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I have a massive sweet tooth and every single day is a struggle not to immediately give myself diabetus
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 23:58 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 22:03 |
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YESSSSSSS MATARA KAN IS WHO I HOPED SHE WAS I remember her monster girl review, she liked cockroach girls, that's why I thought it was gonna be her Goddamn I'm happy she's back
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# ? Oct 15, 2023 23:59 |
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RuBisCO posted:I have a massive sweet tooth and every single day is a struggle not to immediately give myself diabetus I know that struggle
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# ? Oct 16, 2023 00:05 |
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Captain Invictus posted:YESSSSSSS MATARA KAN IS WHO I HOPED SHE WAS oh, word?
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# ? Oct 16, 2023 01:47 |
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yeah Nina Kosaka was my favorite and she's back now, I'm happy she's playing dwarf fortress for her first post-debut stream, a game she wasn't allowed to play at nijisanji. love it
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# ? Oct 16, 2023 01:59 |
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Captain Invictus posted:she's playing dwarf fortress for her first post-debut stream, a game she wasn't allowed to play at nijisanji knowing fuckall about vtubers this statement is wild to me
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# ? Oct 16, 2023 02:24 |
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the japanese agencies need to ask permission to stream because fair use isnt real
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# ? Oct 16, 2023 02:27 |
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Southern Cassowary posted:knowing fuckall about vtubers this statement is wild to me Dwarf Fortress destroys minds and reaps souls, it's for protection
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# ? Oct 16, 2023 02:28 |
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nijisanji and hololive are actual corporations so they need permission to stream games because theyre basically using those games to make money, as a corporation its a bit different from a random twitch dude. like you can buy stock in hololive.
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# ? Oct 16, 2023 02:29 |
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Endorph posted:nijisanji and hololive are actual corporations so they need permission to stream games because theyre basically using those games to make money, as a corporation yeah like devoid of context i was thinking "oh they didn't think df would get viewers" but this is also crazy i'd heard of stuff like atlus and persona streaming and the guy who just got convicted of a crime because he posted an lp of a steinsgate visual novel and i assume that issues like those come from a similar place symbolic posted:Dwarf Fortress destroys minds and reaps souls, it's for protection i treat dwarf fortress like eve - a funny emergent story generator i will never touch out of fear
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# ? Oct 16, 2023 02:34 |
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Endorph posted:nijisanji and hololive are actual corporations so they need permission to stream games because theyre basically using those games to make money, as a corporation i've wondered about that, because i haven't heard about that being the case for big streamers, which are essentially one person businesses.
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# ? Oct 16, 2023 02:43 |
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It's not a 'corporation' thing as its more a "japanese corporation" thing explicitly. Japan has some real rear end backwards ideas about digital stuff still.
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# ? Oct 16, 2023 02:44 |
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Southern Cassowary posted:i treat dwarf fortress like eve - a funny emergent story generator i will never touch out of fear Rinkles posted:i've wondered about that, because i haven't heard about that being the case for big streamers, which are essentially one person businesses. Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 02:47 on Oct 16, 2023 |
# ? Oct 16, 2023 02:45 |
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most jp companies dont wanna yell at streamers too much. (the steins;gate streaming thing was stupid but also the result of an extremely desperate CEO lashing out because his company is failing) because they know its bad PR, so independent JP streamers just do whatever mostly. but its different with corps.
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# ? Oct 16, 2023 02:46 |
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*nods* Corpo rats...
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# ? Oct 16, 2023 02:48 |
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thinking about the jp streamers playing henry stickmin wondering how they got away with it....fair use be my shield....
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# ? Oct 16, 2023 02:48 |
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Endorph posted:like you can buy stock in hololive. Oh poo poo imma diamond hands hololive 2 da moon!!!!! Genuine vtuber business question, though: are there any numbers on the pay vtubers get when they're with a group like hololive versus tryin to go independent? There's a history of YouTube groups taking advantage of new tubers so it would suck rear end if this a similar situation If this topic of conversation is no good everyone can just ignore me.
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# ? Oct 16, 2023 02:50 |
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Shinjobi posted:Oh poo poo imma diamond hands hololive 2 da moon!!!!! If you keep asking questions like this are the Pinkertons gonna come to your house and beat the poo poo out of you Buschmaki fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Oct 16, 2023 |
# ? Oct 16, 2023 02:54 |
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*thinking really hard about a joke....." Goddamn you half 3D avatar girls do it to me every time
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# ? Oct 16, 2023 02:55 |
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Buschmaki posted:If you keep asking questions like this are gonna the Pinkertons come to your house and beat the poo poo out of you Nowadays you can never really be sure
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# ? Oct 16, 2023 03:03 |
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Shinjobi posted:Oh poo poo imma diamond hands hololive 2 da moon!!!!! the split is generally 33% to the streamer youtube and the company. then the big difference is how each company does merch with Hololive generally having you self-fund merch but you get most of the cut and with Niji giving you like 1% (not a typo) but isn't self funded. You also get some sort of baseline salary. The upside for the cut is better opportunities generally like sponsorships (Korone was just sponsored to play Starfield as an example, she's also a Sonic ambassador with her own DLC costume) and a baseline level of success and not dealing with red tape or legal issues yourself.
