Ukraine War: "20 months of war for a used car."

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3D Megadoodoo: Nov 25, 2010

Horsebanger posted:

YY-MM-DD is what I use for my logs cause it easily sorts...

I use poo.

# ? Oct 12, 2023 07:53

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# ? Jun 9, 2024 11:51

Antigravitas: Dec 8, 2019; Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:

There's no point assuming good faith with Twitter users.

# ? Oct 12, 2023 07:56

Toxic Mental: Jun 1, 2019

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMoPXxT3Eqk&t=13s

Reporting from Ukraine's latest update suggests Russia threw 100+ tanks and APV's into the attack and lost almost all of them in just a day, resorting to meat waves instead

wow Ukrainian counteroffensive COMPLETELY FAILS!!!!

# ? Oct 12, 2023 09:12

Alan Smithee: Jan 4, 2005; A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

yes but you see if russia throws another 100 tanks Ukraine will run out of $200 million and what then

What

then

# ? Oct 12, 2023 09:35

Shaman Tank Spec: Dec 26, 2003; *blep*

Our national security agency is broadcasting more spicy times with Russian bullshit ahead.

Original article: https://yle.fi/a/74-20054729
Journalist: Marjatta Rautio, Tuomas Rimpil�inen

Yle.fi posted:

Finnish Security Intelligence Service warns: Russia is prepared to take action against Finland, if it deems it necessary
According to the FSIS, our Nato membership does offer protection against violent attacks

Russia's invasion of Ukraine is affecting Russia's intelligence operations in Finland, and is strengthening its attempts at influencing. Russia is currently treating Finland as a hostile state. According to the FSIS, the threat of attacks on critical infrastructure has increased, but the likelihood of a crippling attack is not high. According to FSIS, Finland's relationship with Russia has deteriorated considerably, and Russia is prepared to take concrete actions against Finland.

This was reported by FSIS chief Antti Pelttari in a FSIS press conference on Thursday morning. The conference was held to publish the FSIS' new report on national security. The agency is currently investigating a flagrant act of sabotage against a gas pipeline connecting Finland and Estonia. No evidence of the guilty party has been released, but one possibility is that the act was perpetrated by Russia.

According to Pelttari the possibility of a national actor can't be excluded. FSIS is not commenting now on how likely it considers this, as the responsibility for releasing information is with the Central Criminal Police. Special investigator Suvi Alvari of the FSIS commented, that Russia benefits from the act regardless of who perpetrated it.

- It's a strong deterrent

Nato provides security to Finland
The FSIS believes that Russia's acts against Finland will likely be strengthened by Finland joining Nato, the war in Ukriane continuing, the increased confrontation between the West and Russia, and the increased sanctions against Russia.

- Russia is currently focused on the war in Ukraine, and to break down their international isolation. However, the threat of Russian intelligence and influence on Finland has not disappeared, Pelttari says.

Russia's influence aims to weaken Nato's and the EU's unity, and to lower the amount of support western countries provide to Ukraine. According to Pelttari, our Nato membership does offer protection against the "more violent forms" of influencing. According to the FSIS, Russia is interested in the concrete results of Finland's Nato membership, the material support being provided to Ukraine, and the possibility of bypassing sanctions through Finland. They also estimate that the threat of hostile actions against Finland has increased.

Spying is moving to the cyber world

According to FSIS, Russian spies are finding it harder to operate in Finland as a result of the illegal war of invasion, and the resulting diplomatic expulsions. Because of this they are forced to move their intelligence operations into the cyber world. China is also involved in spying on Finland. Their intelligence operations focus on our foreign and security policies, and our high technology.

The export sanctions levied by the United States on China increase their need to obtain information through spying. The FSIS is estimating that China is also increasing its surveillance of Finnish citizens with Chinese backgrounds.

Unprotected home routers are a significant threat

FSIS emphasizes that most of Finns are not the targets of Russian or Chinese cyber espionage, but anyone with an unprotected device, like a home router, connected to the Internet could be facilitating it. More and more devices are connected to the Internet and can be controlled externally.

This provides opportunities for illegal remote access for state actors, who are trying to break into systems belonging to Finland and partner countries. Especially unprotected or not updated home routers are currently a meaningful risk to our national security. Devices being used in critical infrastructure have a higher level of protection.

