun 5, 2023 |
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well why not posted:It was a smart choice to replace Luthor's traditional tycoon/magnate with a silicon valley type, and doubly so to get the exact simulacrum of Zuckerberg. On the other hand, I didn't hear a single mechanical clank while Luthor moved, and his skin appeared to look very lifelike
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Should have gone with Michael Cera if the goal was a simulacrum of Eisenberg's Zuck! In all seriousness, it is confounding how many reviewers at the time came away with the conclusion that Eisenberg was trying to imitate the Ledger Joker. How could anyone, especially someone who works a professional movie critic, seriously think that? Just another example of how Snyder does something to otherwise normal peoples' brains.
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Chairman Capone posted:Should have gone with Michael Cera if the goal was a simulacrum of Eisenberg's Zuck! All the snarking and wisecracking and the hair, and his Tom Waits theme song
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Wouldn't that just make him a riff on Tony Stark?
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It became a whole Narrative about a villain being a crazy guy being obviously the Joker. It's very 'guy who has only seen Boss Baby'.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Wouldn't that just make him a riff on Tony Stark? No, Tony Stark's theme songs were ACDC
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Barring "Purple Lamborghini", the Joker doesn't have a theme song, nor is he snarky.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Barring "Purple Lamborghini", the Joker doesn't have a theme song, nor is he snarky. The Joker absolutely has a theme song in BTAS, he even whistles along to it sometimes.
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Chairman Capone posted:Should have gone with Michael Cera if the goal was a simulacrum of Eisenberg's Zuck! Professional movie critics are people who are paid to have an opinion on movies, and a lot of them get paid for their bad opinions on movies, and a subset of them get paid to have specific bad opinions on movies.
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I still think the eisenberg performance was the big sticking point for a certain kind of nerd, the kind who posts on r/humanityfuckyeah, one that grew up with superman TAS and was so invested in the image of Lex as a big imposing powerful figure who seemed cool and could maybe be seen in a positive and morally justified light if you squinted and ignored the subtext. Beavis Lex being unambiguously a cringe loser ruined their fantasy of being able to say Luthor was actually the good guy and Superman was just some childish fantasy.
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Everyone expects/wants superheroes and villains to represent their good or bad dads, snyder gave them lost children and good moms.
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Name Change posted:Social Network came out in 2010 and Jesse Eisenberg playing unloved loser except edgier was not powerful visionary casting (Zombieland, American Ultra). What made the casting visionary was making that type of character a powerful billionaire.
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We've located the Snyder/Batfleck Fans in Russia Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:I still think the eisenberg performance was the big sticking point for a certain kind of nerd, the kind who posts on r/humanityfuckyeah, one that grew up with superman TAS and was so invested in the image of Lex as a big imposing powerful figure who seemed cool and could maybe be seen in a positive and morally justified light if you squinted and ignored the subtext. Also the DCAU gave us black Lex, which no adaptation has since.
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He's also several notches more pathetic than his portrayal of Zuck. His Zuck is a calm, cool, collected dude who dominates every room he's in. He's only awkward in the sense that he doesn't indulge in social niceties. Meanwhile, his Luthor is genuinely pathetic and can't even get through his own monologues without falling apart. His Luthor is actually more like the real Zuck than his Zuck was.
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Snowman_McK posted:He's also several notches more pathetic than his portrayal of Zuck. His Zuck is a calm, cool, collected dude who dominates every room he's in. He's only awkward in the sense that he doesn't indulge in social niceties. Meanwhile, his Luthor is genuinely pathetic and can't even get through his own monologues without falling apart. His Luthor is actually more like the real Zuck than his Zuck was. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1665222486915522564 Assepoester fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Jun 5, 2023 |
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yeah, I feel like the nerdy techbro sheen hadn't fallen off yet when BvS had come out, it hadn't become mainstream to openly mock them like it is now
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Assepoester posted:BvS Lex was Elon Musk before it was widely known how sad and pathetic Elon actually was. Oh I’m sure Elon’s stans would totally know about a female led fantasy comic from the 1980’s.
