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Shaman Tank Spec posted:
Crossposting this from the Wrestlers on Social Media thread to ask: How are moves like this, or Prince Devitt/Finn Balor's stomp on someone from the top turnbuckle done without causing injury? It just feels like there's so much that could go wrong.
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With something like that I'd guess the only part she's hitting Chie with is her shins. With Finn's stomp...as I'd always heard that just sucks to get hit with and there's little avoiding it
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edogawa rando posted:Crossposting this from the Wrestlers on Social Media thread to ask: It looks like she's landing with most of the weight on the mat, so I guess it's a matter of shifting your weight properly as you fall, so the audience still sees the opponent getting stomped but you're not putting the impact there. Looks like it's hell on her knees though.
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Jul 18, 2023 08:59
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Wasn't it Macho Man who would eventually just legit gently caress you up with his elbow because he couldn't land on his bad hip anymore to cushion the fall?
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Jul 18, 2023 10:37
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It's the same with Jeff Hardy now, and he's admitted that it's because he's old and it hurts a lot to do it otherwise
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The Taxman posted:It's the same with Jeff Hardy now, and he's admitted that it's because he's old and it hurts a lot to do it otherwise Has he considered no longer doing it & also no longer wrestling in general? Asking for a friend.
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Jul 18, 2023 11:57
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Grendels Dad posted:Wasn't it Macho Man who would eventually just legit gently caress you up with his elbow because he couldn't land on his bad hip anymore to cushion the fall? Yeah. He about murdered referee "Lil' Naitch" Charles Robinson one night with it.
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Jul 18, 2023 12:43
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edogawa rando posted:Crossposting this from the Wrestlers on Social Media thread to ask: You land on your rear end on the mat mostly. Not finn or kevin sulivan though they just kill you.
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Jul 18, 2023 12:48
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on that note, I imagine that the cinderblock which Swerve stomped onto Keith Lee's chest both looked and actually was incredibly painful, unless it was some kind of gimmick cinderblock that cushioned a lot of the impact
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Jul 18, 2023 13:09
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Dawgstar posted:Yeah. He about murdered referee "Lil' Naitch" Charles Robinson one night with it. quote:"They were going to be the winners and Savage was going to do the elbow on somebody. And Ric Flair looked at me and said, 'It ain't gonna be me.' I was volunteered to take the elbow drop from Savage, and unfortunately, he landed on me and he put me in the hospital for a couple weeks. He collapsed my lung [and] cracked some vertebrae in my back, and my wrestling career was over."
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Venomous posted:on that note, I imagine that the cinderblock which Swerve stomped onto Keith Lee's chest both looked and actually was incredibly painful, unless it was some kind of gimmick cinderblock that cushioned a lot of the impact I was more concerned Swerve was going to hurt himself with all his weight coming down stomping on a precious, crumbling landing spot.
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Jul 18, 2023 13:23
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edogawa rando posted:Crossposting this from the Wrestlers on Social Media thread to ask: brace up
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Jul 18, 2023 15:42
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It’s like when your older sibling used to tell you to stop being a crybaby, except the older sibling in this case is a 200+ pound fully grown human being and they’re landing on you from 5-6 feet up in the air.
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Jul 18, 2023 15:55
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Suplex Liberace posted:You land on your rear end on the mat mostly. Not finn or kevin sulivan though they just kill you. Riho, too. Like yeah she's tiny but her double stomp looks loving nasty.
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History Comes Inside! posted:It’s like when your older sibling used to tell you to stop being a crybaby, except the older sibling in this case is a 200+ pound fully grown human being and they’re landing on you from 5-6 feet up in the air. I've heard a lot of modern moves have come about with people either loving about or botching into a move that doesnt kill someone, I have to wonder, who was the first to think "yo I could totally mario stomp someone without killing them" and then someone stupid enough to go "yea, I'll take it"
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Jul 18, 2023 17:30
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First one I remember doing that was Kevin Sullivan, though I'm sure he stole it from somewhere
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Jul 18, 2023 17:34
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I would like to see a Kevin Sullivan Murder Death Hell Stomp, since the only times I've seen it it was a cute li'l Satanic bunny hop.
