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Young Freud posted:Oh gawd, it's happening. *has brand so recognizable that people use it as a verb to describe broadcasting shortish posts to any followers or people who view your profile on the order of Kleenex and tissue paper* Let's trash this folks!
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Fry your brain, now in a literal sense with the NEW neuralink social app!
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This is an X-twitter
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Mercury_Storm posted:Fry your brain, now in a literal sense with the NEW neuralink social app! It would be on brand for Elon musk to create something like sword art online.
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Nitrousoxide posted:*has brand so recognizable that people use it as a verb to describe broadcasting shortish posts to any followers or people who view your profile on the order of Kleenex and tissue paper* Everyone's going to keep calling it twitter and he's going to get spectacularly mad and into so many raging slapfights while claiming to not be mad at all.
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Jul 23, 2023 18:26
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Is there any legal or financial advantage to such a rebranding or is it pure vanity?
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Mzbundifund posted:Is there any legal or financial advantage to such a rebranding or is it pure vanity?
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Jul 23, 2023 18:43
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Should have changed it to “Y” so we can call it yeeting
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Mzbundifund posted:Is there any legal or financial advantage to such a rebranding or is it pure vanity? Similar to how Facebook became Meta. Google becoming Alphabet made more sense, because they have Youtube which should be on equal footing to Google, but it probably wasn't worth whatever they paid.
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haveblue posted:This is an X-twitter Nah, it's restin'
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StumblyWumbly posted:It's pure marketing, so everyone who thinks of Twitter as a dumpster fire will now think of X-Social, formerly known as Twitter, is a massive dumpster fire. this is assuming a lot more thought and a lot less drugs than actually went into this idea
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Jul 23, 2023 21:20
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For gently caress’s sake, there are animated movies with little blue birds sending messages called tweets as established narrative moments! Why the gently caress is he going after the seed corn of their public presence like this?
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Jul 23, 2023 21:42
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Because it wasn't his idea.
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Jul 23, 2023 21:44
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Imagine being that rich and that insecure.
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Discendo Vox posted:Imagine being that rich and that insecure. But nope, shitposting frenzy at 5am as you decide to take the one thing your $44 billion impulse purchase still has of any value and set it on fire.
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If I had billions of dollars I might have used some of them to get the best therapist ever to work on my insecurity, I dunno.
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https://twitter.com/Browtweaten/status/1683213576117403652?s=20 EDIT: https://twitter.com/NoahShachtman/status/1683226914956140544?s=20 Dick Trauma fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Jul 24, 2023 |
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StumblyWumbly posted:Google becoming Alphabet made more sense, because they have Youtube which should be on equal footing to Google, but it probably wasn't worth whatever they paid. I assume the main reason they did the Alphabet thing is that it made it easier to doge taxes if they had a third corporate entity above the other ones or something. Unlike Meta, Alphabet doesn't really seem to get mentioned that much outside contracts/more corporate literature stuff.
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Yeah, alphabet was less a rebranding so much as trying to organize a giant digital empire which wasn't just Google anymore. X is Musk trying to redeem one of his terrible ideas that got him drummed out of PayPal. The equivalent of going to your high school reunion and trying to flex in front of your old crush because you haven't moved on.
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dr_rat posted:I assume the main reason they did the Alphabet thing is that it made it easier to doge taxes if they had a third corporate entity above the other ones or something. It was a holding company for all the other successful things they were going to do with their google money that weren't google so should be siloed elsewhere, such as.... well they're sure they'll find one eventually.
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evilweasel posted:It was a holding company for all the other successful things they were going to do with their google money that weren't google so should be siloed elsewhere, such as.... well they're sure they'll find one eventually. Rust is great, but that's a programming language they make no money off of. They've had a few neat ideas that were just bad products. I've heard rumors that their plan is to spin off some of their neat patents into startups, let them try to succeed, and then buy them back if they do, which sounds like a decent plan actually, and makes sense with the Alphabet name. Facebook becoming Meta seems like a waste of money, but that's what the Metaverse does I guess.
