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Jaded Burnout posted:I stayed at my school into 6th form for my A-levels and it was like this for sure, but a friend of mine left and went to a dedicated technical college to do a BTEC for those years instead, and it was much more like a community college than just more school. The general ambience of a college is a lot different than it is for sixth form as well. Colleges obviously do not have a bunch of secondary school age people walking around. Also back in my day colleges were not affected by section 28 so that was different too. You might also go further afar and accommodation isn’t really a thing either
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I continued to my school's sixth form rather than leave to college like all the cool kids because my parents held their legally obliged upbringing of my child self over me at every opportunity depriving me of the free will to make decisions until they were shot of me at which point they became incredibly angry at my poor life choices. And here we are. So I'm stapling more air paper in my ceilings  Using the green germany tape in the ceilings but unsure on walls now as the plasterer I have agreed to go with has said it is weird and unplasterable. Great.   starting to look pretty good though  Its becoming apparent that my ceilings were not finished and quite a lot of extra timber was still needed up there to secure not just the paper to but the plasterboard. Or drywall I guess? dryceiling? I refuse to accept this and buy a couple of pieces at a time. I have now been to wickes every day for 6 days to buy extra  Classic this is the last bedroom and maybe now i have finally measured up right and put in what I need such that I dont have to go up above and awkwardly install more timber structure from above as an afterthought.  Gotta deal with these expansion joints in the walls. I don't think there are actually enough but whatever  I pump my gunk in  Hopefully to someone's satisfaction Fell off the milk crate  gave up for a bit and watched the lady football  one of three piles of plasterboard gone  Last bedroom done  Possibly on target? Airtighting the hallway   Don't think the board hoist is going to work in this tight space. Airtight ceiling boxes for bedroom big lights are easy from the loft   Next I maybe want to get on with the plasterboarding loft ceiling as dunno what the access is going to be up there soon. So need to do things like finish off the air humidity/quality whatever sensors.   Soldering up the sensors to run back to sensor suite locations  Hmmm. dunno toilet has stopped leaking but will have to be removed now to let plasterers come in. NotJustANumber99 fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Aug 17, 2023 |
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Aug 17, 2023 22:38
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The ceilings are doing a good job of concealing the thousands of miles of ducting and wire in the attic space and making it look more like a normal place someone would live in, so that's great.
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Hobbies, Crafts, & Houses > Towards an L shape architecture: I pump my gunk in
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Maybe I'm missing something but when you say the plasterer says that the tape is weird and unplasterable, is the barrier some kind of material that is somehow plasterable, and the one issue is just the green tape at the seams?
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Aug 18, 2023 01:16
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Green tape is a good metaphor for things that arbitrarily get in the way of progress.
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Aug 18, 2023 02:10
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Can you not just tape over the tape with plasterer approved tape?
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Aug 18, 2023 04:01
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Learn to plaster. DIY it. You can't trust contractors
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Vim Fuego posted:Learn to plaster. DIY it. You can't trust contractors I'm already feeling uneasy about it. Horatius Bonar posted:Maybe I'm missing something but when you say the plasterer says that the tape is weird and unplasterable, is the barrier some kind of material that is somehow plasterable, and the one issue is just the green tape at the seams? I'll speak to him again. But the tape is glossy and shiny, I can understand how stuff won't adhere to it. The membrane itself I assume is fine because its sort of textured and slightly fluffy. The other tape I bought from the same passive house crowd was explicitly plasterable. This is for sealing off airtight in the window apertures. It has a very fluffy not at all glossy finish. Maybe I can use this tape instead around the wall/ceiling joints and tape over the glossy tape rooms I've already done as tangy yet delightful posted:Can you not just tape over the tape with plasterer approved tape? you suggest. Except actually the plasterer is refusing to plaster those window apertures either as he says the floppy cavity closures are no good so that is going to be dot and dabbed with a bit of board on top of the airtight, plasterable tape. Meaning this tape will not be plastered and I could have used the green glossy tape here. aniviron posted:Green tape is a good metaphor for things that arbitrarily get in the way of progress. Lol. Basically the whole passive house airtight solution I bought is completely at odds with what the plasterers want to be paid thousands to do. I already feel like he was ignoring everything I was saying and planning in his head how he was going to do it differently.
