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Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 17, 2004

Josh Lyman posted:

Silicon Power UD90 4TB is $170 during Prime Day though not technically a Prime Day sale: https://a.co/d/i8nvWgl

For a secondary NVMe for mass storage, am I right in thinking it’s a good deal? No DRAM but TLC NAND and performance is solid: https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/silicon-power-ud90-ssd-review

Get the MP34 instead in my opinion: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08Z7LN8NM?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

edit: I should have actually looked at the UD90 before posting because I didn't realize it was Gen 4. The faster transfer speed may be more beneficial for mass storage than dram cache, i suppose.

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Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:

Get the MP34 instead in my opinion: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08Z7LN8NM?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

edit: I should have actually looked at the UD90 before posting because I didn't realize it was Gen 4. The faster transfer speed may be more beneficial for mass storage than dram cache, i suppose.
Yeah I initially placed an order for the MP34 since it had been in my saved for later, but the benchmarks on the UD90 from Amazon customer images and Tom’s Hardware seem to indicate is the better option now. Write endurance is the same.

Josh Lyman fucked around with this message at 10:38 on Jul 12, 2023

Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 17, 2004

Hyte Revolt 3 available with 700W SFX PSU for $110: https://www.adorama.com/hyterev3bk.html

Another excellent SFF deal—basically not much more than the cost of a 700W SFX PSU on its own. Mini-ITX only, with a strong suggestion to use a 240/280mm AIO water cooler with it. Technically you can use an air cooler up to 140mm tall, but the case's airflow pattern is more designed around water cooling. GPU stands vertically in the front, and the radiator goes on the left side panel as exhaust. Negative pressure helps the GPU breathe in fresh air from the front. Similar to the Meshlicious/Meshroom, but rotated 90 degrees I suppose. Be careful with GPU compatibility though.


(the frame the radiator is connected to is hinged and closes shut) (also yes the fans in this render are backwards, you really don't want them as intake)

Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at 11:34 on Jul 12, 2023

The Grumbles
Jun 5, 2006
Now my PC is relegated to mostly living under my television, I'm starting to think that my Fractal meshify C, as gorgeous is it is, is a little big. It'd be nice to rebuild my machine in a more compact case that I can sit more neatly as a fake console in the living room.

Only thing is, there's an mATX board in there. Which was kind of expensive and which I'd prefer to hang onto if possible.

Is there a tiny compact case that'll fit that as well as my 3070 founders card? Do I need to bite the bullet and buy one of the smaller size motherboards if I want to go more compact?

I've also got my trusty cooler master 212 cpu cooler in there. It'd be great to find something that can also fit that - if such a case even exists - but I don't mind replacing the cooler if I need to.

Any thoughts or recommendations appreciated.

Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 17, 2004

Asus AP201 is a pretty good mATX case, but it's not really that much smaller than a Meshify C. It's about 3/4ths the height, just a little narrower, and actually a few centimeters deeper (front to back), or 33 liters compared to the Meshify C's 40.5.

Sama IM01 is a smaller mATX case "inspired" by the NR200. It has a smaller footprint than the Meshify C and is even shorter than the AP201, or about 22 liters total.

Both of those cases will fit your mATX board and 3070 FE, though the Sama IM01 is just a few mm too narrow to support the Hyper 212 (that's 158mm tall, IM01 only supports up to 155mm coolers). The Thermalright Assassin King should be short enough and is a good replacement for the 212. The IM01 also technically supports a full ATX power supply, but your life may be made easier by using an SFX one.

GruntyThrst
Oct 9, 2007

*clang*

Any glaring issues here, other than my dubious fiscal decisions? I noticed faster clock speeds of the DDR5 RAM isn't that much more expensive but everyone here seems to be going with 6000 for some reason so I chose that. I will have to mount one fan on my DH-15 higher than normal for that RAM to clear but they don't have a non-wacky shaped one with those stats.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($439.00 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 chromax.black 82.52 CFM CPU Cooler (Purchased For $0.00)
Motherboard: Asus ROG STRIX B650E-F GAMING WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard ($267.73 @ Amazon)
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Force Delta RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (Purchased For $0.00)
Video Card: PNY XLR8 Gaming VERTO EPIC-X RGB OC GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card ($1609.99 @ B&H)
Case: Fractal Design Torrent ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $0.00)
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($164.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $2581.61
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-12 10:20 EDT-0400

Edit: Silly me, forgot to specify use case. I want a gaming computer capable of attacking and dethroning God; set graphics to "all of them, yes please" at 4k.

