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ThatBasqueGuy posted:Eneis Lobby is gonna be Maris Jeoise and the toppling of the WG and/or the redline, I can feel it Eagerly awaiting Luffy vs. Niles Crane.
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Tampa Bae posted:Karoo: Parents are ducks 
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Tampa Bae posted:Brook is definitely the oldest but he spent most of his life as a wandering spirit, so has like a hundred year gap in knowledge. As far as functional adults, Robin and Franky are 30 something and Jinbei is like 40? Brook probably died at 40-50 and spent a long time doing nothing Sorry I should have clarified I meant when Brooke 'died' for his age compared to Jinbei.
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Paper Lion posted:i am throwing my hat into the theory that the celestial dragons are pets kept by the gorosei so they can farm all the suffering they cause for garmonbozia Please no. I want One Piece to have an actual ending, not a David Lynch mindfuck. (That's not to say I don't like David Lynch mindfucks. Just not here!)
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I do fear there’s going to be some kind of cop out ending for the CDs that sees them not have to repent/pay for what they’ve done. Like, it’ll be revealed they’re kind controlled by Imu and by beating him it turns the CDs into good guys who can’t REALLY be blamed for they did
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:I do fear there’s going to be some kind of cop out ending for the CDs that sees them not have to repent/pay for what they’ve done. Like, it’ll be revealed they’re kind controlled by Imu and by beating him it turns the CDs into good guys who can’t REALLY be blamed for they did Hard doubt. They literally killed the one CD who repented his ways.
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:I do fear there’s going to be some kind of cop out ending for the CDs that sees them not have to repent/pay for what they’ve done. Like, it’ll be revealed they’re kind controlled by Imu and by beating him it turns the CDs into good guys who can’t REALLY be blamed for they did
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ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:Hard doubt. Yeah between this and the Genocide Game Oda is doing a lot to make them the worst people in the world.
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I think Mjosgard's heroic stand may inspire other CDs to change their ways, given that is just how One Piece works. But yeah I don't think they're getting redeemed or forgiven for free
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considering what happens to villains in OP they most likely won't be slaughtered en masse, but the Baratie will have a LOT more staff soon
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I'm not sure Sakazuki will ever get formally redeemed but he definitely just does not have the juice to be a major villain going forward. He's merely an agent of the machine, he embodies it. He's something that will have to be overcome in some way, but he's already losing the fight, and he's been losing since before he was ever introduced. He's honestly less detestable than a Rob Lucci type because to my recollection he doesn't even really derive pleasure from committing atrocities, they're just necessary to him. He hates pirates, but he has no feelings about the things he has to do to kill them. And in his current position as Fleet Admiral, he feels incredibly stifled and trapped by the crushing weight of bureaucracy. My guess is Blackbeard will end up killing him or something.
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Arist posted:I'm not sure Sakazuki will ever get formally redeemed but he definitely just does not have the juice to be a major villain going forward. He's merely an agent of the machine, he embodies it. He's something that will have to be overcome in some way, but he's already losing the fight, and he's been losing since before he was ever introduced. He's honestly less detestable than a Rob Lucci type because to my recollection he doesn't even really derive pleasure from committing atrocities, they're just necessary to him. He hates pirates, but he has no feelings about the things he has to do to kill them. And in his current position as Fleet Admiral, he feels incredibly stifled and trapped by the crushing weight of bureaucracy. Theres definitely something being cooked up by SWORD. Whether itll be a big anti pirate plan or some plan to change the WG from the inside hasnt been clear yet. Theres gonna be a difference whether a marine just hates pirates and outlaws or hates injustice, and I think in ryogokyu we have an admiral that only believes the former, but akainu is probably both.
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The strawhats won't go around snapping the neck of every cd on screen. but they'll probably get thoughtlessly mulched by imu or something. Better thought: akainu snaps and crisps em
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Farg posted:Better thought: akainu snaps and crisps em  The amoral absolute justice man should definitely melt all their faces and then offer himself up to make up for his failures.
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Oct 17, 2023 18:26
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Sakazuki should punch one of the Elder Stars/Planets
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I would like to see Saint Charlos get the same magma facial that Whitebeard and Kuma received
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Farg posted:The strawhats won't go around snapping the neck of every cd on screen. but they'll probably get thoughtlessly mulched by imu or something. Robin’s gonna personally snap them all at once
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Wii Spawn Camper posted:Robin’s gonna personally snap them all at once Actually I would love if they spend an entire chapter convincing everyone to forgive them because they were mind controlled and people are buying it whole sale, and at the very end just before being forgiven robin gives them all a ride on the bone-grinder clutch carousel.
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just simul-crush all their junk so they're the last generation of dragons
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The Celestial Dragons have the worst possible punishment for rich bastards; being ordinary people who work customer service at the new worldwide food chain, McSabo’s.
