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The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

Lioness last seen entering Berghain.

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Upsidads
Jan 11, 2007
Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates


The lion just called me on the phone
Said that footage is old

Upsidads
Jan 11, 2007
Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates


Lion called back saying it was slandered
https://www.npr.org/2023/07/21/1189234504/berlin-germany-lion-search-wild-boar

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



Watching the video again, I could see it being a boar too. It's funny how much what you can see of the head could fit with either one, and of course the part that would make it obvious (the snout, or lack thereof) is conveniently juuust out of sight.

Snooze Cruise
Feb 16, 2013

hey look,
a post
I wouldn't be lion if I said alien big cats are a boar

1
Feb 28, 2007

1️⃣
Just another number.

endocriminologist posted:

It's because gef owns

And without Gef, we wouldn't have one of Neil Cicierega's greatest songs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyzQ-ZFSQic

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

Here's to the new us.

Amphigory posted:

Don't take the Berlin Lioness away from me!

Boooo!

Facts have never gotten in the way of a good cryptid story. The cops are clearly covering up the truth of the Berlin Lioness, presumably in collaboration with the tyrants of the Hollow Earth.

endocriminologist
May 17, 2021

SUFFERINGLOVER:press send + soul + earth lol
inncntsoul:ok

(inncntsoul has left the game)

ARCHON_MASTER:lol
MAMMON69:lol
It's the return of the löwenmenschen...

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right
Here's an article on "playing the ghost", a somewhat popular supernatural-themed prank back between the 1870s and World War I. This article concentrates on the Ballarat region of Australia where there was a big gold rush in the late 19th century and their population exploded and there were a whole lot of old newspaper articles about their problems with ghost pranksters, but also touches on similar pranks from other regions.
https://prov.vic.gov.au/explore-collection/provenance-journal/provenance-2014/playing-ghost
Related journal article: https://www.jstor.org/stable/24774364



If podcasts are more your speed here's a few on the same topic:
https://talesfromratcity.com/2017/09/23/episode-three-2/
https://talesfromratcity.com/2017/04/27/affairs-of-the-spirit/

cptn_dr
Sep 7, 2011

Seven for beauty that blossoms and dies


1 posted:

And without Gef, we wouldn't have one of Neil Cicierega's greatest songs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyzQ-ZFSQic

Wonder how much it would cost to get Neil Gaiman to cover this

Queer Grenadier
Jun 14, 2023

THIS GUY HAS A POOPY BOOM BOOM

HE NOT WARSHING HE HOLES LOL
The Last Podcast on the Left podcast is starting a series on Mothman.

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008


By Fortean synchronicity, I actually just listened to this episode last night!

They briefly mentioned a case in the 1880s where spiritualists claimed to have contacted Abraham Lincoln, who told them that the real reason he was assassinated was because he was planning on revealing the truth of spiritualism to the world. I love that at least some 19th century spiritualists were jumping on the conspiracy theory bandwagon.

Also they talk about the case of a medium who claimed to have contacted Napoleon, who told them that after dying he had gone on to conquer the entire spirit realm, which is impressive.

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1684241279599751170

I'm surprised I hadn't seen anything about the House UFO panel hearing this morning until it was halfway through. I tuned in for part of it, there was a ton of wild stuff like that, just all sorts of claims of verifiable work with materials and technology outside human capabilities, the existence of bodily remains, and a whole lot of dialogue working from the base assumption that the encounters are factually correct.

It was bonkers. I'm gonna go back and watch the whole thing because what I saw felt like watching a movie where you know that the existence of aliens/non-human entities is the accepted premise, not something a real world governmental committee is getting excited about for national security concerns.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Chairman Capone posted:

Also they talk about the case of a medium who claimed to have contacted Napoleon, who told them that after dying he had gone on to conquer the entire spirit realm, which is impressive.