GruntyThrst fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Jul 12, 2023

Slanderer
May 6, 2007
What country are you in? USA
Do you live near Microcenter? No
What are you using the system for? Web and Office? Gaming? Video or photo editing? Professional creative or scientific computing? Shitposting? Media + Gaming (still 1080p for now)

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600K 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor ($260.00)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler ($51.19 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z690 Pro RS ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($0.00)
Memory: Kingston Fury Renegade RGB 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory ($109.25 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($229.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: ASRock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6750 XT 12 GB Video Card ($359.99 @ Newegg)
Case: be quiet! Silent Base 802 ATX Mid Tower Case ($143.92)
Power Supply: Thermaltake TOUGHPOWER GF A3 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1264.33
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-12 12:10 EDT-0400


Does anything look terribly wrong here? I haven't built a PC in several years so I don't really know what I'm looking for, esp. wrt overclockable memory. I starter with the z690 Pro RS + i5-12600K bundle on newegg. The case I chose mostly because I'm used to having an enormous tower under my desk and I like the look of it.

The GPU might be a weird choice, but the RX 6750 XT doesn't look like a bad deal with current prices (right?), although I upgraded to that ASRock version over MSI because of reported heated issues with their cheaper 2-fan version.

I've never used an nvme boot drive before, but I should be OK with SN850X if my motherboard official lists support for the SN850...right?? Or is that SSD just overkill in general?

Im open to any suggested changes or replacements

Slanderer fucked around with this message at 17:10 on Jul 12, 2023

kavik
Nov 24, 2005

:ohdear: Oh dear... :ohdear:

GruntyThrst posted:

Any glaring issues here, other than my dubious fiscal decisions? I noticed faster clock speeds of the DDR5 RAM isn't that much more expensive but everyone here seems to be going with 6000 for some reason so I chose that.

From what I’ve been reading, DDR5-6000 is supposed to have the best balance of price, performance, stability, and whatever else for Ryzen 7000 series. Something about ratios between different clock cycles aligning correctly or something. I imagine that is even better since the articles were written with DDR5 prices falling.

Guzwar
Feb 21, 2006
Everything's coming up Milhouse!

  • What country are you in? Canada
  • Do you live near Microcenter? Nope
  • What are you using the system for? Gaming. No super-detailed fast shooters, just slow stuff, but I'd like to play Jagged Alliance 3 and Cities: Skylines 2 and not have my system crash. Maybe Valheim.
  • What's your budget? Aiming for under $2k Canada bucks.

My last build was 20 years ago, and then NCIX built some for me until they went under. I'm currently running a microPC: Intel i5 3.1gig, 8 gigs of ram, and GeForce GTX 750. It's definitely time to upgrade.

I took one of the pre-built PCPartsPicker systems and changed a few items around:

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/jK2Z4s

CPU AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($319.95@ ShopRBC)
CPU Cooler Thermalright Assassin X Refined SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($60.50 @ amazon.ca)
Motherboard ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard ($149.99@Newegg.ca)
Memory Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory ($113.99 @ Canada Computers)
Storage Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($129.97@NewEgg)
Video Card ASRock Phantom Gaming D OC Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card ($759.99 @ NewEgg)
Case MSI MPG GUNGNIR 110R ATX Mid Tower Case ($119.99@NewEgg)
Power Supply Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Memory Express)
Total: $1774.37

Are there any glaring issues here? Maybe go for a higher-priced mobo with integrated WiFi?

change my name
Aug 27, 2007

Legends die but anime is forever.

RIP The Lost Otakus.

Edit: Nevermind, it's Canada bux

change my name fucked around with this message at 18:00 on Jul 12, 2023

Shipon
Nov 7, 2005

kavik posted:

From what I’ve been reading, DDR5-6000 is supposed to have the best balance of price, performance, stability, and whatever else for Ryzen 7000 series. Something about ratios between different clock cycles aligning correctly or something. I imagine that is even better since the articles were written with DDR5 prices falling.

So far the memory controller can't really handle above 6000, so people would rather go for lower latency at that point

triple clutcher
Jul 3, 2012
My ten-year old system is toast and it's time to upgrade. I put this list together after about 15 minutes of research so I'm sure it could be improved upon.

edit to inline:
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i5-12600K 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 Black Edition 42 CFM CPU Cooler ($79.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B660M-A WIFI DDR4 Micro ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($104.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($49.99 @ B&H)
Video Card: PNY VERTO GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB Video Card ($299.99 @ B&H)
Case: Silverstone PS16B MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($74.26 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RM750e (2023) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Best Buy)
Total: $1009.17
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-12 16:28 EDT-0400

What country are you in? USA
Do you live near Microcenter? Nope
What are you using the system for? Mostly video games and some music recording
What's your budget? ~$1000, ideally less
If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution / refresh rate? How fancy do you want your graphics, from “it runs” to “Ultra preset as fast as possible”? A steady 60fps @ 1080p with high+ settings would be ideal.

triple clutcher fucked around with this message at 21:28 on Jul 12, 2023

Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 17, 2004

Guzwar posted:

  • What country are you in? Canada
  • Do you live near Microcenter? Nope
  • What are you using the system for? Gaming. No super-detailed fast shooters, just slow stuff, but I'd like to play Jagged Alliance 3 and Cities: Skylines 2 and not have my system crash. Maybe Valheim.
  • What's your budget? Aiming for under $2k Canada bucks.

