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Brook is definitely the oldest but he spent most of his life as a wandering spirit, so has like a hundred year gap in knowledge. As far as functional adults, Robin and Franky are 30 something and Jinbei is like 40? Brook probably died at 40-50 and spent a long time doing nothing
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Person Dyslexic posted:Wasn’t Dragon a marine at one point? My theory is he was at God Valley and whatever happened there is what pushed him over the edge into becoming a revolutionary. I like the idea that all the Marines were down for the triennial genocidal extermination of an entire country festival, but what happened next was what made them question their life choices. Dawgstar posted:I wondered why Yamato was trending and the episode with him in the men's bathhouse dropped. People are reacting as expected. People just need to accept that it's ok to find a dude hot.
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Dawgstar posted:I wondered why Yamato was trending and the episode with him in the men's bathhouse dropped. People are reacting as expected. I looked at the tweets because I hate myself and discovered that apparently in Pirate Warriors 4 Sanji can actually fight Yamato? Wrap it up, dude's a guy
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If I remember right it was said Franky's parents were pirates who dumped him at Water 7 cause he was annoying and that's it so it's entirely possible they're still alive somewhere
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Gyges posted:I like the idea that all the Marines were down for the triennial genocidal extermination of an entire country festival, but what happened next was what made them question their life choices. Everyone keeps talking like this but I really doubt anyone under Vice Admiral is going to this island knowing exactly what theyre guarding
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Person Dyslexic posted:Wasn’t Dragon a marine at one point? My theory is he was at God Valley and whatever happened there is what pushed him over the edge into becoming a revolutionary. Man this is gonna be a crazy flashback, cause it's like a lot further back than a lot of others and includes a bunch of characters we've never really seen proper at this age. Let's see, 38 years ago... Shanks was 1 year old, we don't know how old Garling is, but with how he looks, he's probably early 20s. With his attitude, does he care about his son? Did he put him into a box to get rid of him? Or save him? Does he even know he has a son and it's the mother that did this? Kuma is 11, Ivankov is 15 and Ginny is unknown. If she is Bonney's mother, then they'll have known each other for 14 years before having her if Bonney's age of 24 is correct, hopefully there's some good times in those years. Dragon is 17, so the start of the Revolutionaries could begin here if all 3 of the starting members are affected by this event at an impressionable age. Luffy is still 19 years away, so Dragon seemed really busy to not have a kid until 36. Garp is 40, Roger is 39, this is one year after he reached Lodestar and learned of the Road Poneglyphs, maybe that's why he's here, and we don't know Xebec's age. Interestingly, Blackbeard is 2 years old, so definitely could be Xebec's son, and was picked up by Whitebeard after the incident. Incidentally, Whitebeard is 36, Linlin is 30, she had/will have Mont-d'Or, her 30th child, this year, and Kaidou is 21, perhaps without Devil Fruit. Also Buckingham Stussy is 38, makes sense she'd hit it off with Newgate. While she might not be on Whitebeard's crew, Weevil is still 3 years from being born, so did they meet again after this? We don't know how old Shiki and John are. Some other figures that might show up are the older Marines such as Kong, who was confirmed Fleet Admiral 11 years after God Valley, and could still be one now. Then Sengoku, who is 41, and Tsuru, who is 38. Maybe we'll even see the perspectives from a 17 year old Sakazuki, a 20 year old Borsalino or an 11 year old Kuzan. Also Foxy was born this year. Celestial Dragon parentage confirmed???
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And to put it into perspective, Brook had been in the Florian Triangle for 12 years by God's Valley. Dude is fuckin old as hell, he might not have even heard of Rocks.
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I think Brook has a line early on about remembering when Roger was a fresh rookie. Roger being older than Whitebeard still fucks me up.
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To be fair, the idea of Whitebeard as we saw him the most was him like 20 years after Roger died. Roger probably would have looked old too if he was alive.
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I am still amazed at how Sengoku looked when he was a year older than Garp. It took until after the time skip for age to hit him.
