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Jaded Burnout posted:I can’t speak for why he’s not using it but as someone who had to install a whole lot of it I can confirm that rockwool is also terrible to be around re itching and discomfort. not in my experience. it is probably only 1/4 (in my opinion) as itchy as fiberglass. and when you are doing an entire house, that is a huge difference.
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I thought the reason people used itchy insulation is so rats / birds / mice don't steal it?
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Bobby Deluxe posted:I thought the reason people used itchy insulation is so rats / birds / mice don't steal it? Doubt it - rodents will gnaw through steel wool given time
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pseudorandom name posted:The angle iron supporting the brick above the empty hole is resting on that half brick and that half of the full brick. He could probably do a fake lintel. Just use 1x6s on the front and back. They can either just stick out a little or he could cut like 1" of brick out so that they're recessed and sit flush
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Failed Imagineer posted:Doubt it - rodents will gnaw through steel wool given time They'll gnaw through steel wire given time. I think the idea is about it being uncomfortable to nest in.
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goatface posted:I think the idea is about it being uncomfortable to nest in. Good luck with that. quote:Nests recovered from trees in Rotterdam in the Netherlands and Antwerp in Belgium were found to be constructed almost entirely from strips of long metal spikes that are often attached to buildings to deter birds from setting up home on the structures. quote:About 25 years ago, Moeliker collected a pigeon’s nest from an oil refinery in Rotterdam harbour, a place he described as having “nothing green, only industry, concrete and bad air”. quote:It is not the first time birds have been found to incorporate urban materials into their nests. In 1933, a South African museum reported a crow’s nest fashioned from hard-drawn copper, galvanised iron and barbed wire. Nails, screws and even drug users’ syringes have all found their way into birds’ nests.
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I ain't saying it's a good theory, but I think it's more about that than them getting through it.
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SpeedFreek posted:This whole thread has been one extreme to the other, pilings driven halfway to the earth's core and walls made out of puffed rice. The UK has been building walls out of cement puffed rice for years, it's been going well, google RAAC school collapse.
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Some Guy From NY posted:not in my experience. it is probably only 1/4 (in my opinion) as itchy as fiberglass. and when you are doing an entire house, that is a huge difference. I was more coming at it from the perspective that rockwool is also unpleasant but I wasn’t aware fibreglass was that much worse.
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pseudorandom name posted:The angle iron supporting the brick above the empty hole is resting on that half brick and that half of the full brick. yeah the idea is that the angle iron would instead be supported by the entire lintel, and in fact with a lintel the iron is superfluous. Assuming a real vs. cosmetic or faked up lintel. But probably I'd just do the wood as a facade and leave the bricks as they are at this point to avoid trying to neatly cut in-place bricks.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Oh and Wickes have cancelled the floor board order again. They thought it was the same order as yesterday that they (also wrongly) cancelled so didn't put it on the lorry. FFS lmao
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Failed Imagineer posted:I mean the blockwork is completely standard in European construction, 99 has just chosen to hyperfixate on it (understandable since they seem like pretty poo poo blocks in a few different ways even though they do the job just fine). I think it's fair to fixate on the blocks. I had to remove a breeze block wall from my shed and it took a big disc cutter and sledgehammer to get the job done. In 99's place i'd just wipe the wall away with some kitchen roll.
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Sep 1, 2023 17:09
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Wickes: Chapter 3 - Order Odium
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Stop whining about your blocks. This is what they look liked when they're proper hosed: https://twitter.com/ProfPaulDunlop/status/1686869987183501312
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Gasmask posted:Stop whining about your blocks. This is what they look liked when they're proper hosed: Ashes to ashes Dust to dust
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Gasmask posted:Stop whining about your blocks. This is what they look liked when they're proper hosed: I foresee a new IRA weapon in that region: the Wall-Piercing Scone
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I've seen bread tougher than those bricks.
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In Vancouver you tear down your place to do a joint land sale to a developer way before 17 years is up. They got good use out of it!
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CancerCakes posted:The UK has been building walls out of cement puffed rice for years, it's been going well, google RAAC school collapse. I was just reading about that on the Guardian. Sounds pretty completely hosed.
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https://www.theguardian.com/education/2023/sep/01/how-long-has-raac-in-schools-been-a-concern-and-what-happens-now Wait the service life is 30 years? Is that true of the house of L? I was starting to buy into the "silly Americans building their houses out of sticks" thing too
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Epitope posted:Wait the service life is 30 years? Is that true of the house of L? I was starting to buy into the "silly Americans building their houses out of sticks" thing too No. I.. er don't think so at least. The manufacturer says in their bumf: hansen posted:Durability I think the problem with the raac stuff is not so much the block but the reinforced steel laid in it, which the aerated concrete fails to protect from moisture properly so it rusts, degrades and suddenly collapses. But the reporting is pretty crap so who knows. Maybe they just need to live a little, schools and hospitals may not even fall down, let's just see what happens.
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It's different stuff.
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Yeah that is a bit... Unambitious
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It's fine guys, it's just the foundations that are made of aerated concrete.
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Leperflesh posted:assumed 60 year life expectancy of a building? what in the world? If things were built to last forever the building industry might not meet their required economic growth, and property is the only thing supporting the economy.
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Leperflesh posted:assumed 60 year life expectancy of a building? what in the world? I guess the build was only supposed to last 6 months and it's been at least 6 times that. So by the same logic the building itself should do the same and last at least 360 years.
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I mean, the good news is that when/if the walls spontaneously becomes fine dust 60 years from now, the foundation is built to outlast Ozymandias so you can just build a new structure right on top of it, bam, good to go.
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Shoulda just made the whole place out of pilings.
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I am pretty sure the network cables can become structural once the concrete fails.
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from the inside the blocks/concrete is fine as its airtight, so in 5 years 99 will be updating us on the glass bubble being installed around the L house
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Leperflesh posted:assumed 60 year life expectancy of a building? what in the world? Yeah, not very bold are they. Even in young north american cities piles of houses are older than 60 years and they are not anywhere near end of life. This is what happens when you don't have old growth forests to build houses out of and decide to make blocks out of air.
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Believe it or not there are also houses in the UK that are more than 60 years old.
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Not for long
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Fidelitious posted:Even in young north american cities piles of houses are older than 60 years and they are not anywhere near end of life.
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Even with the best intentions and materials brick will blow and mortar will soften over a hundred years. Is that a “house stays up” service life or a “materials will stand up to remodelling” service life? Those specific fallen over buildings notwithstanding (lol).
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Einstürzende NotJustANumbauten
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Jaded Burnout posted:Even with the best intentions and materials brick will blow and mortar will soften over a hundred years. Is that a “house stays up” service life or a “materials will stand up to remodelling” service life? in that respect we should have just stayed with thatch since that gives you an opportunity to fix up everything every 20 years or so
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Vim Fuego posted:Einstürzende NotJustANumbauten oh no
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Honestly you can build houses out of any old poo poo and they should still last more than 60 years. My parents' old place was an old chapel that was (badly) converted into a scout hut for some amount of time and then (badly) converted into a house after that. Proper poo poo construction, single skin brick... built in 1905 and still standing - though it was subsiding and so needed the foundations underpinning. I think whoever bought it is likely gonna knock it down and start from scratch which is probably the sensible option.
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