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Aug 18, 2023 08:52
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plasterboard is so heavy that i've never really understood how some of the attachment solutions are good enough to hold it in place, dot and dab sort of but especially when you use those tiny black screws. and then you can attach moderately heavy objects to it with no issue!
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Aug 18, 2023 09:16
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Our house needed a lot of work doing when we moved in and I had a real existential moment when I had to fix a floorboard upstairs while there was a hole in the plaster of the ceiling underneath, meaning I could see all the way through to the hallway floor. Houses are basically fake! They're mostly empty air!
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Party Boat posted:Our house needed a lot of work doing when we moved in and I had a real existential moment when I had to fix a floorboard upstairs while there was a hole in the plaster of the ceiling underneath, meaning I could see all the way through to the hallway floor. You put your foot through the ceiling didn't you
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Aug 18, 2023 11:02
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My house is 1930s shuttered concrete which seems pretty not fake. American houses made out of lollipop sticks though? Reckon I could take a running dropkick at an exterior wall and end up in someone's living room
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Aug 18, 2023 11:13
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CancerCakes posted:You put your foot through the ceiling didn't you No it was an old house that had pipes etc running up the walls so left holes when we modernised. I did get to sledgehammer / crowbar / kick apart the old cupboard that the back boiler had been in which was very satisfying.
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Aug 18, 2023 11:20
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Party Boat posted:Houses are basically fake! They're mostly empty air! They have played us for absolute fools.
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Aug 18, 2023 11:35
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Party Boat posted:Our house needed a lot of work doing when we moved in and I had a real existential moment when I had to fix a floorboard upstairs while there was a hole in the plaster of the ceiling underneath, meaning I could see all the way through to the hallway floor. This is triggering me about living in a 1930s flat in south London, absolutely zero noise insulation from the one upstairs. They removed the carpet and clomped around in high heels shouting at their dog. Amusingly the guy was extremely white and the woman was not, and he seemed to prefer to dress in vaguely colonial clothes when they rarely ventured into the garden. Not quite a pith helmet but not far off.
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Aug 18, 2023 11:42
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Party Boat posted:Our house needed a lot of work doing when we moved in and I had a real existential moment when I had to fix a floorboard upstairs while there was a hole in the plaster of the ceiling underneath, meaning I could see all the way through to the hallway floor. That's why you have to have good airtightness. If you don't, most of the house will leak out through the walls.
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Aug 18, 2023 14:57
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How do you protect against quantum tunneling?
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Aug 18, 2023 15:56
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Extremely high intensity magnetic fields.
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goatface posted:Extremely high intensity magnetic fields. Finally an explanation for the miles of wire.
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vanity slug posted:How do you protect against quantum tunneling? It's usually not a big consideration if you build a house more than 1Å in length
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What are those plastic light boxes attached to? From the pictures it looks like they're just taped to the paper, but that can't be right, right?
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Darkest Auer posted:What are those plastic light boxes attached to? From the pictures it looks like they're just taped to the paper, but that can't be right, right? I'm not confirming or denying anything. But why couldn't that be right?