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MonsterEnvy posted:I am still amazed at how Sengoku looked when he was a year older than Garp. It took until after the time skip for age to hit him. It's called hair dye.
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scary ghost dog posted:we’ve actually never seen two characters that were biologically related to each other except for ace and roger Hasn't basically every post-timeskip arc (and a few of the pre-timeskip arcs) been about parents and their relationships with their kids? MonsterEnvy posted:I think Garp looks too much like Luffy to not be blood related to him. Someone mentioned it a good while up thread, but I'm pretty partial to the theory that Dragon is Garp's son in law.
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For what it is vaguely worth, Dragon is likely still serving the Marines during Rogers execution in the Live Action. There's a point where you can see two Marine lines splitting the crowd and Bogard is on one side and Dragon on the other more or less equally positioned. Well, Dragon's big obvious green cloak.
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Nuebot posted:Someone mentioned it a good while up thread, but I'm pretty partial to the theory that Dragon is Garp's son in law. Garp outright called Dragon his son during his flashback to training Kuzan so it's probably not this.
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Funky Valentine posted:Garp outright called Dragon his son during his flashback to training Kuzan so it's probably not this.
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Well, adopted or biological, one imagines they'd have a bond of some sort at this age. I would not be surprised at all if, over the course of this flashback, we see Dragon was a young Marine under Garp, and whatever happens here is what inspires Dragon to destroy the unacceptably hosed up world order. Honestly, the bit I have a harder time imagining is how Garp can possibly stick around after this. I kind of hope it's addressed. Xebec being the villain does suggest there's a role for the Navy in protecting people from horrifically powerful pirates still. It'd be interesting if there were some nuanced reactions to this supremely hosed up situation.
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I think Dragon and Luffy are Garp’s son and grandson by blood.
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I hope the God valley incident arc lasts a year
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I'm just assuming Garp and Sengoku were trying to be the lesser of two evils because Imu getting moody could wipe out millions of people. Choosing to wipe out thousands in places like God's Valley or Ohara to save millions of people is probably also why Kuzan hedged his bets on Blackbeard because he's willing to do whatever it takes to overthrow gods versus Luffy who is a pretty happy go lucky guy who doesn't want to see anyone die as long as he'd fed
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Nuebot posted:Hasn't basically every post-timeskip arc (and a few of the pre-timeskip arcs) been about parents and their relationships with their kids? hm thats a good point. but how can we be sure they are blood related. as far as i know the only character weve ever seen bleed is sanji.
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Tampa Bae posted:I'm just assuming Garp and Sengoku were trying to be the lesser of two evils because Imu getting moody could wipe out millions of people. Choosing to wipe out thousands in places like God's Valley or Ohara to save millions of people is probably also why Kuzan hedged his bets on Blackbeard because he's willing to do whatever it takes to overthrow gods versus Luffy who is a pretty happy go lucky guy who doesn't want to see anyone die as long as he'd fed I thought the main reason Kuzan quit the Marines was because of his disagreement with Akainu, not the World Nobles - precisely because of Akainu’s willingness to kill some innocent people for the “greater good” at Ohara. So now he’s siding with Blackbeard, who seems to have no moral principles against killing innocents or anything else, only ambitions and whims - how is that any better?
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Silver2195 posted:I thought the main reason Kuzan quit the Marines was because of his disagreement with Akainu, not the World Nobles - precisely because of Akainu’s willingness to kill some innocent people for the “greater good” at Ohara. So now he’s siding with Blackbeard, who seems to have no moral principles against killing innocents or anything else, only ambitions and whims - how is that any better?
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Kuzan is being a plant is incredibly obvious (moral disagreements, freezing Garp vs killing him) to the point that there's almost certainly something going on.