My last build was 20 years ago, and then NCIX built some for me until they went under. I'm currently running a microPC: Intel i5 3.1gig, 8 gigs of ram, and GeForce GTX 750. It's definitely time to upgrade.

I took one of the pre-built PCPartsPicker systems and changed a few items around:

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/jK2Z4s

CPU AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($319.95@ ShopRBC)
CPU Cooler Thermalright Assassin X Refined SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($60.50 @ amazon.ca)
Motherboard ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard ($149.99@Newegg.ca)
Memory Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory ($113.99 @ Canada Computers)
Storage Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($129.97@NewEgg)
Video Card ASRock Phantom Gaming D OC Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card ($759.99 @ NewEgg)
Case MSI MPG GUNGNIR 110R ATX Mid Tower Case ($119.99@NewEgg)
Power Supply Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Memory Express)
Total: $1774.37

Are there any glaring issues here? Maybe go for a higher-priced mobo with integrated WiFi?

If you need the WiFi, then it's usually more economical to buy a mobo with it integrated than to buy a separate card. The cost of a separate card seems to be around $30 - $40 CAD going by PCPartPicker, while switching to a board with an included card is cheaper. In this case, because the B650M-HDV is such a cost-cut board, you're getting some additional features in the upgrade too. The B650M Pro RS WiFi seems solid.

My biggest objection has got to be with the case, though. I'm afraid that case is going to be starved for airflow due to how restrictive the front panel is. If you want RGB, I'd recommend something like the G360A instead, or the Lancool 216 for $10 more.

And a bit of money can be saved with the cooler if you get the AG400 instead. I guess Thermalright's price superiority in the US doesn't extend to Canada for whatever reason.

And a smaller nitpick, but there are some excellent deals with NVMe storage right now, and I'd consider this WD SN850X for just $5 more than your selected drive. It will be considerably faster.

Red Rox
Aug 24, 2004

Motel Midnight off the hook
I'm looking to upgrade my GPU. But to make it tough I have a small case and motherboard. My current GPU is a 1060 6GB ITX card.

I'm thinking of getting a 3060 12GB ITX like this one:
https://www.amazon.com.au/MSI-GEFORCE-Graphics-1792MHz-DisplayPort/dp/B08Z83QKWX

Any better recommendations for this size case/motherboard and under $375 USD?

Here's what it would look like:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Bs4jY9

CPU Intel i7-7700
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 103
Motherboard ASRock H110M-ITX/ac
Memory Ballistix Sport LT - DDR4 - 16 GB
Storage Samsung 870 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Video Card Geforce RTX 3060 AERO ITX 12GB
Case Thermaltake Core V1 Mini Tower
Power Supply EVGA 600W 80+ Gold

  • What country are you in? New Zealand
  • Do you live near Microcenter? Nope
  • What are you using the system for? BIG BOY GAMING
  • What's your budget? Under $375 USD

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

Guzwar posted:

  • What country are you in? Canada
  • Do you live near Microcenter? Nope
  • What are you using the system for? Gaming. No super-detailed fast shooters, just slow stuff, but I'd like to play Jagged Alliance 3 and Cities: Skylines 2 and not have my system crash. Maybe Valheim.
  • What's your budget? Aiming for under $2k Canada bucks.

My last build was 20 years ago, and then NCIX built some for me until they went under. I'm currently running a microPC: Intel i5 3.1gig, 8 gigs of ram, and GeForce GTX 750. It's definitely time to upgrade.

I took one of the pre-built PCPartsPicker systems and changed a few items around:

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/jK2Z4s

CPU AMD Ryzen 5 7600X 4.7 GHz 6-Core Processor ($319.95@ ShopRBC)
CPU Cooler Thermalright Assassin X Refined SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($60.50 @ amazon.ca)
Motherboard ASRock B650M-HDV/M.2 Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard ($149.99@Newegg.ca)
Memory Corsair Vengeance 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL36 Memory ($113.99 @ Canada Computers)
Storage Samsung 970 Evo Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($129.97@NewEgg)
Video Card ASRock Phantom Gaming D OC Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB Video Card ($759.99 @ NewEgg)
Case MSI MPG GUNGNIR 110R ATX Mid Tower Case ($119.99@NewEgg)
Power Supply Thermaltake Toughpower GF3 TT Premium 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Memory Express)
Total: $1774.37

Are there any glaring issues here? Maybe go for a higher-priced mobo with integrated WiFi?