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Finn does the stomp like a box jump which helps soften the landing, but it’s still a good amount of force coming off the top rope https://youtube.com/shorts/MW2CMoL9HbI?feature=share
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Halloween Jack posted:I would like to see a Kevin Sullivan Murder Death Hell Stomp, since the only times I've seen it it was a cute li'l Satanic bunny hop. its not crazy but sulivan is not doing much to lessen the impact and hes much heavier than Riho. https://youtu.be/rAV1BTUxs3c
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Jul 18, 2023 22:22
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It looks like poo poo and probably hurt crazy to take so the double whammy of bad moves
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Jul 18, 2023 22:23
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AFAIK, there's two safe-ish ways of doing the double stomp: 1. Bend your knees as you land and effectively slip backwards on your feet so most of the impact hits your butt rather than the opponent. 2. Bend your knees and roll forward as you land. If there's another way, I'd like to know more.
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Jul 18, 2023 23:03
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Suplex Liberace posted:It looks like poo poo and probably hurt crazy to take so the double whammy of bad moves
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Jul 18, 2023 23:35
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Things like top rope stomps and head dives should be way more banned than regular piledrivers.
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Suplex Liberace posted:It looks like poo poo and probably hurt crazy to take so the double whammy of bad moves I've always said the 2 axis of wrestling moves are 'looks good/looks like poo poo and 'hurts like a mfer/light as a feather' My gold standard of 'looks poo poo/hurts' is usually Shane McMahon's punches, but that stomp isn't far behind.
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Gavok posted:Mysterio didn't holler the loud, funny words. Probably could do flying butt pliers, though El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 02:47 on Jul 19, 2023 |
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Gaz-L posted:I've always said the 2 axis of wrestling moves are 'looks good/looks like poo poo and 'hurts like a mfer/light as a feather' Flatliners look like poo poo
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Gaz-L posted:I've always said the 2 axis of wrestling moves are 'looks good/looks like poo poo and 'hurts like a mfer/light as a feather' so Shane-o-mac was shoot punching people?
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Captain Foo posted:Flatliners look like poo poo
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Captain Foo posted:Flatliners look like poo poo counterpoint: flatliners are cool as poo poo.
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Gambit from the X-Men posted:counterpoint: flatliners are cool as poo poo. Darius Martin has a pretty good one, i will concede
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The Grey posted:so Shane-o-mac was shoot punching people? I think Shane has the opposite problem.
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He was punch shooting people.
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Gaz-L posted:I've always said the 2 axis of wrestling moves are 'looks good/looks like poo poo and 'hurts like a mfer/light as a feather' I think that's the standard Bret used to use to define good working as the "Looks good, Light as a feather" quadrant and why he thought Flair-style chops were bullshit pro-wrestling moves because they legit hurt.
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But then he'd run run into the turnbuckle and take the impact with his chest. I've always been surprised he never really hurt himself with that.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:But then he'd run run into the turnbuckle and take the impact with his chest. I've always been surprised he never really hurt himself with that. I wonder if there’s some weird magic where he hits the perpendicular ropes with his biceps or something so he’s not actually going chest first. Haven’t seen a Bret match in a while so I haven’t seen him specifically do that spot lately, though.
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Jul 19, 2023 17:43
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That's actually what I was thinking as I was typing that.
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There might also be a bit of hurting yourself is fine because you're just a dumbass, but don't hurt your partner because that makes you an rear end in a top hat.
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I hope somebody tagged Shane back once and dared him to cry to daddy about it. I hope it was Taker. Vince likes Taker better anyway.
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What are some examples of fighting game moves ported into wrestling? (It has to be explicitly called the move from the fighting game to count) Kenny used to do the Hadouken and SPD (on Yoshihiko), Speedball does the Tatsumaki Senpuu Kyaku, anyone else I'm missing? I'm surprised SHO doesn't have an EWGF-type move
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The Grey posted:so Shane-o-mac was shoot punching people? In his later years, very much so. He'd do these lovely boxing style punches that look like they barely connect but guys would bruise during the match.
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