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One Piece Manga Thread: Mr Beast Pirates Gave 1000 Children Smile Fruit
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Jul 15, 2023 11:17
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Irony Be My Shield posted:One Piece Manga Thread: Mr Beast Pirates Gave 1000 Children Smile Fruit It’s better than what we have now. And heck, probably half the ones we’ve had
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Jul 15, 2023 11:36
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how did we not have that thread title years ago
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Jul 15, 2023 14:12
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Could just be an artistic choice but the anime seems to be implying Kaido’s drunk form is his awakened form. The changes were subtle in the manga but they’re more explicit here https://twitter.com/newworldartur/status/1680384385554497537?s=20 EDIT: Though I like this theory on how awakenings work, that says Kaido failed his awakening because his mind isn’t really in tune with his fruit and Momonosuke will be the one to awaken it https://twitter.com/sanji_joestar/status/1665462318627528707?s=20 https://twitter.com/sanji_joestar/status/1665462529793949699?s=20 RatHat fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Jul 16, 2023 |
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Jul 16, 2023 05:00
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I resumed reading after fish man island really put a pause on my progress and I’m enjoying punk hazard. I just wanted to pop in and say that I’m very excited for the last few chapters of this arc because Oda has started drawing maps of what’s happening and that’s when stuff really goes off.
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Jul 16, 2023 05:02
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fishman island and punk hazard both suck (except for the fisher tiger flashback) zou is when oda starts telling gud story again
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Jul 16, 2023 05:12
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BoosterDuck posted:fishman island and punk hazard both suck (except for the fisher tiger flashback) holefoods posted:I resumed reading after fish man island really put a pause on my progress and I’m enjoying punk hazard. I just wanted to pop in and say that I’m very excited for the last few chapters of this arc because Oda has started drawing maps of what’s happening and that’s when stuff really goes off.
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Jul 16, 2023 05:20
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Fishman island is fine, the hate it gets I feel is often overblown and unjustified, mainly because most people's experiences with it are colored from going into it off of the highs of Sabaody -> Marineford and the timeskip. Punk Hazard however is easily a bottom 3 arc in the entire series for me, especially when you look at the series in a holistic sense and with the benefit of hindsight, just how terribly out of character a lot of the crew is, and how lackluster any of the payoffs are until the very end. A cool idea for an arc, but with terrible execution.
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Jul 16, 2023 05:21
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RatHat posted:Could just be an artistic choice but the anime seems to be implying Kaido’s drunk form is his awakened form. The changes were subtle in the manga but they’re more explicit here He's been glowing a different shade of bluish-purple for a few episodes whenever he's gone into his drunk states yeah. No real confirmation on if Kaido has awakening or not though. Anyways this tweet reminded me of a funny image a friend was sharing after this episode aired: 
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Jul 16, 2023 05:27
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Jul 16, 2023 05:34
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https://twitter.com/newworldartur/status/1680342586140114945 lmao the anime just killed Luffy and went on a week break Sadly they didn't do the "Winner: Kaido" before the end of the episode.
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Jul 16, 2023 05:38
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Julias posted:Fishman island is fine, the hate it gets I feel is often overblown and unjustified, mainly because most people's experiences with it are colored from going into it off of the highs of Sabaody -> Marineford and the timeskip. Punk Hazard however is easily a bottom 3 arc in the entire series for me, especially when you look at the series in a holistic sense and with the benefit of hindsight, just how terribly out of character a lot of the crew is, and how lackluster any of the payoffs are until the very end. A cool idea for an arc, but with terrible execution. I very much enjoyed the backstory bits of fishman island but the present time action didn’t do anything for me. I felt that all of the other arcs connected any flashback portions to the present in a fairly powerful way and that just didn’t land for me with with Hody. If it had been a fairly short arc (maybe like 30 chapters) I think I would’ve enjoyed it a lot more than I did. I certainly wouldn’t say I hated it (I don’t think I’d say that about any part I’ve read so far), mostly just that I was very bored.
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Jul 16, 2023 05:38
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Eiba posted:What a weird thing to post in response to someone enjoying Punk Hazard. The arcs that were poorly regarded weekly aren't that bad to binge, and even at it worst One Piece is really fun. Punk Hazard was super painful to read week to week esp since you’d come back after a break and weeks away from some group then it would check in on them and it would be “still running from killer gas” status. Reading it all in one batch is not remotely as bad. Fishman Island was great even on first read minus the Sanji poo poo (post time skip Sanji still has a lot to make up for).
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Jul 16, 2023 05:42
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lol
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Jul 16, 2023 05:42
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Fishman Island would have been vastly improved by removing everything having to do with Vander Decken and Sanji's "comedic" bullshit. Everything else wrong with the arc just required minor tweeks to fix or improve. Post timeskip Sanji is bad, and it's real loving insane that the only stretch where he was good was when our 21 year old cook was engaged to a 16 year old. Vander Decken is a terrible character who is only there to be a galactic level creep who serves as the shower inducing deus ex machina to get key story beats set up. The rest of the arc has an actual good theme and one of the best backstory flashbacks in the series. It's just missing a few connecting touches that would truly make it shine. Like, all these chapters later who would have thought we'd feel bad for a Celestial Dragon who got killed?