Don't use PCPartPicker for the cooler. A near identical Thermalright model is $21 - https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0BN9SBQ5Y/?coliid=I1CKF1D9ICFF5P&colid=2O1GXHP9AHBPB&psc=1&ref_=list_c_wl_lv_ov_lig_dp_it
A Peerless Assassin is $41 - https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0BN628JRY/?coliid=I3VZ3LSDAKT874&colid=1TLBPO65S0KTZ&psc=1&ref_=list_c_wl_lv_ov_lig_dp_it

Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 17, 2004

triple clutcher posted:

My ten-year old system is toast and it's time to upgrade. I put this list together after about 15 minutes of research so I'm sure it could be improved upon.

What country are you in? USA
Do you live near Microcenter? Nope
What are you using the system for? Mostly video games and some music recording
What's your budget? ~$1000, ideally less
If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution / refresh rate? How fancy do you want your graphics, from “it runs” to “Ultra preset as fast as possible”? A steady 60fps @ 1080p with high+ settings would be ideal.

Yeah, there are some things you're overspending on here. For starters, there's a newer version of the 212 Black that's a shitload cheaper, though I'd probably go with the Thermalright Assassin X. And I'd stick with the cheaper Gskill Ripjaws here. It'll actually be faster do to the tighter timings, even.

Unless you plan on putting an optical drive in this thing, I'd find another case too. I'd try to find one with support for full ATX motherboards so you can take advantage of one of these combo deals for the 12600K + motherboard. The $60-off promo code applies on top of the combo savings, bringing the prices below what you're paying in that list (this one has the full atx version of the board you picked. The P400A Digital is a good value right now, and you can unplug the RGB if you want. Or there's the Fractal Deisgn Pop Air series if you do want an optical drive.

Guzwar
Feb 21, 2006
Everything's coming up Milhouse!


Hot drat, 21 bucks, thank you!

Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:

If you need the WiFi, then it's usually more economical to buy a mobo with it integrated than to buy a separate card. The cost of a separate card seems to be around $30 - $40 CAD going by PCPartPicker, while switching to a board with an included card is cheaper. In this case, because the B650M-HDV is such a cost-cut board, you're getting some additional features in the upgrade too. The B650M Pro RS WiFi seems solid.

My biggest objection has got to be with the case, though. I'm afraid that case is going to be starved for airflow due to how restrictive the front panel is. If you want RGB, I'd recommend something like the G360A instead, or the Lancool 216 for $10 more.

And a bit of money can be saved with the cooler if you get the AG400 instead. I guess Thermalright's price superiority in the US doesn't extend to Canada for whatever reason.

And a smaller nitpick, but there are some excellent deals with NVMe storage right now, and I'd consider this WD SN850X for just $5 more than your selected drive. It will be considerably faster.

Cool beans, thank you for that. The CPU you linked was one of my original picks, but I removed it because it may require a bracket to mount on to that board and .. like, do I 3d print that at home? As for the RGB case, I'm not married to it. Limited desktop space requires the PC to be under the table so it doesn't have to be pretty, just functional and quiet and able to hold everything without melting.

Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 17, 2004

Red Rox posted:

I'm looking to upgrade my GPU. But to make it tough I have a small case and motherboard. My current GPU is a 1060 6GB ITX card.

I'm thinking of getting a 3060 12GB ITX like this one:
https://www.amazon.com.au/MSI-GEFORCE-Graphics-1792MHz-DisplayPort/dp/B08Z83QKWX

Any better recommendations for this size case/motherboard and under $375 USD?

Here's what it would look like:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Bs4jY9

CPU Intel i7-7700
CPU Cooler Cooler Master Hyper 103
Motherboard ASRock H110M-ITX/ac
Memory Ballistix Sport LT - DDR4 - 16 GB
Storage Samsung 870 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive
Video Card Geforce RTX 3060 AERO ITX 12GB
Case Thermaltake Core V1 Mini Tower
Power Supply EVGA 600W 80+ Gold

  • What country are you in? New Zealand
  • Do you live near Microcenter? Nope
  • What are you using the system for? BIG BOY GAMING
  • What's your budget? Under $375 USD

According to the Core V1's product page, its GPU clearance is 255mm, which means it should be able to accomodate most dual-fan coolers. So you can jump up to a 4060, 4060 Ti, or 6700 XT most likely, as long as you're careful about which models you buy (or even a 4070, probably). Nvidia's low-end has been getting dumped on lately for being unremarkable upgrades over the last gen, especially the 4060 Ti, but the 4060 isn't irredeemable, and I think I might consider one over a similarly priced 6700 XT. And looking at NZ pricing, the 6700 XT is actually a decent bit more expensive right now. Something like this should fit and it's right on the edge for your budget.