# ? Oct 12, 2023 09:48

zone: Dec 6, 2016

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1712401723577213173#m
Czechs and Danes are going to supply lots of heavy weaponry, tanks, and APCs just as soon as they can be arranged.

# ? Oct 12, 2023 11:43

NTRabbit: Aug 15, 2012; i wear this armour to protect myself from the histrionics of hysterical women

bitches

https://twitter.com/KyivPost/status/1712416428555481253

Day 596 of the 3 day land invasion

Initial rumours were that it was sunk after striking a Russian mine, but the Ukrainian Navy is claiming only damage and not how it was damaged

# ? Oct 12, 2023 12:08

CAT INTERCEPTOR: Nov 9, 2004; Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

Black Sea Fleet losing to a country without a navy.

# ? Oct 12, 2023 12:31

Pot Smoke Phoenix: Aug 15, 2007; Smoke 'em if you gottem!; Dinosaur Gum

I�m sure it�s a coincidence that Russia�s premier fleet looks a lot like the failed US venture of it�s �littoral combat� bullshit.

If Russian ships are made out of aluminum, like the US�s clitoral I mean LITTORAL ships were, then Ukraine should just lob missiles with liquid mercury warheads at Russia�s fleet because look what mercury does to aluminum:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVkpQKRgHvU

# ? Oct 12, 2023 13:03

steinrokkan: Apr 2, 2011; Soiled Meat

Pot Smoke Phoenix posted:

I’m sure it’s a coincidence that Russia’s premier fleet looks a lot like the failed US venture of it’s “littoral combat” bullshit.

If Russian ships are made out of aluminum, like the US’s clitoral I mean LITTORAL ships were, then Ukraine should just lob missiles with liquid mercury warheads at Russia’s fleet because look what mercury does to aluminum:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVkpQKRgHvU

If Russian boats are built like American littoral ships, Ukraine just needs to wait for them to dissolve in water, as USS Alka Seltzer did.

# ? Oct 12, 2023 13:26

rowkey bilbao: Jul 24, 2023

please don't throw mercury at the sea

# ? Oct 12, 2023 13:28

Alan Smithee: Jan 4, 2005; A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

mmmm Black Sea salmon!

# ? Oct 12, 2023 13:29

zone: Dec 6, 2016

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1712424406000005277#m
:laugh:

# ? Oct 12, 2023 13:34

Charlz Guybon: Nov 16, 2010

Shaman Tank Spec posted:

Our national security agency is broadcasting more spicy times with Russian bullshit ahead.

Original article: https://yle.fi/a/74-20054729
Journalist: Marjatta Rautio, Tuomas Rimpil�inen

There's no way they would dare. So much of the Russian army is in Ukraine or dead that the Finns could waltz in and seize St. Petersburg if war broke out.

# ? Oct 12, 2023 13:39

Deus Ex Macklemore: Jul 2, 2004; Zelensky's Zealots

Pot Smoke Phoenix posted:

I�m sure it�s a coincidence that Russia�s premier fleet looks a lot like the failed US venture of it�s �littoral combat� bullshit.

If Russian ships are made out of aluminum, like the US�s clitoral I mean LITTORAL ships were, then Ukraine should just lob missiles with liquid mercury warheads at Russia�s fleet because look what mercury does to aluminum:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVkpQKRgHvU

If they're like the Littorals they don't even have to attack them. Just wait until they fall apart.

# ? Oct 12, 2023 13:42

Humphreys: Jan 26, 2013; We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule

Pot Smoke Phoenix posted:

I�m sure it�s a coincidence that Russia�s premier fleet looks a lot like the failed US venture of it�s �littoral combat� bullshit.

If Russian ships are made out of aluminum, like the US�s clitoral I mean LITTORAL ships were, then Ukraine should just lob missiles with liquid mercury warheads at Russia�s fleet because look what mercury does to aluminum:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVkpQKRgHvU

LOL those were built by an Australian shipbuilder. And the US Navy didn't do the equivalent of 'tick this box if you want' on sacrificial anodes/cathodes due to the different types of metals used.