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Jul 16, 2023 06:00
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Pudding should have been 19
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Jul 16, 2023 06:09
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lmao
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Jul 16, 2023 06:27
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Guy A. Person posted:Punk Hazard was super painful to read week to week esp since you’d come back after a break and weeks away from some group then it would check in on them and it would be “still running from killer gas” status. Reading it all in one batch is not remotely as bad.
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Jul 16, 2023 06:44
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Punk hazard still sucks when reading today.
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Jul 16, 2023 06:47
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Julias posted:Fishman island is fine, the hate it gets I feel is often overblown and unjustified, mainly because most people's experiences with it are colored from going into it off of the highs of Sabaody -> Marineford and the timeskip. Punk Hazard however is easily a bottom 3 arc in the entire series for me, especially when you look at the series in a holistic sense and with the benefit of hindsight, just how terribly out of character a lot of the crew is, and how lackluster any of the payoffs are until the very end. A cool idea for an arc, but with terrible execution. The entire arc feels kind of off for me especially with how they just straight up kill? Monet which as pointed out feels kind of "out of character" given how the series rarely actually kills off characters and it doesn't really feel like the strawhats achieved or did much overall even though they did, narratively. Gyges posted:Fishman Island would have been vastly improved by removing everything having to do with Vander Decken and Sanji's "comedic" bullshit. Everything else wrong with the arc just required minor tweeks to fix or improve. I agree with all of this for sure though. But also I actually like the majority of the fishman island arc.
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Jul 16, 2023 07:07
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I read Punk Hazard for the first time after it had already come out and it was fine, I had no idea it had a bad reputation till years later. Outside of the joy of Law's belated realization that Luffy is NOT a strategic mastermind/genius, the payoff of Law critiquing Vergo for having stayed stagnant over the years while Law himself had been growing in strength was great.
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Jul 16, 2023 07:11
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Irony Be My Shield posted:One Piece Manga Thread: Mr Beast Pirates Gave 1000 Children Smile Fruit Yes
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Jul 16, 2023 07:38
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Scholtz posted:https://twitter.com/newworldartur/status/1680342586140114945 The final frame of Kaido make me feel pain in my heart. I didnt expect that
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Jul 16, 2023 09:34
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Scholtz posted:https://twitter.com/newworldartur/status/1680342586140114945 It's been 4 years since Wano started. Get hype.
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Jul 16, 2023 09:59
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Gyges posted:Vander Decken is a terrible character who is only there to be a galactic level creep who serves as the shower inducing deus ex machina to get key story beats set up. loving  Vander Decken being a pathetic creep who is only a threat because of his high-tier power is a good bit, as is the way his underlings and he himself keeps dunking on him. "I need to send invitations to all my friends...! Oh right, I don't have any friends..."
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Jul 16, 2023 10:17
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The biggest issue with Fishman Island to me is that we spent all this time building up the villains (with actually pretty good backstory that tied into previously existing characters in the case of Hody Jones) only to have them clowned on absurdly to establish how strong the Straw Hats are post-timeskip. It made all the time introducing the villains seem like a waste because they never really got to establish themselves as threats. Punk Hazard has the same issue to some degree.
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Jul 16, 2023 10:24
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Fishman Island is fuckin great because it's "WHAT IF: Luffy was One Punch Man". OPM also builds up villains for a long time to build the hype for them getting dunked on. So yeah conceptually I love it and I think the arc is fun, but the execution could be better for sure. I think even with that premise it could have cooler villains, better fights, and overall just better characters story and jokes across the board. The only thing that really stuck the landing is the Fisher Tiger flashback. Punk Hazard is lacking gravitas and drama, but it's still really fun. The arc after Punk Hazard has some of the series' highest highs and lowest lows, it is a hell of a roller coaster ride, just enjoy the ride and sometimes just turn off your brain After that there is a mini-arc which kicks off the neverending madness of things just infinitely getting better and crazier, which has led to One Piece becoming the worldwide phenomenon it is today, so yeah hold on tight because holy gently caress. You know those crazy highs from the arc before? "WHAT IF: The entire series was just like that basically all the time" Bisse fucked around with this message at 11:48 on Jul 16, 2023 |
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Jul 16, 2023 11:41
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Irony Be My Shield posted:The biggest issue with Fishman Island to me is that we spent all this time building up the villains (with actually pretty good backstory that tied into previously existing characters in the case of Hody Jones) only to have them clowned on absurdly to establish how strong the Straw Hats are post-timeskip. It made all the time introducing the villains seem like a waste because they never really got to establish themselves as threats. Punk Hazard has the same issue to some degree. Tbh the lion’s share of the FI antagonists feel like they were literally made to square up with the Straw Hats. I feel like the actual implementation of a mook squad wasn’t elegantly done and a drag because who cares about the lame mooks headed by someone who’s literally hollow by design, but the actual idea of having the Straw Hats brutally steamroll the Paradise side of the Grand Line is something you kinda want before the started squaring up with Emperor crews.