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Snyder talking about how he came to cast Eisenberg was the best, he straight up said to an interviewer "we talked to him about playing Jimmy Olsen but he's such a wacko I decided to cast him as Lex"
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Assepoester posted:BvS Lex was Elon Musk before it was widely known how sad and pathetic Elon actually was. It continues to amaze me just how completely Grimes leaving him for a trans woman absolutely broke Elon's brain.
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It also directly led to elon making a 420 joke about buying twitter which, unfortunately for all of is, apparently was legally binding
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Horizon Burning posted:yeah, I feel like the nerdy techbro sheen hadn't fallen off yet when BvS had come out, it hadn't become mainstream to openly mock them like it is now I'm reminded how the techbro villain from the DuckTales reboot was gonna be Mark Duckerberg. Boy, did they have amazing timing for that, they got to take the piss out of drat near every techbro stereotype right as it was current.
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Wake up, new details dropping https://twitter.com/VanityFair/status/1666069807341400065?t=vBnQ1iytuUAaB5IkuIxyPQ&s=19 I love everything about this. The characters all look amazing, the story sounds interesting and you know it's going to have that Snyder flair Cant wait for December
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Isn’t it going to be rated r, that’s gonna be fun if so
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McCloud posted:It also directly led to elon making a 420 joke about buying twitter which, unfortunately for all of is, apparently was legally binding That's only unfortunate because he's managed to keep the drat thing on life support instead of killing it. McCloud posted:Wake up, new details dropping lol, Sofia Boutella in a field of wheat is gonna be catnip to the haters.
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CelticPredator posted:Isn’t it going to be rated r, that’s gonna be fun if so In classic Zack fashion, they’re releasing the ”normal” version first, and later the R-rated version
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McCloud posted:In classic Zack fashion, they’re releasing the ”normal” version first, and later the R-rated version That’s stupid. It’s Netflix
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Man of Steel and Legend of the Guardians never got director's cuts. I wonder why.
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Another member with an axe to grind actually wields two flaming swords. South Korean actor Doona Bae plays Nemesis, a swordmaster who is partly mechanical. “These swords are powered by the gauntlets that she holds. The gauntlets are these ancient [artifacts] from her home world, and part of the rite of passage of being a warrior in her world is you have to cut your arm off, and then you put these kind of robot arms on. That allows you to wield these molten-metal blades,” Snyder says. She inhabits a mining world that’s ruled by the Imperium, which extracts everything useful while leaving little for the planet’s inhabitants. “Nemesis is able to navigate the alleys and nooks and crannies, and she’s been sort of protecting the exploited workers of that world,” :O
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McCloud posted:Wake up, new details dropping "Firefly, except good" appears to be the concept.
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Lol Netflix getting ahead of the 'release the Snyder Cut' calls early
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checkplease posted:Full penetration cut. Dolph Lundgren confirmed
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checkplease posted:Full penetration cut. Dammit this was my post
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McCloud posted:https://twitter.com/variety/status/1666088743487549441?s=46&t=yPIpoeD_1zo6-P4nl9Hh1g This part from the article is wild and really sticks out to me: quote:Snyder’s wife and longtime producing partner Deborah Snyder told Vanity Fair, “[Netflix film chairman Scott] Stuber was like, ‘On the service, under-two-hour movies really do better for some reason,’ even though you’ll binge-watch a series of eight episodes. Zack said, ‘If you ask me to make this less than two hours, I’m going to lose all the character. You won’t care about these people. It’s a character story about how people can change, and redemption, and what are you willing to fight for…’ So he said, ‘What if I give you two movies?’”
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Sci fi Seven Samurai? Zachy baby please don't screw this up. PLEASE!!!! edit: I just saw that there's eight warriors. That about sums it up.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Sci fi Seven Samurai? Zachy baby please don't screw this up. PLEASE!!!! Ah, so a sequel to Seven Samurai.
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