Now see, that's a pitch.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Captain Hygiene posted:

https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1684241279599751170

I'm surprised I hadn't seen anything about the House UFO panel hearing this morning until it was halfway through. I tuned in for part of it, there was a ton of wild stuff like that, just all sorts of claims of verifiable work with materials and technology outside human capabilities, the existence of bodily remains, and a whole lot of dialogue working from the base assumption that the encounters are factually correct.

It was bonkers. I'm gonna go back and watch the whole thing because what I saw felt like watching a movie where you know that the existence of aliens/non-human entities is the accepted premise, not something a real world governmental committee is getting excited about for national security concerns.

"Non-human remains" could mean they found a squashed rodent and couldn't make a positive ID.

Upsidads
Jan 11, 2007
Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates


Or a earth grown moleman or yeti unrelated but an unfortunate victim of the crash

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001
I'm really, really hoping this doesn't turn out to actually just be out to be a big bigoted misunderstanding thing and it turns out the documents they've been look at were all DOD documents from the 50's when they classified all non-white christian american male people as "non-human".

I've been told the 1950's were not great times. :(

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right
Here's an interesting detail from a 1937 newspaper article about Shipton's discovery of "yeti footprints" during his Everest expedition: the footprints varied in size quite considerably

Eric Shipton posted:

"The footprints appeared at 13,000 feet. They seemed to be too far apart to be made by a man. Nor were they all similar. Some were so large that I could fit my own print into one quarter of them. Others were man-sized; still others the size of snowshoes. We followed the tracks, which led into rocky slopes, and we lost them.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/266007850

That article mentions a 1930 expedition of Kanchenjunga, another Himalayan mountain, where one of the porters described the Snow Men:

quote:

Mountain superstitions are much the same the world over; it is therefore curious to find such a unique superstition as the Abominable Snow Men so firmly implanted in the native mind. One of our sheep-porters, who speaks excellent English, swore that he had seen them and described them as being white skinned and naked, but covered with thick hair. Whence did this belief originate? was there once a wild tribe that roamed the Himalaya—a tribe, perhaps, of white nomads from Southern Siberia, half ape and half man, to give to this superstition a foundation of fact? During the last Everest expedition wild rumors were afloat that the expedition actually encountered these beings? In point of fact no European has ever set eyes on a Snow Man.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/30485442
.... and that's it, an unnamed reporter who was allegedly traveling with the expedition says that a guy told him the story and swore it was true.

Weird trivia about Kanchenjunga: occultist Aleister Crowley led an expedition up the mountain in 1905 to try and set a new altitude record but he was such a gigantic rear end in a top hat to everyone that the expedition fell apart halfway through and the other dudes just decided to leave and one of them (and several porters) died while attempting to descend: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1905_Kanchenjunga_expedition



Vincent Van Goatse posted:

"Non-human remains" could mean they found a squashed rodent and couldn't make a positive ID.

Maybe it was one of those Soviet trained chimps they used as test pilots. :(

Chairman Capone
Dec 17, 2008

I thought we all knew the Roswell aliens were actually the genetically engineered results of Mengele’s experiments after Stalin hired him.

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



Vincent Van Goatse posted:

"Non-human remains" could mean they found a squashed rodent and couldn't make a positive ID.

And a lab tech dropping a chunk of airframe metal onto their toe would neatly fulfill the mysterious claim of injuries sustained during analysis :v:

Vincent
Nov 25, 2005



It could also be that this dude is a looney and, while he does believe in what he says (so it's not like he committed perjury for the hell of it), it's just nonsense.

Vincent has a new favorite as of 17:35 on Jul 31, 2023

Wee
Dec 16, 2022

by Fluffdaddy
It could be stuff they have been legitimately told, maybe the person who said it was lying or being deceptive, but they can state under oath "I was told by..." and therefore force the person who said it to make a move - legitimize the claim, come clean, whatever.

It doesn't necessarily mean the person who was told it believes it, just that it was told to them to the best of their understanding as a fact.

Upsidads
Jan 11, 2007
Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GsyM6-5-QM
Tom Ben-a-dryl found a sprite!