# ? Oct 12, 2023 13:53

Pot Smoke Phoenix: Aug 15, 2007; Smoke 'em if you gottem!; Dinosaur Gum

Humphreys posted:

LOL those were built by an Australian shipbuilder. And the US Navy didn't do the equivalent of 'tick this box if you want' on sacrificial anodes/cathodes due to the different types of metals used.

(And yet Russia still copied the design) :lol:

# ? Oct 12, 2023 13:58

weg: Jun 6, 2006; Reassisted Retrogression

rowkey bilbao posted:

please don't throw mercury at the sea

But it's a cheap and legal thrill!

# ? Oct 12, 2023 14:13

Pot Smoke Phoenix: Aug 15, 2007; Smoke 'em if you gottem!; Dinosaur Gum

Can we carpet bomb the Russian fleet with car batteries; as a treat?

# ? Oct 12, 2023 14:24

mobby_6kl: Aug 9, 2009; by Fluffdaddy

Pot Smoke Phoenix posted:

Can we carpet bomb the Russian fleet ~~with car batteries~~; as a treat?

Yes, we can

# ? Oct 12, 2023 14:29

weg: Jun 6, 2006; Reassisted Retrogression

Pot Smoke Phoenix posted:

Can we carpet bomb the Russian fleet with car batteries; as a treat?

The MIC extends a lifeline to Sears to retool and become America's premier weaponized battery manufacturer. The DieHard brand finally lives up to its name.

# ? Oct 12, 2023 14:34

Samuel L. Hacksaw: Mar 26, 2007; Never Stop Posting

steinrokkan posted:

If Russian boats are built like American littoral ships, Ukraine just needs to wait for them to dissolve in water, as USS Alka Seltzer did.

They're painted. You have to expose the bare un-oxidized aluminum to get that effect.

So they need to be a shaped charge that sand blasts the boat then farts liquid elemental mercury at it.

# ? Oct 12, 2023 14:39

Pot Smoke Phoenix: Aug 15, 2007; Smoke 'em if you gottem!; Dinosaur Gum

mobby_6kl posted:

Yes, we can

weg posted:

The MIC extends a lifeline to Sears to retool and become America's premier weaponized battery manufacturer. The DieHard brand finally lives up to its name.

I like it!

Samuel L. Hacksaw posted:

They're painted. You have to expose the bare un-oxidized aluminum to get that effect.

So they need to be a shaped charge that sand blasts the boat then farts liquid elemental mercury at it.

Exactly.

# ? Oct 12, 2023 14:41

Strategic Tea: Sep 1, 2012

Samuel L. Hacksaw posted:

They're painted. You have to expose the bare un-oxidized aluminum to get that effect.

So they need to be a shaped charge that sand blasts the boat then farts liquid elemental mercury at it.

Napalm munitions but with paint stripper

Seawater does the rest

# ? Oct 12, 2023 14:43

rowkey bilbao: Jul 24, 2023

a tandem charge but it's an actual tandem for the russians to loot and ride home

# ? Oct 12, 2023 14:46

weg: Jun 6, 2006; Reassisted Retrogression

Strategic Tea posted:

Napalm munitions but with paint stripper

Seawater does the rest

They used water based paint and after hitting a school of tuna the mercury decomposition has already started lol

# ? Oct 12, 2023 14:56

Antigravitas: Dec 8, 2019; Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:

Deploy miniature drones that screw off the sacrificial anodes on the fleet.

# ? Oct 12, 2023 14:58

Deus Ex Macklemore: Jul 2, 2004; Zelensky's Zealots

Humphreys posted:

LOL those were built by an Australian shipbuilder.

Well that explains why the toilets go the wrong way

# ? Oct 12, 2023 15:08

Pot Smoke Phoenix: Aug 15, 2007; Smoke 'em if you gottem!; Dinosaur Gum

Antigravitas posted:

Deploy miniature drones that screw off the sacrificial anodes on the fleet.

May they rest in peace.

-A former cathodic protection technician (for water towers and air craft hangars)

# ? Oct 12, 2023 15:10

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Pot Smoke Phoenix posted:

I�m sure it�s a coincidence that Russia�s premier fleet looks a lot like the failed US venture of it�s �littoral combat� bullshit.