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DrakePegasus posted:The Celestial Dragons have the worst possible punishment for rich bastards; being ordinary people who work customer service at the new worldwide food chain, McSabo’s.
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Even if they aren't just chow for the Five Elders, I do think there's a very, very grisly end in store for CD's. They're cattle of some sort, given how little actual influence they seem to have.
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I really hope there's not some ~secret explanation~ for the Celestial Dragons existing. They're just the descendents of former royalty, and the people supporting them simply believe in the social order. They're awful, but that's just how hereditary nobility works, there's no need for some dumb twist.
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Yeah, any reason for their existence ends up justifying the hierarchy
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Arist posted:I'm not sure Sakazuki will ever get formally redeemed but he definitely just does not have the juice to be a major villain going forward. He's merely an agent of the machine, he embodies it. He's something that will have to be overcome in some way, but he's already losing the fight, and he's been losing since before he was ever introduced. He's honestly less detestable than a Rob Lucci type because to my recollection he doesn't even really derive pleasure from committing atrocities, they're just necessary to him. He hates pirates, but he has no feelings about the things he has to do to kill them. And in his current position as Fleet Admiral, he feels incredibly stifled and trapped by the crushing weight of bureaucracy. He's certainly been diminished by his promotion, but having that pivotal moment of the whole story to his name is going to give him narrative weight that can't just be swept aside casually. Even if he's not the final villain like some people were adamant about in years past, he's going to have to have a meaningful encounter with Luffy as part of this story's climax. Or Sabo. If anyone who's not Luffy takes him out it'll be Sabo.
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Sabo might have an altercation with him, maybe. Luffy, I can't really see at this juncture. In a lot of ways, the current state of the world is already Sakazuki's karmic punishment for that moment. e: even if Luffy does fight him I don't think it will be a massive brawl, which is the point I was making anyway
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Sakazuki will probably grudgingly fight to the bitter end for his favourite brand of Justice, and we'll get a heart-rending flashback that culminates at the exact moment that Sabo or Luffy or whoever punches him through the volcano he's made
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Arist posted:I'm not sure Sakazuki will ever get formally redeemed but he definitely just does not have the juice to be a major villain going forward. He's merely an agent of the machine, he embodies it. He's something that will have to be overcome in some way, but he's already losing the fight, and he's been losing since before he was ever introduced. He's honestly less detestable than a Rob Lucci type because to my recollection he doesn't even really derive pleasure from committing atrocities, they're just necessary to him. He hates pirates, but he has no feelings about the things he has to do to kill them. And in his current position as Fleet Admiral, he feels incredibly stifled and trapped by the crushing weight of bureaucracy. don't know if i agree with this. oda's gonna have a backstory for him that makes us understand why he is so dogmatic and it's gonna give a lot of juice to his villainy
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akainus also outrageously strong to the point that idt any non-luffy character is reasonably going to be able to beat him wihtin the story's logic. he went toe to toe with whitebeard and like 10 minutes after getting blasted into a crater he was back and willing to fight all of whitebeard's commanders at once. the guy's definitely top 2 or 3 in the universe, i'd bet he's on par with kaido even
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Rigged Death Trap posted:Theres gonna be a difference whether a marine just hates pirates and outlaws or hates injustice, and I think in ryogokyu we have an admiral that only believes the former, but akainu is probably both. "A scholar might have snuck on board, better massacre these civilians just to be safe" "Deserting or demanding a ceasefire? I sentence you to death, on the spot, by me" - Akainu, famed hater of injustice
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You're thinking about this in terms of shonen power rankings, which I don't think is exactly wrong but I also don't find particularly applicable here. I'm prioritizing the story dynamics, and he just isn't really a presence anymore. He's already had to compromise basically everything that he is. What would fighting him mean now? The Marines are already on the back foot, if Luffy fights him it won't be a big show of dominance and strength, it'll be Sakazuki desperately trying to hold onto what little control the Marines still have. That's not to say we're not going to get a more thorough repudiation or at least explanation of his absolute justice, but I don't think he makes sense as a big arc villain these days.
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Star Platinum posted:"A scholar might have snuck on board, better massacre these civilians just to be safe" famously objective concept, justice
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Begemot posted:I really hope there's not some ~secret explanation~ for the Celestial Dragons existing. They're just the descendents of former royalty, and the people supporting them simply believe in the social order. When they were first introduced they were basically just standard hereditary nobility degenerates. Oda's gone out of his way to make them way worse than that. We're literally starting a story about their triennial genocide games.
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DeadBonesBrook posted:Eagerly awaiting Luffy vs. Niles Crane. Havoc904 posted:From a Frasier group on facebook: Frasier & One Piece, the perfect alignment of my interests
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The fact that we haven't heard about this game until now makes me think that it gets abolished after whatever goes down at God Valley.
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Funky Valentine posted:The fact that we haven't heard about this game until now makes me think that it gets abolished after whatever goes down at God Valley. my theory is that it hasnt been three years since god valley yet
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