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Comstar posted:Shouldn’t this tech scare the hell out of everyones navy? No port will be safe and ships at sea could be attacked at any time now without the ability to shut it down like you have with a missile. This has been true since submarines were invented though. It's a change, but not nearly as dramatic as you're making it sound.
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Oct 13, 2023 12:30
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its been like 40 years since serious naval engagement anywhere in the world, 70 years since existential naval engagements anywhere. no navy anywhere actually knows how a serious modern peer naval fight will go
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Oct 13, 2023 12:32
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god please help me posted:Please explain to me why a fully submersible drone would be a game changer versus something like semisubmersed drone? All I'm thinking is that it would be much harder to detect. The response to the drones so far has been to shoot cannons and machine guns at them until you hit something that disables it or sets off the payload. Usually at close range. If it's entirely underwater that isn't going to work very well anymore. First, you're less likely to notice it's there before you get hit. Second, it's hard to aim a gun at something you can't see. Third, bullets don't do so great underwater. This narrows down what can usefully engage these things to heavier cannons.
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Oct 13, 2023 12:36
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Warbadger posted:The response to the drones so far has been to shoot cannons and machine guns at them until you hit something that disables it or sets off the payload. Usually at close range. If it's entirely underwater that isn't going to work very well anymore. Time to unpack the old Hedgehog launchers from WW2 and modernise the payloads.
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Oct 13, 2023 12:39
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David Mitchell did nothing to deserve this 
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Oct 13, 2023 13:28
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   Murz with further commentary on the unfolding disaster at Avdiivka. He sounds about ready to give up entirely.
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Oct 13, 2023 13:59
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3D Megadoodoo posted:You forgot the best part: there is literally literally zero reason to go on Kakola Hill unless you live in one of the lovely but expensive apartments there. Well not now that the funikulaari is broken! But yeah lol true.
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Oct 13, 2023 14:06
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Shaman Tank Spec posted:Well not now that the funikulaari is broken! They (the residents) all drive up the hill, anyway. The single time I tried to go over Kakola Hill (I had hopped in a foreigner's car to help them drive to the Sweden boat terminal because I was too drunk to give directions, and hopped off at the foot of the hill because from there on in she only had to drive straight until the signage popped up. My mother's flat was on the other side of the hill in Port Arthur), the loving elevator was broken and it took me like an hour. Not because it's that high or big, but I was so drunk I got lost three or four times.
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Oct 13, 2023 14:13
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3D Megadoodoo posted:They (the residents) all drive up the hill, anyway. The single time I tried to go over Kakola Hill (I had hopped in a foreigner's car to help them drive to the Sweden boat terminal because I was too drunk to give directions, and hopped off at the foot of the hill because from there on in she only had to drive straight until the signage popped up. My mother's flat was on the other side of the hill in Port Arthur), the loving elevator was broken and it took me like an hour. Not because it's that high or big, but I was so drunk I got lost three or four times. Ive heard variations of this story from several of my Finnish friends. One of them tells a story about coming home to find a friend of his passed out in hi hallway - he'd gotten too drunk to get home and could only remember how to find my buddies house.
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Oct 13, 2023 14:52
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Karma Comedian posted:Ive heard variations of this story from several of my Finnish friends. One of them tells a story about coming home to find a friend of his passed out in hi hallway - he'd gotten too drunk to get home and could only remember how to find my buddies house. I wasn't too drunk to find my way home, it's just it was a "shorter" walk to my mum's place.
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Oct 13, 2023 14:56
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That makes sense to me!
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Oct 13, 2023 14:58
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Lol @ the "9 women and 1 month" thing being a universal joke
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Oct 13, 2023 15:53
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The math checks out. Sounds like you just need more managers to oversee the project.
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Oct 13, 2023 16:13
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Karma Comedian posted:Ive heard variations of this story from several of my Finnish friends. One of them tells a story about coming home to find a friend of his passed out in hi hallway - he'd gotten too drunk to get home and could only remember how to find my buddies house. Back when I lived in student housing in one of the worse parts of Turku, it was routine to have to dodge people who were sleeping in the building's stairwell. It was all fine until one morning I came down to the lobby to find some random dude just taking a poo poo in the middle of the room. This is also a metaphor for Russia's recent history.
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Oct 13, 2023 16:18
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And that man was Boris Yeltsin. The turd is Putin in this metaphor. Putin is a real piece of poo poo.
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Oct 13, 2023 16:22
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Data Graham posted:Lol @ the "9 women and 1 month" thing being a universal joke this guy gets 9 women in a month?! 