Though I have to say that the rest of your system is getting long in the tooth too, and you might experience some bottlenecking from your CPU or memory in some games. You should start considering a full system upgrade, in my opinion.

Zero VGS
Aug 16, 2002
ASK ME ABOUT HOW HUMAN LIVES THAT MADE VIDEO GAME CONTROLLERS ARE WORTH MORE
Lipstick Apathy
I have a Core V1 and the Founders Edition 3080 fits exactly in it. But if you get something even slightly thicker (i.e. 2.5 slot cooler instead of 2) then that poo poo isn't going in.

edit:

Here's a 3080 FE next to some other 3080 model. That second one won't work because of how it goes significantly over the bracket:

Zero VGS fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Jul 12, 2023

triple clutcher
Jul 3, 2012

Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:

Yeah, there are some things you're overspending on here. For starters, there's a newer version of the 212 Black that's a shitload cheaper, though I'd probably go with the Thermalright Assassin X. And I'd stick with the cheaper Gskill Ripjaws here. It'll actually be faster do to the tighter timings, even.

Unless you plan on putting an optical drive in this thing, I'd find another case too. I'd try to find one with support for full ATX motherboards so you can take advantage of one of these combo deals for the 12600K + motherboard. The $60-off promo code applies on top of the combo savings, bringing the prices below what you're paying in that list (this one has the full atx version of the board you picked. The P400A Digital is a good value right now, and you can unplug the RGB if you want. Or there's the Fractal Deisgn Pop Air series if you do want an optical drive.
Noted on the memory and cooler. I just looked for familiar brands for those.

I went with microATX because I like having a small, unobtrusive case. If anything I may just reuse my current one, since it's been a champ at keeping out dust and cat hair with no effort on my part.

Thank you for the guidance!

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?
I can't justify buying multiple drives atm, but drat

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B25M8FXX/

Crucial P3 Plus 4TB PCIe for ~$140 with code:CREATORFAVPD at checkout

e:coupon seems to be dead now; worked when i tested it before

Rinkles fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Jul 12, 2023

Zero VGS
Aug 16, 2002
ASK ME ABOUT HOW HUMAN LIVES THAT MADE VIDEO GAME CONTROLLERS ARE WORTH MORE
Lipstick Apathy

Rinkles posted:

I can't justify buying multiple drives atm, but drat

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B25M8FXX/

Crucial P3 Plus 4TB PCIe for ~$140 with code:CREATORFAVPD at checkout

e:coupon seems to be dead now; worked when i tested it before

I woulda jumped on that with the coupon, but honestly I think I can get by with deleting/re-downloading games for another year, and by then those'll be sub $100 or 8tb will be the same price, I hope.

Minidust
Nov 4, 2009

Keep bustin'
okay I've been peeking in this thread for a while, about time I put together one of these lists while the Amazon/Newegg deals are going.

I'm basically starting with aesthetics and working backwards, so the items I'm most committed to are the case and overpriced motherboard (thanks to Dr Video Games earlier for pointing out the airflow-friendly alternative to my original case pick). Other items are more negotiable, although I'm willing to pay a bit more if I like the look of something.

Not sure if gaming at 4K60+ while streaming is viable on this build, but I do plan to buy a separate 1440p monitor eventually (since my main 4K is shared by a lot of other devices). So theoretically I could try a game at 4K and then switch over to the 1440p if I like the performance gains.

Already purchased the storage thanks to this thread. CPU appears to be a good sale on Amazon but I'm open to other AM5 options. Not counting the monitor in the cost totals since I've already been using it for a couple years.

In the U.S., very close to a Micro Center!

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7900X 4.7 GHz 12-Core Processor ($356.15)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken 240 RGB 78.02 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($159.99 @ Newegg Sellers)
Motherboard: NZXT N7 B650E ATX AM5 Motherboard ($316.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL32 Memory ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (Purchased For $229.99)
Video Card: Gigabyte AERO OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card ($929.03 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT H510 Flow ATX Mid Tower Case ($139.63 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 PE 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Gigabyte M32U 31.5" 3840 x 2160 144 Hz Monitor (Purchased For $0.00)
Total: $2331.76

Red Rox
Aug 24, 2004

Motel Midnight off the hook

Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:

According to the Core V1's product page, its GPU clearance is 255mm, which means it should be able to accomodate most dual-fan coolers. So you can jump up to a 4060, 4060 Ti, or 6700 XT most likely, as long as you're careful about which models you buy (or even a 4070, probably). Nvidia's low-end has been getting dumped on lately for being unremarkable upgrades over the last gen, especially the 4060 Ti, but the 4060 isn't irredeemable, and I think I might consider one over a similarly priced 6700 XT. And looking at NZ pricing, the 6700 XT is actually a decent bit more expensive right now. Something like this should fit and it's right on the edge for your budget.