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



I was not expecting definitive proof of the fae folk to be presented at a random untimestamped point in a youtube video, but it seems I must eat my words

Upsidads
Jan 11, 2007
Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates


https://youtu.be/yZI6tBFGjTk
it gets boggy creek good

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right
An old buddy of mine just presented a seminar on Pat Hanley's Guns, a weird Fortean phenomena from regional Australia at the very start of the 20th century where very loud sonic booms like explosions or artillery fire could be heard in certain parts of the country. There were lots and lots of theories about what caused the sounds but no one ever proved exactly what was going on.



Old newspaper articles from that era:
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/221572773
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/10896217
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/216632374
https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/216635304

Patrick Hanley was a notoriously aggressive rear end in a top hat and my completely unsupported kneejerk theory is that he was setting off explosives for some reason and just didn't give a gently caress that it was causing everyone around him to panic and freak out because they thought "the Japs" were bombing them

Wee
Dec 16, 2022

by Fluffdaddy

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
There's a theory that the one Japanese doomsday cult tested a nuclear bomb far out in the Australian outback and barely anyone noticed.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right
A reminder that the annual Mothman Festival is happening next month if anyone will be in the West Virginia area: https://www.mothmanfestival.com/

ShortyMR.CAT
Sep 25, 2008

:blastu::dogcited:
Lipstick Apathy
Anybody got some movie recs? Can be serious "documentary" stuff or just a movie with a cryptid in it. Looking for weird stuff. Entertaining is the only stipulation I have.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

ShortyMR.CAT posted:

Anybody got some movie recs? Can be serious "documentary" stuff or just a movie with a cryptid in it. Looking for weird stuff. Entertaining is the only stipulation I have.

Incident at Loch Ness is the gold standard here.

Upsidads
Jan 11, 2007
Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates


The relic- as I love the field museum in Chicago

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right
Here's a poo poo-tastic 1972 TV movie where people stumble over a nest of re-awakened gargoyles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5J4DlXjWxg
It was Stan Winston's first movie effects credit, he won an Emmy for this poo poo lol

For a more standard cryptid film you can't go past The Legend Of Boggy Creek (1972) and the sequel Boggy Creek II: And the Legend Continues (1985)

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



I've never gotten around to watching the first Boggy Creek movie, I've wondered how it would fare nowadays. The second one was forever tainted by finding it via MST3K, which is the only thing I can think of now when I see the title.

Upsidads
Jan 11, 2007
Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates


You know what you are in for

Phy
Jun 27, 2008



Fun Shoe

The_Doctor posted:

Incident at Loch Ness is the gold standard here.

Werner Herzog is a little eccentric but I think it's going too far to call him a "cryptid"

(saw it a couple months ago and I do recommend)

Upsidads
Jan 11, 2007
Now and then we had a hope that if we lived and were good, God would permit us to be pirates


Isn't Vernon Florida just wall to wall talking Cryptids?

Wee
Dec 16, 2022

by Fluffdaddy
Les documents interdits aka The Forbidden Files
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0258528/

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right
There's a big monster-hunting event happening at Loch Ness next week

quote:

[N]ext weekend hundreds of Nessie enthusiasts are expected to take part in the biggest organised hunt for the mysterious creature in 50 years.

Organised by the newly revamped Loch Ness Centre, volunteers from across the globe will participate in person and online in what is believed to be the largest surface watch, searching for breaks in the water and any inexplicable movements over a two-day period.

In partnership with the voluntary research team Loch Ness Exploration, the hunt will enlist surveying equipment that has never been used on Loch Ness before, including drones to produce thermal images of the water from the air using infrared cameras, as well as a hydrophone to detect acoustic signals beneath the surface.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/aug/21/loch-ness-monster-enthusiasts-gear-up-for-biggest-search-in-50-years

It's being organised by the local hotel owner and tourism businesses, lol

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dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001
Lol everybody knows Nessie -or Lochie to it's friends- goes holidaying in Spain this time of year.

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