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NotJustANumber99 posted:I'm not confirming or denying anything. But why couldn't that be right? I'm just concerned that the structural integrity of paper is even less than that of foam blocks
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NotJustANumber99 posted:he was ignoring everything I was saying and planning in his head how he was going to do it differently. Contractors are like 3 year olds, do not tell them what to do or what not to do. Redirect their attention and set up the scene, so that they naturally head in the direction you want -Sun Tzu
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Darkest Auer posted:I'm just concerned that the structural integrity of paper is even less than that of foam blocks Yeah It's not like totally just paper. To be honest I'm pretty sure its the exact same membrane I ham covered my soakaway in? Like I worked as a kid packing sweets or candy for big shops and I'm pretty sure all the housebuilding stuff is the same. They buy their crap from the same distributor and either print passive house trees, or aldi ham on it and we all just accept it while the elites swan off on their yachts.  Like its pretty robust, taks a bit to stick a knife through it. Much the same as it took a bit to perforate it when I dropped a bunch of concrete spoil on it   feels like I'm repeatedly bent over and hosed by charlatans
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So I realise I've created the perfect off book post apocalypse rendition torture chamber. I mean the aesthetics too  even better in the other bathroom with no window. Got the led profile to powerfully feign any light I care to coupled with gassing ability whilst we survive all nuclear assaults on my formidable piles. anyway remembered my little laser for lining up screwing in plasterboard   then up in the loft to install a bit of dogshit fluffy candyfloss   OK so I've got a bunch of other wires and stuff to run in the various lofts to plug in all the pirs, leds and probably etcs. I've run out of money loving pissed off about those selotape down boxes that cost a fortune. But I've still got a bunch of downlighters, PIRS etc that need to penetrate my air tight layer. So I'm going rogue.  All these storage ice cream tubs and areal liquids are now mine.  Thats 20 ice cream tubs, cost like over a hundred quid if you tell them youre sellotaping them into your ceiling. So... don't tell them  Drill a hole, install airtight bung  install into ceiling Theyre too big though for the PIR sensors. No relevant product seems to exist. this looks good thought  drill a hole in it  Is it an ikea plastic cup that sells for 6 for a quid fifty? yes it is  does it work?  yep Utility room ceiling  looks cool with light shining up  then with candyfloss in  Thats just one layer, need another layer in
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Aug 19, 2023 22:40
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Aren't plastic electrical fixtures supposed to be made of something fire-resistant?
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withak posted:Aren't plastic electrical fixtures supposed to be made of something fire-resistant? insulated plastic electrical fixtures
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The combination of penny pinching on things like fixtures & fittings on one hand, and casually dropping thousands on other bits never ceases to amaze.
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Just Winging It posted:The combination of penny pinching on things like fixtures & fittings on one hand, and casually dropping thousands on other bits never ceases to amaze. Agreed. Absolutely hilarious
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I really badly want, 30 years from now, a thread where a new owner starts getting into the guts of the L and just slowly loses their drat minds for our entertainment. "So today I got into the ceiling crawlspace and got wrapped up in miles of copper. I was stuck up there for 18 hours, I think I'm lucky to be alive. I traced what I believe to be a lighting circuit to...an ice cream tub."
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Just Winging It posted:The combination of penny pinching on things like fixtures & fittings on one hand, and casually dropping thousands on other bits never ceases to amaze. 
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Arrath posted:I really badly want, 30 years from now, a thread where a new owner starts getting into the guts of the L and just slowly loses their drat minds for our entertainment. then I found out the sensor that was making the place run at full heat and had the place at 200 degrees was in a loving ikea cup sellotaped to paper?????
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Arrath posted:I really badly want, 30 years from now, a thread where a new owner starts getting into the guts of the L and just slowly loses their drat minds for our entertainment. Most people might get a little box full of bits of papers with warranty of cooker, lights fans etc. Whoever buys this needs to get a hard book binded print-out of this thread
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I think goons are overegging how weird the house is. Sure the smart home stuff is overcomplicated and definitely not going to work well, but a lot more thought and care seems to be going into the actual construction and finishing than a lot of places.
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distortion park posted:I think goons are overegging how weird the house is. Sure the smart home stuff is overcomplicated and definitely not going to work well, but a lot more thought and care seems to be going into the actual construction and finishing than a lot of places. Agreed, like the whole mockery around the Ethernet cables... Multiple switches, unless you are dealing with high end managed enterprise hardware, introduce a whole new level of failure points and complexity. Ethernet cable is cheap, and it is cheapest when it's run before the walls are up. Its exactly how I would have done it if given the chance.
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For me it’s more the contrast between doubling down on a “correct” approach in the face of cheaper paths more travelled, and cutting every corner possible in every other area, with no real way of knowing which one you’re going to from one post to the next.
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