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StumblyWumbly posted:Rust is great, but that's a programming language they make no money off of. You do mean Go, right?
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StumblyWumbly posted:Facebook becoming Meta seems like a waste of money, but that's what the Metaverse does I guess. Facebook becoming Meta was partly a branding exercise to try to escape being the same Facebook that rallied all your racist uncles to destroy democracy and commit genocide worldwide. If it had accomplished that and lost money it would have been considered a success Instead it lost a stupendous amount of money, permanently discredited the concept of "metaverse", and is still only appealing to racist uncles
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haveblue posted:Facebook becoming Meta was partly a branding exercise to try to escape being the same Facebook that rallied all your racist uncles to destroy democracy and commit genocide worldwide. If it had accomplished that and lost money it would have been considered a success
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Discendo Vox posted:Imagine being that rich and that insecure. Honestly, this isn't unique to Musk. Almost every failed-upwards CEO of every company isn't content to just sit on their giant piles of money, they need to make their mark on the company, which generally involves changing lots of little things for absolutely no reason. Usually for the worse, and at huge cost. There's just something about having unlimited power that makes you want to exercise that power, even if it doesn't benefit you at all. Narcissism, I suppose.
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evilweasel posted:It was a holding company for all the other successful things they were going to do with their google money that weren't google so should be siloed elsewhere, such as.... well they're sure they'll find one eventually. Eh, Alphabet also has things like Fitbit, Mandiant, Nest, and Boston Dynamics used to be a subsidiary. There's also X, which is Google/Alphabet's R&D arm. I'm sure there are others but those are the big ones. It allows for several things: - More focus within each company on their core business, rather than everyone wondering how it operates as a subsidiary of a search engine. - Siloing out each subsidiary's accounting makes it simpler for each business to maintain some level of independence, while Alphabet retains oversight. - There's an argument to be made that it makes future M&A simpler. Alphabet mostly stays out of the limelight, allowing them to tell future acquisitions that they'll be able to retain their identity and branding. There's more to it but those are the core arguments I see. Facebook rebranding as Meta is pure vanity on Zuck's part, Musk trying to rebrand everything as X is him holding onto the past and failing to realize that there is little to no overlap among his various businesses.
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The whole “X will do everything” app sounds a lot like those dystopia stories with the horrible companies that run everything and are still doing things like using their ubiquitous power to conduct human experiments behind the scenes Musk thinks this is all good stuff though
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So there's already an X as an existing Alphabet subsidiary... isn't that going to cause problems with turning Twitter into X?
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What was The Metaverse? Facebook is the same piece of garbage it’s been for ~8 years.
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I AM GRANDO posted:What was The Metaverse? Facebook is the same piece of garbage it’s been for ~8 years. The Metaverse was Zuckerberg getting hyped about combining Second Life with VR.
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Shooting Blanks posted:The Metaverse was Zuckerberg getting hyped about combining Second Life with VR.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:So there's already an X as an existing Alphabet subsidiary... isn't that going to cause problems with turning Twitter into X? This is a question that only Google/Twitter's lawyers can answer, and I'd bet money that we'll never get an answer out of them.
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Also Second Life was never really all that popular because it ran like poo poo and is actually pretty technical, so why Zuckerborg thought a version that required a VR headset and had no loving legs would be a good idea is beyond me. You know what also didn't have legs? Threads. 
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Absurd Alhazred posted:So there's already an X as an existing Alphabet subsidiary... isn't that going to cause problems with turning Twitter into X? Possible? the Google X subsidiary used to be Moonshot X, and is not just X https://x.company/ As it's generic research and the X musk wants to make twitter into is generic social media, a judge could decide there's not really a chance for brand confusion, or goggle may just ignore it I guess? Musk's clearly ignoring all advice he's getting so who knows if he's actually aware of the Google X thing.
