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Rosario dawson gets paid, disney gets screwed and star wars stops getting made? don't twist my arm or anything
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The captain america comics where Steve Rogers gets booted and they replaced him with dollar store cap were really good. Replacement cap was kinda chuddy but had a black best friend. And then his parents get killed semi accidentally by a right wing group and he goes nuts and brutally murders them all, bad optics for captain america! I could not believe how badly the falcon and winter soldier show hosed up that storyline.
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Aug 5, 2023 00:49
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brutally murdering a right wing group sounds good to me
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Aug 5, 2023 00:51
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Father Wendigo posted:Rumor mill: Disney may be trying to go for a mulligan the sequel trilogy There have been rumors for a long time that they were going to use Ashoka to reboot the franchise. So who knows? But Disney doesn’t really have any other way out at this point. SW is in a tailspin, and they can’t get another movie off the ground because the ST setup absolutely nothing, and they can’t figure out any plot or setting that would actually get people into a theater to see it. No one wants to watch a Rey and broom-boy team up. Though a rebooted ST would probably be as bad as the original just in new ways. They’d drag back Hamil and maybe even Ford as a jumping off point and just wind up remaking ANH again.
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Aug 5, 2023 00:52
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i don't understand, at the end of the last movie rey embraced her skywalker heritage (?) which surely must be the beginning of something amazing
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Aug 5, 2023 00:54
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This is really half baked but I think it’s because SW can’t have its cake and eat it too. Off the top of my head, successful 6+ movie franchises are - based on established book series (Harry Potter), serialized adventures (MI, basically the MCU), total schlock (Fast and Furious), or complete poo poo (Alien) Star Wars wants to be this high-brow, meaningful storytelling with intriguing characters and worlds and powerful real-world messages but doesn’t want to put any of the legwork in to actually think how that would progress over multiple movies. Each entry mostly just circles one of the above categories and sometimes doesn’t suck but its usually an Ill-fitting mess. Someone has to actually think about what ground they want to cover and how they do that and then figure out how that feeds the marketing beast of books, toys, clothes, video games, etc. Here’s a hint - it’s impossible and so it will always be a shambling mess propelled purely by inertia and occasionally boosted by a good project every now and then
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Aug 5, 2023 01:12
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colonelwest posted:I never knew Agatha Christy was part of the MCU and a witch? He was obviously going to end up being U.S.Agent.
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Aug 5, 2023 01:17
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Quantum of Phallus posted:brutally murdering a right wing group sounds good to me Disney being too chickenshit again smh
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Aug 5, 2023 01:19
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star wars should stop trying to be high brow
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Aug 5, 2023 01:22
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"I know thee not, old man. fall to thy prayers. how ill white hair becomes a fool and jester... I long have dreamt, but being awake, I do despise my dream. presume not that I am the thing I was. for God doth know, and so shall the world perceive, that I have turned away my former self." - me when there's a new star wars
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Aug 5, 2023 01:25
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Crazyweasel posted:Star Wars wants to be this high-brow, meaningful storytelling with intriguing characters and worlds and powerful real-world messages but doesn’t want to put any of the legwork in to actually think how that would progress over multiple movies. Each entry mostly just circles one of the above categories and sometimes doesn’t suck but its usually an Ill-fitting mess. This is true, but I think the biggest problem will always be right there in the name: Wars. If anybody makes a movie or tv show without some sort of large scale war going on in the backdrop, you get a ton of nerds saying it doesn't feel like star wars. Add in that the series also can't run away from people with force powers being the center of everything, and you have a series that can never change itself enough to move on. At least with star trek they can throw in a war here and there but overall focus on a wide variety of stuff.
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Aug 5, 2023 01:40
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Alan Smithee posted:what about bollywood tho The biggest stars are a small group of men between the ages of 40 and 60. Their co-stars are a constantly rotating cast of 18-25 year old women (one in a dozen will get some staying power and, at 30, play the mother of her former co-star's love interest). What's your gut feeling?
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Aug 5, 2023 01:42
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Original trilogy star wars grew as a form of secular religion or shared myth or whatever you want to call it and trying to parley that into the commercial needs of A Modern Brand was inevitably going to cause epistemic collapse. Well that's the only post I've got and I will either make it another 1000 times in 1000 different forms, or vanish into mexico
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Aug 5, 2023 01:44
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Pham Nuwen posted:The biggest stars are a small group of men between the ages of 40 and 60. Their co-stars are a constantly rotating cast of 18-25 year old women (one in a dozen will get some staying power and, at 30, play the mother of her former co-star's love interest). What's your gut feeling? I can only name two indian actress and both of them were miss india winners
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Aug 5, 2023 01:47
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I wonder if there are still any dudes out there earnestly identifying their religion as Jedi
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Aug 5, 2023 01:49
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I was recommended nimona on netflix - it's bad - started life as a blue sky studios production (of ice age fame) and it shows - the main character is gay. he kisses his lover and they say I love you to each other. annapurna and netflix picked it up after disney obviously dropped it - the deuteragonist is a thousand year old redheaded - seriously it's bad. the dialogue is "xD rawr glomp random" and "say thing, yell same thing, yell same thing louder = funny." it's like rwby but less interesting at every level
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Aug 5, 2023 01:54
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It looks medieval but they have cyber swords and he has a robot arm.