Though I have to say that the rest of your system is getting long in the tooth too, and you might experience some bottlenecking from your CPU or memory in some games. You should start considering a full system upgrade, in my opinion.

Cool, thanks man. The case is pretty small but yeah you're probably right that I can squeeze a slightly longer card in there.

And yes I really should be upgrading the whole thing rather than just patching this one up.

Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 17, 2004

Minidust posted:

okay I've been peeking in this thread for a while, about time I put together one of these lists while the Amazon/Newegg deals are going.

I'm basically starting with aesthetics and working backwards, so the items I'm most committed to are the case and overpriced motherboard (thanks to Dr Video Games earlier for pointing out the airflow-friendly alternative to my original case pick). Other items are more negotiable, although I'm willing to pay a bit more if I like the look of something.

Not sure if gaming at 4K60+ while streaming is viable on this build, but I do plan to buy a separate 1440p monitor eventually (since my main 4K is shared by a lot of other devices). So theoretically I could try a game at 4K and then switch over to the 1440p if I like the performance gains.

Already purchased the storage thanks to this thread. CPU appears to be a good sale on Amazon but I'm open to other AM5 options. Not counting the monitor in the cost totals since I've already been using it for a couple years.

In the U.S., very close to a Micro Center!

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7900X 4.7 GHz 12-Core Processor ($356.15)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken 240 RGB 78.02 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($159.99 @ Newegg Sellers)
Motherboard: NZXT N7 B650E ATX AM5 Motherboard ($316.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL32 Memory ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (Purchased For $229.99)
Video Card: Gigabyte AERO OC GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card ($929.03 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT H510 Flow ATX Mid Tower Case ($139.63 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Thermaltake Toughpower GF1 PE 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Gigabyte M32U 31.5" 3840 x 2160 144 Hz Monitor (Purchased For $0.00)
Total: $2331.76

You should see if the Aero is in stock at your micro center location since it's a decent bit cheaper there: https://www.microcenter.com/product/662007/gigabyte-nvidia-geforce-rtx-4070-ti-aero-overclocked-triple-fan-12gb-gddr6x-pcie-40-graphics-card

You can get the 7900X plus memory for a decent bundle price too: https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006210/amd-ryzen-9-7900x-raphael-am5,-g-skill-flare-x5-32gb-ddr5-6000-dual-channel,-cpu-ram-bundle

Or 7700X plus memory for $320: https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006208/amd-ryzen-7-7700x-raphael-am5,-g-skill-flare-x5-32gb-ddr5-6000-dual-channel,-cpu-ram-bundle

change my name
Aug 27, 2007

Legends die but anime is forever.

RIP The Lost Otakus.

God Micro Center owns, I just picked up an R5 3600 and an ASrock B520 MOBO for a friend's upgrade for $120 total

Dom
Feb 9, 2004
yarrrr


I've been stalking this thread and various reddit threads, and I'm almost done purchasing everything for a new build (rough budget of ~$2000 USD for mid-high tier gaming rig):

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 4.5 GHz 8-Core Processor (Purchased For $279.32)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (Purchased For $30.32)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650-P WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard (Purchased For $170.66)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory (Purchased For $0.01)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (Purchased For $89.99)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (Purchased For $89.99)
Storage: Samsung 870 Evo 4 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Purchased For $169.99)
Storage: Samsung 870 Evo 4 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Purchased For $169.99)
Video Card: MSI GAMING X TRIO GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card ($717.19 @ Newegg ZIPTECH code)
Case: Fractal Design Torrent ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $127.98)
Power Supply: Corsair RM1000e (2023) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Custom: Thermalright ASF-RED AM5 CPU Holder, Corrective Anti-Bending Fixing Frame, AM5 Full-fit Fixed Non-Marking Mounter, AM5 Anti-Bending Contact Frame, CPU Cooler Standard (Purchased For $7.67)

1. Given I think I want to go Nvidia, is the 4070 Ti a decent choice for the budget? Worth to go OC version (what's the diff)?
2. Total build is < 600W, is it overkill for that 1000W, or should I go with something like the 850W https://www.newegg.com/corsair-hx-series-hx850-850-w/p/N82E16817139311
3. Did I gently caress up on any other parts of the build?

Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 17, 2004

jesus christ, that storage

anyway, say no to OC versions of gpus if they cost extra, they get you like 1 or 2% more perf at most. and i would go with the hx850, that's actually an insanely good deal. 1000W is overkill. while it's true that the peak of the efficiency curve is at arout 50% of a PSU's capacity, the difference is usually by just a few percent and the platinum psu will be more efficient across the board.

the thermalright "anti-bending frame" seems entirely unnecessary to me since AM5 CPUs aren't known to flex in that socket (to my knowledge). that's more of an lga1700 thing

Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at 00:07 on Jul 13, 2023

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



4K monitors are still way too expensive, but Amazon has a few that are almost half off

https://www.ign.com/articles/the-best-gaming-monitor-deals-for-amazon-prime-day

NomNomNom
Jul 20, 2008
Please Work Out

Dom posted:

I've been stalking this thread and various reddit threads, and I'm almost done purchasing everything for a new build (rough budget of ~$2000 USD for mid-high tier gaming rig):

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X 4.5 GHz 8-Core Processor (Purchased For $279.32)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler (Purchased For $30.32)
Motherboard: MSI PRO B650-P WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard (Purchased For $170.66)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL36 Memory (Purchased For $0.01)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (Purchased For $89.99)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850X 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive (Purchased For $89.99)
Storage: Samsung 870 Evo 4 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Purchased For $169.99)
Storage: Samsung 870 Evo 4 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive (Purchased For $169.99)
Video Card: MSI GAMING X TRIO GeForce RTX 4070 Ti 12 GB Video Card ($717.19 @ Newegg ZIPTECH code)
Case: Fractal Design Torrent ATX Mid Tower Case (Purchased For $127.98)
Power Supply: Corsair RM1000e (2023) 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Custom: Thermalright ASF-RED AM5 CPU Holder, Corrective Anti-Bending Fixing Frame, AM5 Full-fit Fixed Non-Marking Mounter, AM5 Anti-Bending Contact Frame, CPU Cooler Standard (Purchased For $7.67)

1. Given I think I want to go Nvidia, is the 4070 Ti a decent choice for the budget? Worth to go OC version (what's the diff)?
2. Total build is < 600W, is it overkill for that 1000W, or should I go with something like the 850W https://www.newegg.com/corsair-hx-series-hx850-850-w/p/N82E16817139311
3. Did I gently caress up on any other parts of the build?


This almost exactly what I'm building! Sup microcenter 7700x buddy. I chose some cheaper storage (Inland 2tb) and opted for the RX 6700xt deal on Amazon, just couldn't bring myself to pay the Nvidia tax for now.

change my name
Aug 27, 2007

Legends die but anime is forever.

RIP The Lost Otakus.

change my name posted:

God Micro Center owns, I just picked up an R5 3600 and an ASrock B520 MOBO for a friend's upgrade for $120 total

Huh, AMD stealth updated the 3600. This one has a Wraith Spire cooler included, whereas the one I bought in 2020 for myself had a Wraith Stealth

Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 17, 2004

FlamingLiberal posted:

4K monitors are still way too expensive, but Amazon has a few that are almost half off

https://www.ign.com/articles/the-best-gaming-monitor-deals-for-amazon-prime-day

I made some posts in the monitors thread over the last few days about the best deals in my opinion. The Gigabyte M27U is the midrange 4K gaming monitor to get right now at $499 in my opinion. If you want 32", then the Dell G3223Q is solid for $599. If you want a high-end HDR display, then there's the Samsung Odyssey Neo G7 for around $850, or if you get it from Samsung's site and qualify for their offers program, you can get it for $679. It doesn't seem to ask for verification when signing up for their education program. The Neo G7 is my monitor and it's excellent in my opinion, but it has its issues. The local dimming can make bright text on dark backgrounds look bad due to the bloom (but it can be disabled when not using HDR), and some people report distracting levels of backlight flicker when using VRR (though it's not something I've experienced). Also not everybody likes the curve, but I'm a freak who's grown to love it.

Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at 01:09 on Jul 13, 2023

Dom
Feb 9, 2004
yarrrr


Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:

jesus christ, that storage

yeah might've gotten a little overexcited with the deals but 1 of the 4Tb will go in my old system :)

Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:

anyway, say no to OC versions of gpus if they cost extra, they get you like 1 or 2% more perf at most. and i would go with the hx850, that's actually an insanely good deal.
...
the thermalright "anti-bending frame" seems entirely unnecessary to me since AM5 CPUs aren't known to flex in that socket (to my knowledge). that's more of an lga1700 thing

Thank you, that was super helpful. I'll probably return the paste and frame for some better-ish paste.

NomNomNom posted:

This almost exactly what I'm building! Sup microcenter 7700x buddy.

:hfive:

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

OMBUDSMAN
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Clapping Larry

NomNomNom posted:

Sup microcenter 7700x buddy. I chose some cheaper storage (Inland 2tb) and opted for the RX 6700xt deal on Amazon

:hfive: there are dozens of us

dozens!!

Krime
Jul 30, 2003

Somebody has to do the scoring around here.

Gunshow Poophole posted:

:hfive: there are dozens of us

dozens!!

I've got a microcenter close.