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If I had to guess, I'd say that Google just won't care - Google X isn't really designed as a profit making company. They won't see Twitter/X as competition. Musk might sue because his fragile ego was harmed that there's another company called X, it was his baby 24 years ago.
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I AM GRANDO posted:What was The Metaverse? One of the big problems with it was that no one knew or was able to define it. There were a couple of competing philosophies but all of them were talking past each other on some level and none of them had a complete picture or found a reason for it to be compelling to anyone who wasn't them The definition the good idealists and evangelists were using was a web-equivalent for interactive 3D content, a set of open standards that would allow clients to navigate a distributed collection of 3D worlds across multiple hosts. This ran into the immediate problem that for most tasks people do online doing it in 3D is manifestly worse than doing it with a web browser. Also creating 3D content is hard and making it look good is expensive, so this idea hasn't really gone anywhere The definition Facebook was using was the Horizon Worlds platform, which discarded the "open" part in favor of something entirely controlled by Facebook, where they would invite partners to create spaces there (for a cut) and invite users to visit those spaces and spend money (for a cut). They also, inexplicably, pushed it as a way to turn remote work back into office work, by replacing your commute with putting on a VR headset for eight hours, and replacing your slack channels and zooms with hordes of floating cartoon torsos. No one wants to use a virtual mall/office where Facebook is written into the very fabric of reality even if it didn't look like a pile of poo poo, so they took an enormous bath on it The definition the bad idealists and evangelists were using was effectively the old crypto pitch repeated, where a new world would be built on zero-authority distributed systems and it would be a wild west of libertarians and nongovernmental money-equivalents and everyone would be free to pay and earn and rent and do all the stuff they could on the blockchain, but in 3D. This went about as well as the old crypto pitch did the first time Mercury_Storm posted:Also Second Life was never really all that popular because it ran like poo poo and is actually pretty technical Second Life had (has, probably) a core of dedicated users because they allow it to be used for weird sex stuff. Facebook was never going to do this even if their avatars looked human enough to plausibly gently caress each other haveblue fucked around with this message at 05:19 on Jul 24, 2023 |
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I AM GRANDO posted:What was The Metaverse? Facebook is the same piece of garbage it’s been for ~8 years. Dan Olson explains it very well in the first ten or fifteen minutes of this video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiZhdpLXZ8Q Basically it's people trying to invent the 3D immersive virtual reality internet as portrayed in Ready Player One or Snowcrash or The Matrix. It's a bad, worthless idea usually done extremely poorly. Vincent Van Goatse fucked around with this message at 05:14 on Jul 24, 2023 |
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I AM GRANDO posted:What was The Metaverse? Facebook is the same piece of garbage it’s been for ~8 years. This video lays it out. e:f;b Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Jul 24, 2023 |
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Half of the reason people (read: cryptobros) other than Zuck were excited was because they all thought they were going to be the next Yuga Labs. NFTs that you can wear! And show off to millions of people! And sell, for profit, of which they'll take a small cut!
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I AM GRANDO posted:What was The Metaverse? Facebook is the same piece of garbage it’s been for ~8 years. An immensely successful branding exercise on Facebook's part. For all the criticism to point at them, they did a fantastic job on that. Prior to Facebook's rebranding, "metaverse" was a little-used term from an old sci-fi novel which basically meant "virtual world". It was occasionally used to refer to basically any online social space that wasn't text-only and wasn't primarily a gaming platform, but it was basically an obscure term used mostly by technologists. When Zuck rebranded Facebook to Meta, he claimed and popularized the term "metaverse" in reference to Meta's various VR projects, and especially their virtual social space, Horizon Worlds (a lovely knockoff of VRChat, AltspaceVR, and like five other "stand around and socialize in VR" apps). He said that the metaverse was going to be the next internet, and that In the end, it turned out that Horizon Worlds loving sucked. Making it synonymous with "metaverse" meant that they dragged the whole craze down with them when it turned out to be a huge failure. VR was not the Next Big Thing, and the money moved on to the next big craze (LLMs).
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