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# ? Oct 16, 2023 03:06 |
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now's your chance, snail!
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# ? Oct 16, 2023 03:08 |
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Holo must be an okay place to work, they have about 70 talents and have let, like, 5 of them go over the past 6 years. Niji is just chaos. I have no drat idea what the hell they're doing.
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# ? Oct 16, 2023 03:09 |
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the girl from your lie in april is really pretty
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# ? Oct 16, 2023 03:17 |
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Kild posted:the split is generally 33% to the streamer youtube and the company. then the big difference is how each company does merch with Hololive generally having you self-fund merch but you get most of the cut and with Niji giving you like 1% (not a typo) but isn't self funded. What I've heard about most corpos is that after YT takes their 30% cut of superchat revenue, the remaining 70% is split evenly between the talent and the company. Membership income is less clear. Streamelements donos don't have as much of a platform cut, so come streamers will have links to that as well, but it doesn't match the user-side convenience of SCs.
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# ? Oct 16, 2023 03:20 |
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Mirage posted:Holo must be an okay place to work, they have about 70 talents and have let, like, 5 of them go over the past 6 years. I don't pay much attention to vtubers but my impression is that besides the bare minimum the companies don't actually do much besides collect their cut and roll the dice on how bad they want to bungle an issue for you when it comes up
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# ? Oct 16, 2023 03:24 |
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Namtab posted:now's your chance, snail!
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# ? Oct 16, 2023 03:45 |
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Namtab posted:the japanese agencies need to ask permission to stream because fair use isnt real
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# ? Oct 16, 2023 03:50 |
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the true snail was their internet all along
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# ? Oct 16, 2023 03:53 |
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i think peanut butter cookies are probably better than sex
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# ? Oct 16, 2023 03:56 |
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I don't think that's true at all
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# ? Oct 16, 2023 03:57 |
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Motto posted:I don't pay much attention to vtubers but my impression is that besides the bare minimum the companies don't actually do much besides collect their cut and roll the dice on how bad they want to bungle an issue for you when it comes up The big ones have extremely powerful network effects that will put way more eyes on you by default*, and can open doors in terms of what artists and producers will be willing to talk to you. Even in the smaller ones, you will have a group of collaborators with mutual self-interest to work with, bounce ideas off of, and viewers pulled in by one talent can be introduced to the others naturally. And that's not even considering major events like Fes that no indie could put together. *this is sometimes taken as "anyone would be big if they got into holo", but it's more like "for people to watch you, they have to have heard of you first unless you get lucky with the algo", and corpos can both cover advertising costs and have a pre-existing viewer base who are likely to check you out; once you're past that, it's up to you to retain and grow the audience.
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# ? Oct 16, 2023 03:57 |
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homeless snail posted:I don't think that's true at all no trust me, i am sure
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# ? Oct 16, 2023 03:59 |
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I just finished watching Gridman Universe Kinda sucked, not gonna lie
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# ? Oct 16, 2023 03:59 |
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thinking about the time the hot fad game was nkodice, the japanese boggle game where the dice only spell out poo poo, pussy, and dick, and the corpo vtuber that wanted to play it but wasnt allowed to because of the bad words so he made his own version in rpg maker. and then the nkodice guy got mad and banned all vtubers from playing it on stream and that was legally binding, in japan
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# ? Oct 16, 2023 04:02 |
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Waffleman_ posted:I just finished watching Gridman Universe Well poo poo
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# ? Oct 16, 2023 04:10 |
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its a pretty generic victory lap movie only they assume you're extremely invested in yuta and rikka getting together, which, lol there's some cute moments for yomogi and yume at least
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# ? Oct 16, 2023 04:11 |
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ive been too distracted by eliras new design to pay attention to the nina stuff
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# ? Oct 16, 2023 04:13 |
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congratulations trigger for (gridman movie spoilers) making the most boring pairing that no one gives a poo poo about or likes canon in it
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# ? Oct 16, 2023 04:13 |
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# ? May 25, 2024 22:03 |
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Endorph posted:its a pretty generic victory lap movie only they assume you're extremely invested in yuta and rikka getting together, which, lol It's an incredibly generic toku crossover movie type deal except I'm watching Gridman, I'm not here for that
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# ? Oct 16, 2023 04:14 |