ONE YEAR LATER posted:

Yes but it's also explicit in the books that damane don't have a choice to channel, but in the show its more like the a'dam is only really to link and cause pain. How else could Egwene refuse to channel at the end of the episode before the tower gets blasted?

E: Isn't there a scene in the show where Egwene tries to touch the bracelet and her arm gets twisted back?

E2: as to the issue of damane freeing each other, I think if you extrapolate out then yes, it would be a real issue for the Seanchen. But, think about the Seanchen culture and history, to the Seanchen the idea of not collaring a channeler is unthinkable, and we even have book examples of collared damane voluntarily returning to their sul'dam. The concept of a damane freeing another just isn't something Seanchen would think of because to them, it would never happen.

Overall, while I get why they gave Egwene more agency in her escape, I don't really like the change from a book story perspective. I do accept it as a show story thing, though.

ChubbyChecker posted:

weren't there some forsaken statues in some episode? how many different ones were there?

Mage_Boy posted:

Rafe confirmed the have cast a Forsaken we have not seen on screen yet but wouldn't hint at who. He also said he had just flown in to NYCC from the Rhuidean set as well.

calandryll posted:

We finally got to the last episode. Our daughter who never paid attention was really sad with Hopper's death. Overall I thought it was good, a few scenes from the book I would have liked to see with more impact, i.e. Ingtar's death. I'm hoping for more episodes to let the show breath some.

nine-gear crow posted:

Ingtar not being a Darkfriend on the show robs his sacrifice and "redemption" of it's impact and instead just turns it into a weird comedic bit. I just end up doing a sympathy cringe for him. "Aww, it's okay Ingtar, you tried... kind of. lol."

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Nothing in the season says he wasn't a dark friend.

Data Graham posted:

Wonder what Rafe thought viewers were supposed to get out of seeing the Shienaran emblem on the Darkfriend Social attendee at the beginning of the season

Grundulum posted:

There was a dead Shienaran soldier in episode 1, when Perrin et al. find the dead tinker caravan. Killed by the guard dogs. There was a whole scene where Ingtar orders a proper burial over Perrin’s objections, which would have set the stage nicely for a face turn if Ingtar had been given the book treatment in the end.

Valentin posted:

given the obviously bizarrely-executed death scene I wonder if there is in fact an ingtar darkfriend subplot on a cutting room floor somewhere, or in an earlier draft of some of the shooting scripts

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

Yeah this seems very likely

BigHead posted:

The Ingtar death scene was my biggest gripe of the last episode. It was my only gripe really. In the books he holds off the pursuers for a while allowing the others time to escape. In the show he just sort of mildly inconvenienced the pursuers. They were just walking around him continuing after Loial and Perin. Loial and Perin didn't even keep running, they stopped ten feet further on and watched, making the entire sacrifice totally worthless.

RC Cola posted:

Apparently there is an ingtar dark friend reveal deleted scene. I also saw season 3 will have Tanchico space here let's goooo
Hope it's true because it's the best way to handle the wondergirls imo

DTurtle posted:

Yeah, I also thought that they should have cut that differently. Show him attack the Seanchan, the rest running away, cut away to another scene, and then come back to him being overwhelmed. It would have taken the same on-screen time and would have made his sacrifice more meaningful.

A deleted scene would be delightful. Even if it doesn't exist, I still think he was a Darkfriend in the show - they laid out quite a few hints here and there. They probably just didn't have time to really build up for him being as important as in the books.

Where did you get that info? There's nothing (yet?) on WoTseries.com, and they are usually one of the best sources of that kind of stuff. We do know that there is going to be a ton of Two Rivers stuff next season.

DTurtle posted:

We do know that there is going to be a ton of Two Rivers stuff next season.

RC Cola posted:

As you may or may not know. I am the biggest wheel of time fan on these forums

Comrade Blyatlov posted:

Hooooo boy you gonna get more enemies than Lews Therin talking like that

RC Cola posted:

I have plenty of second place trophies and #2 fan ribbons for all of you. I am very generous and handsome.

RC Cola posted:

So wondergirls to tanchico, perrin/loial/Bain/chiad/maybe elyas/Alana/verin to 2 rivers
Mat to andor to meet rahvin maybe? He can meet up with Thom and get the gambling scene in another city? Then to tear to meet up with everyone?
Maybe replace the perrin illian stuff with rand/moiraine/lan filling that in plus darkhounds? Maybe? Or darkhounds moves to 2 rivers and identified by the aes sedei there?

Egwene I am not sure where to throw here?

We also could go to tear early and then everyone splits up. I am super excited that I don't know exactly what's coming

DTurtle posted:

I don't think we will get Tear next season. Rhuidean is confirmed (officially).

DarkHorse posted:

Why do you have to be just slightly taller than me ?!

RC Cola posted:

Give us 10 episodes Jesus gently caress

RC Cola posted:

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

so will rafe chicken out on the sea folk or not

Dr. Clockwork posted:

Sea Folk women will be fully clothed, and the men will be dicks out in a shocking twist in this new turning of the wheel!

Mage_Boy posted:

One other thing Rafe mentioned: we are going to get a "what Liandrin was doing during the finale" early in the next season. From the way he talked, Liandrin's part was expanded because of Kate Fleetwood.