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Oct 13, 2023 16:26
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Comstar posted:Shouldn’t this tech scare the hell out of everyones navy? No port will be safe and ships at sea could be attacked at any time now without the ability to shut it down like you have with a missile. Ooh! Ooh! I know the answer to this one, and what's better, it's REALLY funny! So a few biotech startups had the brain genius idea to start doing designer gene splices like something out of a loving 1960s short story recently. One of them was adding spider spinnerets to dairy goat udders, in the hope of having pre-spooled, on-demand spider silk spun on an industrial scale. They called it BioSteel. They'd hoped to make it into a suitable textile for everything from t-shirts to stab vests (and t-shirts that are also stab vests). Well, long story short, it turns out that Prokhor Zakharov from Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri was completely right when he said "Remember: genes are NOT blueprints. You can't just take the "genes for a trunk" and get an giraffe with a trunk. There ARE no genes for trunks." They did manage to make spinnerets in a goat's udder somehow, but they never really worked well because the silk would keep coming out with milk all up in it. So it was more like spider-man shooting a web ball and it just kinda gums up everything it hits, and that's that. You can't really use it that well. Which is when the navy was like, "we will totally give you a grant to turn your BioSteel Goats into factories for a waterborne net cannon. It apparently goes through the water pretty good so you could use it to snare out both semisubmerged and submerged drones reasonably well, in addition for the obvious grant statement of "gum up a dude's propellers so we can overtake them." Also: BIOSTEEL(tm) GOAT
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Oct 13, 2023 17:22
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thats a 400k grant, its nothing. dude was just a good salesguy
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Oct 13, 2023 17:30
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bob dobbs is dead posted:thats a 400k grant, its nothing. dude was just a good salesguy BIOSTEEL(tm) GOAT
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Oct 13, 2023 17:35
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look at that branding and tell me that man was a good salesguy look at it
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Oct 13, 2023 17:35
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Why use goats instead of cows for this 
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Oct 13, 2023 17:39
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EorayMel posted:Why use goats instead of cows for this Lactose intolerant spiders of course.
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Oct 13, 2023 17:43
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so let me get this straight, the russians are basicaly just trying to do a big counter offensive against a very fortified town and are basicaly just getting blown away because they either do tank colums like tuskan raiders or just do infantry and tank charges.
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Oct 13, 2023 17:44
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Dapper_Swindler posted:so let me get this straight, the russians are basicaly just trying to do a big counter offensive against a very fortified town and are basicaly just getting blown away because they either do tank colums like tuskan raiders or just do infantry and tank charges. I'm sure it all sounded perfectly reasonably when it was brought up in the meeting... the implementation left something to be desired. 
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Oct 13, 2023 17:46
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Dapper_Swindler posted:so let me get this straight, the russians are basicaly just trying to do a big counter offensive against a very fortified town and are basicaly just getting blown away because they either do tank colums like tuskan raiders or just do infantry and tank charges. Moreso than usual lately if the report about 45 confirmed lost vehicles minimum is anything to go by, and given the performances of Russian soldiers since day 1, yeah pretty much.
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Oct 13, 2023 17:47
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Its amazing that a minimally trained force cannot make any gains. Almost like lack of an effective leadership, lack of an NCO corps, and lack of training means your Army is utter horseshit and no amount of human waves is gonna change that.
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Oct 13, 2023 17:48
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CommieGIR posted:Its amazing that a minimally trained force cannot make any gains. Almost like lack of an effective leadership, lack of an NCO corps, and lack of training means your Army is utter horseshit and no amount of human waves is gonna change that. The part about Ukraine actually valuing life even if it means slowing down the counter-offensive and not aimlessly throwing soldiers away into an at-best highly risky and at-worst worthless meatgrinder maneuver is especially relevant here
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Oct 13, 2023 17:50
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Just Another Lurker posted:I'm sure it all sounded perfectly reasonably when it was brought up in the meeting... the implementation left something to be desired. Notes from the meeting: "They're Ukrainians. How hard can it be?"
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Oct 13, 2023 17:56
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the popes toes posted:Notes from the meeting: "They're Ukrainians. How hard can it be?" That Murz commentary certainly adds credence to that type of attitude.
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Oct 13, 2023 18:07
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Dapper_Swindler posted:so let me get this straight, the russians are basicaly just trying to do a big counter offensive against a very fortified town and are basicaly just getting blown away because they either do tank colums like tuskan raiders or just do infantry and tank charges. it worked in Bakhmut, eventually, over an absolute mountain of their own corpses. So surely it can work twice! 
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Oct 13, 2023 18:40
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the popes toes posted:Notes from the meeting: "They're Ukrainians. How hard can it be?" A quote from the start of the war by a Ukrainian soldier that has always stayed in my mind: "We are very lucky that they are so loving stupid". He says it at 20 seconds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QuGNa3osg4 
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Oct 13, 2023 18:45
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Something that's stuck with me is that yes, we're lucky they're so loving stupid, but on the other hand, if they weren't so loving stupid, all the way up, they wouldn't be there in the first place. They wouldn't be sent there, without training. Of course they're loving stupid. It's not lucky. It's a loving tragedy. It's a loving tragedy they're so loving stupid.
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Oct 13, 2023 18:53
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tiaz posted:it worked in Bakhmut, eventually, over an absolute mountain of their own corpses. So surely it can work twice! it worked in bakhmut because they had wagner nazi kill squads backing them up as well as other specialists. now that Fester ultimate russian window pludge along with his friends, they don't have that
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Oct 13, 2023 19:00
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Dapper_Swindler posted:it worked in bakhmut because they had wagner nazi kill squads backing them up as well as other specialists. now that Fester ultimate russian window pludge along with his friends, they don't have that you never know until you try, and so they are trying 
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Oct 13, 2023 19:03
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Coolguye posted:Ooh! Ooh! I know the answer to this one, and what's better, it's REALLY funny! Recent attempts on sticking spider silk genes into silkworms have been a lot more successful.
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Oct 13, 2023 19:06
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I thought Finn's were supposed to be happier.
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Oct 13, 2023 19:07
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Don't they? I thought Wagner was replaced by another PMC. "Red" or something. Both in Ukraine and in African nations. Even replacing the French in some countries.
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Oct 13, 2023 19:20
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tiaz posted:you never know until you try, and so they are trying just an extension of: You Fail 100% of the offensives you don't take
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Oct 13, 2023 19:24
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What does murz mean with "war of 888"?
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Oct 13, 2023 19:42
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Apparently that's the Russia-Georgia war, which started on August 8, 2008
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