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This reminds me of Major General Stanley to the Constabulary: "You don't though?" I'm such a dork.
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Evil Fluffy posted:The duration of winter and the sheer volume of snowfall it gets would make it unlivable. Smaller and even mid-sized plants would be crushed and smothered by the weight of the dozens of feet of snow that builds up and even larger trees that somehow seeded and grew for decades between winters would die out due to being frozen and deprived of sunlight for years. "Nobody can really remember the last long winter and there's a tendency to exaggerate how harsh they are so the smallfolk feel grateful to the nobles for feeding them " boom done.
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) get praise for their excellent world-building is that more often than not, the world they made is a completely jumbled mess of nonsense that doesn't even try to play the "it's magic, I ain't got to explain poo poo" card, let alone play it effectively.
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I mean, on some level yeah. But my knowledge of the world has atrophied very hard since the show wrapped because I realized it’s all poo poo. The books still hold a place in my heart it’s just part with sclerosis
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define "care" e: in only a few words and with no references to current or former NFL seasons please Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 02:04 on Jun 11, 2023 |
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Blue Raider posted:Does anyone still care about these books? Both in the thread and in the world I mean i do OP but i cope by running a ttrpg game thats basically fanfiction so
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I’m genuinely curious because I read the books and watched the show, but it dropped out of the zeitgeist like a stone. I never hear a word about the next books out of anyone. House of the Dragon is there, but it seems to be succeeding in spite of it being a tie in for the show
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I do, because I am a fool. I even made a meme about it 
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Blue Raider posted:Does anyone still care about these books? Both in the thread and in the world I mean Personally I dont, really. I might end up reading them if they ever come out, but I might as well read a summary too cause frankly I already didn’t enjoyed the last two and I have the feeling whatever he manages to put out after all this time will probably even worst I’m here because I’m fascinated by the phenomenon of this man not writing his magnus opus while he keeps promising he is almost there and workin on anything else but that
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I don’t really care anymore, but I’ll definitely read them if they ever do because I like reading books, so why not.
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At the other hand, maybe the next book would be better than last 2 because to be any possibility of finishing that huge story in one or even 2 more books, he’s got to stop loving around and start resolving stuff instead of introducing new characters and plot threads and describing endless trips with all the details nobody asked for But can he do that? I think if he could the books would be the stores some years ago Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 13:08 on Jun 11, 2023 |
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Elias_Maluco posted:I’m here because I’m fascinated by the phenomenon of this man not writing his magnus opus while he keeps promising he is almost there and workin on anything else but that The Zeno's Paradox of literature
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mossyfisk posted:Sad to see so many brains rotted by the disease of "world building". Of course not. But if a guy literally says his books are based on details like 'what is Aragorn's tax policy?' then he has welcomed the critiques
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If you're the king it's a bad idea to hire the guy named "King Slayer" as your body guard imo.
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How many kings can you slay, though, statistically? Isn't a guy who's gotten it out of his system less likely to do it?
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It's also a lot easier to get past when you think the guy slayed the other king on your own behalf.
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81sidewinder posted:How many kings can you slay, though, statistically? Isn't a guy who's gotten it out of his system less likely to do it? King Baratheon, a guy who's slayed lots of kings is less likely to hurt you than a guy whose slayed kings supplies are low!
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"But you slay ONE king..."
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Cersei slayed more kings than anyone, and it’s not even close.
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81sidewinder posted:Of course not. But if a guy literally says his books are based on details like 'what is Aragorn's tax policy?' then he has welcomed the critiques it is pretty funny that if you read carefully tolkien had thought in much more detail about the political economy and logistics of gondor than gurm managed for even a single one of the seven kingdoms
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What Tolkien worked out really well was travel times to such a fine-toothed point that crazy nerds on YouTube can figure out what would happen day-by-day if Gandalf got the One Ring and decided to take THIS route over THAT route and so on. It's pretty wild.
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Because Tolkien was a huge nerd for details. He came up with Middle Earth to give his invented languages a world to stand in.
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Yeah Tolkien is like the one singular example of "good worldbuilding" that keeps coming up. He was literally a uni professor and had literally been in a war himself so if that's the standard we're setting there's not much hope for all the other authors. Like yeah any fantasy world other than Tolkien will have some stuff that doesn't really make sense, some lazy pop culture drop-ins, some vibes based kingdoms, that's just how it is. It's still fun to nitpick stuff, because come on, an 800 foot high ice wall?