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Jul 16, 2023 12:17
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I’m a fan of Punk Hazard because it’s just fun. There’s a detestable antagonist, lots of fun guest characters and some interesting narrative ideas. Half-animal pirates, a dragon and some body swaps to start. Then we have Smoker, Law and the detestable Cesar. Franky gets a 2v1 fight, the Marines love Sanji and Nami helps out some kids. Could it have been better? Absolutely. Running from the gas went on too long. Plus what about the Yeti Cool Brothers one-shotting Zoro. Still, a fun romp.
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Jul 16, 2023 13:17
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The villain in FI wasn't Hody, it was what he represented (racism).
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Jul 16, 2023 14:23
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Hody being an upjumped punk who just blindly hates humans for no reason other than that's what he was told to do growing up and gets instantly clowned by Luffy is cool and good and the anime hosed that up in multiple ways.
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Jul 16, 2023 14:36
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One Piece owns and all the arcs are good
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Jul 16, 2023 14:38
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Fishman Island is just very slow. I guess this is an issue a lot of arcs face but I still really felt it with FI on a recent reread.
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Jul 16, 2023 14:41
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Kild posted:The villain in FI wasn't Hody, it was what he represented (racism). Fishman Island was a good arc  Nuebot posted:The entire arc feels kind of off for me especially with how they just straight up kill? Monet which as pointed out feels kind of "out of character" given how the series rarely actually kills off characters and it doesn't really feel like the strawhats achieved or did much overall even though they did, narratively. I think this is more a set up for the Dressora arc. The crew acts like a family, crushing that mook that laughed at Pica's voice etc. But lurking back in your mind is the fact that Doflamingo ordered Vergo and Monet to die and they did so happily. Vergo was even Doflamingo's right hand man too. Any of those weirdo would slit their throat on the spot with a smile if Doflamingo told them to.
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Jul 16, 2023 14:49
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Star Platinum posted:loving Maybe if he'd been rolled up into part of Hody's gang. Big maybe. However, as a 3rd Party entry into the conflict it's just messy, overly complicating, and inelegantly exposes contrivances to get our boys/girls to their marks for the script. hatty posted:One Piece owns and all the arcs are good While not all arcs in One Piece are good, no arcs are Bad. It's incredibly impressive that a multi-decade long serial story has managed to have it's lowest points land at "Some good stuff happened, but overall this part was just OK." Marluxia posted:But lurking back in your mind is the fact that Doflamingo ordered Vergo and Monet to die and they did so happily. Vergo was even Doflamingo's right hand man too. Any of those weirdo would slit their throat on the spot with a smile if Doflamingo told them to. Gyges fucked around with this message at 14:57 on Jul 16, 2023 |
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Jul 16, 2023 14:53
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Doflamingo is a horrible monster but I think his backstory does a great job of explaining why - he was screwed over by a combination of his father's kindness and naivete, small-minded prejudice from ordinary people and high-handed elitism from the Celestial Dragons. It makes some sense that he hates everyone after going through that. There is a certain charisma to him and I can imagine why other people who were screwed over by the world would be drawn to him, although his actual relationship with his crew wasn't explored that thoroughly.
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Jul 16, 2023 15:51
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god i love fishman island. the overarching story stuff with ancient weapons, joyboy, and poneglyphs. the magical sunlight tree, the crew stomping everyone in their path, energy steroids, big mom, the absolutely incredible fisher tiger flashback, sharly's premonition, and don't forget before they descend to fishman island is when we meet the fakehats. truly a beautiful arc in what was already the greatest manga ever written
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Jul 16, 2023 15:57
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Not to add another 100 chapters onto it or anything but I feel like there really should've been another Alabasta Saga-sized chunk of story in between Fishman Island and Punk Hazard, since the former was long established as their next destination since Water 7, and the latter starts off the whole Smile Fruit Saga. In just under 120 chapters the Alabasta Saga has the straw hats go to Reverse Mountain and 4 other islands, and some more "relaxed" adventuring would've been nice at that point in the story.
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Jul 16, 2023 15:57
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Trebol and the rest started following Doflamingo because they saw him Conqueror's Haki an entire lynch mob at age 10 and were immediately convinced that a kid with this level of ambition and charisma could easily rule the seas one day. Add in that the younger members of his upper echelon seem to have been raised in his crew and you get the idea that Doflamingo's crew is deeply loyal out of both his charisma and a familial bond. Of course on Doffy's side he only actually values anyone so long as their loyal and will throw any of his crew aside to advance his goals.
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Jul 16, 2023 15:58
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Doflamingo's backstory is more than fine. I'm just saying that we could have used a little more showing or telling why his crew was willing to die with a smile on his orders. All the pirates in the setting are overly loyal to their captains. It is kind of part of the story where, I think, only Blackbeard has ever been shown to betray their crew. There's more than a few captains who are total poo poo to their crew, without betrayal too. Like, how the hell did no one ever turn on Krieg? Pirates don't betray their captain, fine. However Doflamingo's crew just seemed even more loyal than usual. Like outside a handful of Captains(Luffy, Whitebeard, Roger, Shanks, and Doflamingo), I don't think we've seen anyone with crew who would die with a smile.
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