This is calling my name

https://www.microcenter.com/product/5006461/intel-core-i7-13700k,-asus-z790-p-prime-wifi-ddr5,-gskill-32gb-ddr5-6000-kit,-computer-build-bundle

daslog
Dec 10, 2008

#essereFerrari
What country are you in? USA
Do you live near Microcenter? Never heard of it
What are you using the system for? Balder's Gate 3
What's your budget? $1000 ish
If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution / refresh rate? 1080P 60MHZ. I just need something nice.
If you’re doing professional work, what software do you need to use? Would like to play Balder's Gate 3 at the recommended specs

So I looked up the Balder's gate 3 specs here: https://www.pcgamesn.com/baldurs-gate-3/system-requirements

The guide calls for an i7-8700k or an AMD Ryzen 5 3600. My current system is an i5-8400 with a pre-covid GTX 1080 that is slowly dying. Every 8 years or so I build a new PC to whatever new game I want to play and live with it until it's time for the next one.

What I don't get is how much more the Intel based system is vs the AMD one. What am I doing wrong?

Intel build
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core OEM/Tray Processor ($355.75 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 UD ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($104.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($121.08 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI VENTUS GP OC GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB Video Card ($369.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Zalman S3 ATX Mid Tower Case ($52.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850x (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1334.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-12 21:50 EDT-0400

AMD Build

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($94.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: MSI B550 GAMING GEN3 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($99.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($104.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($121.08 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 6500 XT 4 GB Video Card ($174.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Zalman S3 ATX Mid Tower Case ($52.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850x (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $769.01
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-12 21:50 EDT-0400

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!
We're in the 13xxx series of Intel chips. The Intel build you listed is 5 generations out of date.

Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 17, 2004

daslog posted:

What country are you in? USA
Do you live near Microcenter? Never heard of it
What are you using the system for? Balder's Gate 3
What's your budget? $1000 ish
If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution / refresh rate? 1080P 60MHZ. I just need something nice.
If you’re doing professional work, what software do you need to use? Would like to play Balder's Gate 3 at the recommended specs

So I looked up the Balder's gate 3 specs here: https://www.pcgamesn.com/baldurs-gate-3/system-requirements

The guide calls for an i7-8700k or an AMD Ryzen 5 3600. My current system is an i5-8400 with a pre-covid GTX 1080 that is slowly dying. Every 8 years or so I build a new PC to whatever new game I want to play and live with it until it's time for the next one.

What I don't get is how much more the Intel based system is vs the AMD one. What am I doing wrong?

Intel build
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core OEM/Tray Processor ($355.75 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 UD ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($104.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($121.08 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI VENTUS GP OC GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER 8 GB Video Card ($369.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Zalman S3 ATX Mid Tower Case ($52.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850x (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1334.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-12 21:50 EDT-0400

AMD Build

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($94.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: MSI B550 GAMING GEN3 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($99.99 @ B&H)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory ($104.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($121.08 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 6500 XT 4 GB Video Card ($174.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Zalman S3 ATX Mid Tower Case ($52.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RM850x (2021) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $769.01
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2023-07-12 21:50 EDT-0400

The 8700K is a 5-years-old processor that is no longer being manufactured and is expensive due to its rarity. Same story with the 2060 Super GPU. The specs in that article aren't meant to be taken as a guide for the exact system you should build but instead be taken as the minimum for a good experience on presumably high settings (with the minimum probably being for 30fps low settings). You can and should aim your sights higher for a modern system built in 2023. In my opinion, you should start with one of these 12600K + motherboard combos (the $60-off coupon code stacks with the combo discount to bring those under $300) and something like this list to flesh it out. The systems you've specced out above are barely any better than your old one and might actually be worse in some ways, while this one would be a noteworthy upgrade.

edit: Be aware that some of these prices are discounts that are a part of Newegg's Fantastech sale, which will end in a couple days.

edit 2: Just to be perfectly clear here, your current system will probably run Baldur's Gate 3 just fine with some settings tweaks. If you really want, you can download the early access now and try it before making any purchases. I think the above build would be a decent upgrade for you, but if you think you can hold off for a while longer, then maybe you should do so because the GPU market in particular is not great right now. Just my two cents.

Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at 05:45 on Jul 13, 2023

Minidust
Nov 4, 2009

Keep bustin'
Thanks!! Don't have that graphics card in stock by me BUT those CPU bundles are lookin pretty good. I'm still wavering on the GPU front anyway, part of me still wants to say screw it and jump on the first 4090 that gets a decent sale aaahhh :shepspends:

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Dom
Feb 9, 2004
yarrrr


Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:

If you want 32", then the Dell G3223Q is solid for $599

you drat rite I want 32" in me
I've just been hemorrhaging $$$ the past 2 days, but I picked this up, thanks for the heads up! 15% on rakuten plus the $120 off w AMEX offer means it's now a sub-$400 monitor :2monocle:

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