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CatstropheWaitress posted:Kuzan is being a plant is incredibly obvious (moral disagreements, freezing Garp vs killing him) to the point that there's almost certainly something going on. i think its possible that kuzan just doesnt know what is going on
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CatstropheWaitress posted:Kuzan is being a plant is incredibly obvious No you're thinking of Ryokyugu
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Previously I believed that Skypeia through Eneis Lobby was peak One Piece and I am really stretching here but I think I see some parallels. Wano parallels Skypeia (Luffy defeats an impossibly strong enemy by gaining a new understanding of his power). Then we had Water 7 where the straw hats directly go againts CP 9 and get caught in a government plot, which we have Egghead now where the Straw Hats fight CP 0 and get caught in a government plot. Eneis Lobby has the Straw Hats declare war against the world governmen and uhhh this arc seems to be like it's doubling down on that. What I'm saying is we are getting peak One Piece again but this time on steroids so I'm pretty pumped.
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Eneis Lobby is gonna be Maris Jeoise and the toppling of the WG and/or the redline, I can feel it
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Instead of burning a random WG flag, Luffy is going to burn the Empty Throne
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Mraagvpeine posted:Tweet's gone https://i.imgur.com/Gco1YGg.mp4
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PringleCreamEgg posted:Previously I believed that Skypeia through Eneis Lobby was peak One Piece and I am really stretching here but I think I see some parallels. Wano parallels Skypeia (Luffy defeats an impossibly strong enemy by gaining a new understanding of his power). Then we had Water 7 where the straw hats directly go againts CP 9 and get caught in a government plot, which we have Egghead now where the Straw Hats fight CP 0 and get caught in a government plot. Eneis Lobby has the Straw Hats declare war against the world governmen and uhhh this arc seems to be like it's doubling down on that. Aisa ain't got poo poo on Tama, but the loose parallels are there. I wonder if Elbaf is going to be the Thrillerbark analog. Hopefully Impel Down is just going back and extra super wrecking up the place. This time when Bon Clay tries a heroic sacrifice, Law can just Shambles him to safety.
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Tampa Bae posted:I'm just assuming Garp and Sengoku were trying to be the lesser of two evils because Imu getting moody could wipe out millions of people. Choosing to wipe out thousands in places like God's Valley or Ohara to save millions of people is probably also why Kuzan hedged his bets on Blackbeard because he's willing to do whatever it takes to overthrow gods versus Luffy who is a pretty happy go lucky guy who doesn't want to see anyone die as long as he'd fed I don't really know how Luffy doesn't have 'what it takes' when pretty much the entire story has been Luffy encountering a highly unjust system, going 'this is wrong', and immediately proceeding to tear it down with his bare hands. It's worth noting that Blackbeard has never really shown to be dissatisfied with the current world order, his only real complaint is that he's not at the top. It's a pretty safe bet that he's carrying on the legacy of Rocks to become King of the World, and that's not an abstract concept - we've seen the King of the World, what that position entails, and what it takes to keep that position. If Blackbeard got his way, chances are very little would change, the Empty Throne would just have a new genocidal tyrant sitting on it.
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BB's just a charming guy. Great to hang out with, hard to say no to.
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i am throwing my hat into the theory that the celestial dragons are pets kept by the gorosei so they can farm all the suffering they cause for garmonbozia
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Inadequately posted:I don't really know how Luffy doesn't have 'what it takes' when pretty much the entire story has been Luffy encountering a highly unjust system, going 'this is wrong', and immediately proceeding to tear it down with his bare hands. It's worth noting that Blackbeard has never really shown to be dissatisfied with the current world order, his only real complaint is that he's not at the top. It's a pretty safe bet that he's carrying on the legacy of Rocks to become King of the World, and that's not an abstract concept - we've seen the King of the World, what that position entails, and what it takes to keep that position. If Blackbeard got his way, chances are very little would change, the Empty Throne would just have a new genocidal tyrant sitting on it. Luffy really only does that when they stand in his immediate path and is mostly winging it, while blackbeard seems to know a hell of a lot more than he lets on and has a clear plan. Were probably going to be told in clear terms why kuzan threw in with BB at some point.
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