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I hate to be the Gurm defender and I do repeat myself a lot itt but then again it seems like we mostly enjoy having the same discussions over and over again I mean we are goons in the bad thread so sorry but... this criticism of Gurm trying to be 'the realistic tolkein' is really misguided, even when you read gurms critique of tolkein it's obvious he is not 'bothered' by any unnatural elements or the fantasy of the setting, he is bothered by the mostly 'flat' characters, he is bothered by this being the prototype for D&D where characters seemingly have a moral alignment, you know aragorn will do the good thing cause he's a good guy, and you know that the logic of the story is such that doing good things will ultimately lead to good results. Gurm wanted a world where the characters are plagued by uncertainty the same way people in the real world are, where the moral choice is not always the one that will lead to good results, and where the characters 'realistically' deal with this poo poo, the wall isn't realistic, Jon standing on top of it and his mind is wandering all over the place conflicted about his role in society is, that is why I also defend gurms 'scale issues' all the time, they are stylistically very cool, gurm's world can't be faulted for its aesthetics, it really achieves all it sets out to do, other than tell a single finished story that is
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Cormac McCarthy is dead and the fat fucker is alive. this is the world we live in
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banned from Starbucks posted:Cormac McCarthy is dead and the fat fucker is alive. this is the world we live in He was 89, so he beat the average pretty handily. If GRRM makes it to 89 I will no doubt lose my mind even further than I already have.
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Platystemon posted:Cersei slayed more kings than anyone, and it’s not even close. Well, princes. Sticky princes.
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emanresu tnuocca posted:I hate to be the Gurm defender and I do repeat myself a lot itt but then again it seems like we mostly enjoy having the same discussions over and over again I mean we are goons in the bad thread so sorry but... 100% agreed. I don’t care how realistic or scalable or whatever the height of the wall is or the population of the North is in comparison to its arable land, just if things make sense in the context of the world and are relatively consistent - which they are! People react to things in a way I would expect, armies don’t magically grow or shrink depending on the needs of the plot, and the same can be said of travel distance or whatever. All of that was broken in the show, which was a contributor to a feeling of weightlessness and meaninglessness in the last season. GRRM is a great world builder. The world is super compelling. He just needs to write the drat story.
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I like how when Jaime killed the king and sat down after because he was tired, he picked the most uncomfortable seat possible that just stabs everyone who tries to sit in it
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It's at the top of a flight of stairs and he was wearing armour, I'm sure he was fine.
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Mike N Eich posted:100% agreed. I don’t care how realistic or scalable or whatever the height of the wall is or the population of the North is in comparison to its arable land, just if things make sense in the context of the world and are relatively consistent - which they are! People react to things in a way I would expect, armies don’t magically grow or shrink depending on the needs of the plot, and the same can be said of travel distance or whatever. All of that was broken in the show, which was a contributor to a feeling of weightlessness and meaninglessness in the last season. Same. The world building is what kept me going The problem is that he aint so good at actually writing a good story in that world
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Idk, american tolkien is kind of an exaggeration but 1-3 are still pretty good Germ’s love of food and tiddies aside
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Who doesn’t love food and titties tho? it’s like the great equalizer
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can't believe that george ronald reagan martin didn't have jon snow say mr night king'll tear down this wall
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this is so random but I was watching a youtube video about Tremorsfest 2023 and GRRM makes an appearance https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9bQD9zLX2k&t=830s Apparently he's a big Tremors fan and helped put on the festival. They say he is Santa Fe neighbors with actor Michael Gross and they have lots of talks about trains. lol.
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A series that hasn't been relevant in years. I can see why he'd be a fan.
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banned from Starbucks posted:Cormac McCarthy is dead and the fat fucker is alive. this is the world we live in McCarthy even managed to finish off the novel he'd been working on for 30 years just before he popped off.
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banned from Starbucks posted:A series that hasn't been relevant in years. I can see why he'd be a fan. Only because the Kevin Bacon series didn't get picked up.
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Just started checking the forum after a few years of hiatus. Has the tub of lard done anything of note since making the two last seasons of GoT as bad as the two last books of aSoIaF
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