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Aug 5, 2023 01:56
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kalel posted:- the main character is gay. he kisses his lover and they say I love you to each other. 
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Aug 5, 2023 01:56
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The comic that the Netflix film is based on is really good. The actual story and point of the book is wildly different than the movie almost to the point where I can't figure out how the movie got made.
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Aug 5, 2023 01:58
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Honestly I'm not sure if it was the best idea george had or the worst to let star wars sit for 15 years after the OT. On the one hand doing it that way let it rarefy into myth. On the other hand if they had kept making them the transition into trash would have probably been much less traumatic for everyone
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Aug 5, 2023 02:03
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kalel posted:netflix
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Aug 5, 2023 02:03
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I had only heard of that Nimona movie from Kermode, who liked it a lot. I still haven’t bothered watching it and my kids were not interested.
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Aug 5, 2023 02:12
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Assepoester posted:Starting to think that a Sound of Freedom movie should be made about the people who made Sound of Freedom. Actually the tweet, got some context to it now saying that he only funded the movie a little bit out of 6,600 funders, so yeah at least you tried on that front. (USER WAS PERMABANNED FOR THIS POST)
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Aug 5, 2023 02:28
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BronsonBone posted:Actually the tweet, got some context to it now saying that he only funded the movie a little bit out of 6,600 funders, so yeah at least you tried on that front. Father Wendigo posted:Rumor mill: Disney may be trying to go for a mulligan the sequel trilogy Assepoester fucked around with this message at 02:42 on Aug 5, 2023 |
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Aug 5, 2023 02:29
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blows my mind how there’s a deranged transphobe who spends literally hundreds of dollars specifically to post twitter embeds in this thread . just send me the money instead
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Aug 5, 2023 02:33
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BronsonBone posted:Actually the tweet, got some context to it now saying that he only funded the movie a little bit out of 6,600 funders, so yeah at least you tried on that front. Fart
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Aug 5, 2023 02:36
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given their obvious deep pockets and deep hate, absolute 100% chance that Dr*ft*ngm**s* is an exec on the sound of freedom
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Aug 5, 2023 02:39
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Assepoester posted:Hey he's still one of 6,600 people who funded the movie out of 8 billion people who did not, it's a pretty exclusive club all things considered There was time travel in the Star Wars cartoon?
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Aug 5, 2023 02:42
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two pedophiles is a lot
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Aug 5, 2023 02:53
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I don't think I've ever met that many in my life
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Aug 5, 2023 02:53
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priznat posted:I had only heard of that Nimona movie from Kermode, who liked it a lot. christ, really? I guess if you don't watch too much animation you might be too distracted by the not-cal-arts art style to realize how bad it is
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Aug 5, 2023 03:06
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Gripweed posted:There was time travel in the Star Wars cartoon? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIF0DeBjOsQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZR0X4Sk3Mw
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Aug 5, 2023 03:06
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kalel posted:christ, really? I guess if you don't watch too much animation you might be too distracted by the not-cal-arts art style to realize how bad it is Yeah he really liked the characters and voice work, especially Riz Ahmed.
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Aug 5, 2023 03:17
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OK I'm not watching those videos but lol. The driving creative force behind the entire Star Wars franchise is the guy who did the Clone Wars cartoons. It's like if when Disney bought Star Wars and set out to make the Sequel Trilogy they had just been like, "OK, Kevin J Anderson, it's all yours. Go for it"
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Aug 5, 2023 03:18
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Gripweed posted:OK I'm not watching those videos but lol. Filoni’s heart is probably in the right place, but he’s often too lost in the weeds of very specific lore to be able to tell a good overarching story. But then there’s the whole Disney made by committee system that seems to suck every last bit of creativity out of every single project plus Kathy Kennedy and Bob Iger throwing their weight around, so who knows who is really to blame?
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Aug 5, 2023 03:24
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Star Wars was doomed the moment they added "Episode IV" onto the first movie. From that point on, they were eventually going to have to make a prequel trilogy and there clearly wasn't enough material for it. And now it's pointless trilogies all the way down.
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Aug 5, 2023 03:27
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Reminder that the future plans for star wars are to set new movies and tv shows across five different points in a timeline spanning a thousand years.
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Aug 5, 2023 03:30
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Can it possibly get any worse? Give cartoon guy a shot at this point. Who cares?
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Aug 5, 2023 03:31
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priznat posted:Yeah he really liked the characters and voice work, especially Riz Ahmed. I thought moretz was more the stand out tbh, she has some surprising vo chops. I barely registered ahmed at all
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Gripweed posted:OK I'm not watching those videos but lol. If KJA got the sequel trilogy we'd have gotten gelatinous blob races instead of the stupid space horse races in Last Jedi.
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