It isn't a coincidence, but it goes the other way. The Littoral Combat Ship was an attempt by the US Navy to develop a capacity that Russia (along with a number of other countries) has been focusing on for decades.

# ? Oct 12, 2023 15:17

Pot Smoke Phoenix: Aug 15, 2007; Smoke 'em if you gottem!; Dinosaur Gum

Gnoman posted:

It isn't a coincidence, but it goes the other way. The Littoral Combat Ship was an attempt by the US Navy to develop a capacity that Russia (along with a number of other countries) has been focusing on for decades.

Ah, I didn�t know that- thanks!

I suppose other navies have adapted a similar shape that appears to be designed to reduce their radar profile, I�m guessing.

I�m just used to Russia copying US/Western aircraft designs and concepts through the decades I figured the littoral ship design was tracking.

# ? Oct 12, 2023 15:23

Karma Comedian: Feb 2, 2012

lushka16 posted:

I was in around the same time and I remember it being ddMMMyy i.e 11OCT23

I took a look at my discharge papers and it seems to be a mix of both! Service dates are YYMMDD but form dates are ddMMMyy

I guess YMMV in a HMMWV

Same I still say my birthday that way

# ? Oct 12, 2023 15:34

Horrorosaurus: Oct 22, 2010

Charlz Guybon posted:

There's no way they would dare. So much of the Russian army is in Ukraine or dead that the Finns could waltz in and seize St. Petersburg if war broke out.

Yes. So they very well could, in fact, dare. Ukraine was very much something that should never have happened, yet here we are. Russian politics towards the west count on unpredictability and while I'm honestly not expecting them to, it's always a possibility.

So far everything I've read here (in Finland not itt specifically) suggests a steep increase in hybrid operations, not an invasion. It would be insanity and I doubt Putins generals would approve of it but honestly sometimes it's hard to tell.

# ? Oct 12, 2023 15:44

Samovar: Jun 4, 2011; When I want to relax, I read an essay by Engels. When I want something more serious, I read Corto Maltese.

Flyinglemur posted:

Well that explains why the toilets go the wrong way

No, it explains why the front fell off.

# ? Oct 12, 2023 16:10

3D Megadoodoo: Nov 25, 2010

Charlz Guybon posted:

There's no way

Imagine saying something beginning with that in the 2020s lmao smhd.

# ? Oct 12, 2023 16:17

Splorange: Feb 23, 2011

Charlz Guybon posted:

There's no way they would dare. So much of the Russian army is in Ukraine or dead that the Finns could waltz in and seize St. Petersburg if war broke out.

What the gently caress would anyone want St Petersburg for.. much less the area between Finland and St Petersburg.

The only winners would be russians who might get that sweet welfare state instead of cleptocracy.

# ? Oct 12, 2023 16:24

EorayMel: May 30, 2015; WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Fran�ais.

Splorange posted:

What the gently caress would anyone want St Petersburg for.. much less the area between Finland and St Petersburg.

The only winners would be russians who might get that sweet welfare state instead of cleptocracy.

Because, as some people may say, the Finns are all fascists who sided with the Wrong People in WW2 and this rubbed off onto them wanting to have racist imperial ambitions in the 21st century via military conquest OP.

Pay no attention to the mobik behind the cope curtain cursing this in between realizing the officer absconded with all the ammo yet again.

# ? Oct 12, 2023 16:27

Eric Cantonese: Dec 21, 2004; You should hear my accent.

Splorange posted:

What the gently caress would anyone want St Petersburg for.. much less the area between Finland and St Petersburg.

The only winners would be russians who might get that sweet welfare state instead of cleptocracy.

I haven't been to St. Petersburg since the late 1990s, but I remember it being very pretty.

# ? Oct 12, 2023 16:33

Splorange: Feb 23, 2011

Eric Cantonese posted:

I haven't been to St. Petersburg since the late 1990s, but I remember it being very pretty.

There's definitely positive things to be said about neo-classical architecture.

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Charlz Guybon: Nov 16, 2010

Splorange posted:

What the gently caress would anyone want St Petersburg for.. much less the area between Finland and St Petersburg.

The only winners would be russians who might get that sweet welfare state instead of cleptocracy.

I didn't say they would annex it. I said they would capture the city during the fighting.

# ? Oct 12, 2023 16:36

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