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ok how about some optimism: it's so relentlessly rainy and damp in the UK even during the summer that the cedar will never have a chance to really dry out so it just won't warp as much
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VelociBacon posted:Is hardiboard not really a thing in the UK? Everything is hardi here (concrete fibreboard). thats essentially the tile backer board I've put up in the bathrooms
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everdave posted:Will he be making GBS threads in the bushes along the way? I’m glad someone else also had this thought.
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everdave posted:Will he be making GBS threads in the bushes along the way? where else do you poo poo while trick or treating?
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Messadiah posted:where else do you poo poo while trick or treating? I mean I’d like to take a dump in the break room and have some snacks but that’s been taken away
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VelociBacon posted:Is hardiboard not really a thing in the UK? Everything is hardi here (concrete fibreboard). In terms of external finish cladding I've found it very difficult to find. There are cement fibre board cladding panels but they seem to not have much of a retail presence, AFAICT they all sell to the giant apartment building companies. There is a fake cedar board product called cedral, similar to the uPVC fake cladding boards, but still kinda expensive and I'm personally not a fan of things pretending to be other things.
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Jaded Burnout posted:I'm personally not a fan of things pretending to be other things. Same here. I strive for authenticity of materials in my projects
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I get the sentiment but I'd avoid real wood siding if at all possible because it looks very nice but it's a pain in the rear end. I've watched enough This Old House to decide that PVC is the way to go if you get the quality stuff.
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Does PVC siding really even happen in the UK? I know it's everywhere in the States
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Failed Imagineer posted:Does PVC siding really even happen in the UK? I know it's everywhere in the States I'm sure you can buy it but outside of maybe some commercial stuff it isn't common e: actually that's wrong houses of a certain age often look like this:  And it is sometimes used for extensions. But I don't think it's a common first choice, probably because of houses like the above distortion park fucked around with this message at 15:26 on Oct 31, 2023 |
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Fidelitious posted:I get the sentiment but I'd avoid real wood siding if at all possible because it looks very nice but it's a pain in the rear end. I had cedar siding, looked amazing for 2-3 years and it needed stain again. I have enough poo poo to do. I do miss the look of the cedar. It looks a lot more house like with the plaster up.
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Fidelitious posted:I get the sentiment but I'd avoid real wood siding if at all possible because it looks very nice but it's a pain in the rear end. I'd consider it more if it wasn't also fairly expensive. Failed Imagineer posted:Does PVC siding really even happen in the UK? I know it's everywhere in the States Uncommon but readily available.
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my house has plastic siding but you need a power washer or it gets manky pretty quickly we dont have a power washer 
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I see claims that the best modern paints will last 16 years before you have to scrape and repaint your house, but of course those are fully opaque paints that leaves the wood looking far less ... woody than a stain.
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I think I'm looking at about 700 quid for all the oil and and fire protection stuff that half the boards need (<1 metre from boundary). And that lasts two years.
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Just cover them with some stolen lead.
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Yeah so after like 10 years might as well just have gold plated the whole thing
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Paint the lead to look like wood.
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Lime wash. Very traditional.
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As long as you don’t barbecue next to it then you should be ok
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Wattle and daub with the materials at hand.
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Wrap the house in foil
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https://www.jameshardie.co.uk/en/cladding/hardieplank
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You can't get that actually looking like a wood though, only in blank colours. Plus it's twice the price of the cedar I got.
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So basically it looks like painted cedar, and costs what it'd cost for cedar if you painted it regularly and probably cheaper once you consider the lifespan. I get it, I love the natural look of wood, I just know what the natural look of cedar turns into after just a few years and it's not that great.  Blah grey anyway probably it's too late to change your mind now anyway right, so I'll try to stop being an rear end about it
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Computer viking posted:I see claims that the best modern paints will last 16 years before you have to scrape and repaint your house, but of course those are fully opaque paints that leaves the wood looking far less ... woody than a stain. Might be a bit optimistic. The stuff we used to use to paint hardwood windows/doors/conservatories - proper expensive stuff from a Scandinavian company (so, good in harsh winters etc.) would last about 7-10 years, if it was white. Less if it was some darker colour and like, 1 year if it was black or dark grey. Mind you, after those 1-10 years, you'd typically only need to key the surface (light sand) and put a new topcoat on.
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The 16 year stuff only came out a couple of years ago, so it obviously hasn't had 16 years of testing on random houses yet - but one would hope it adds another couple of years to those 7-10. (Sorry for the moon language, I couldn't find anything about it in English.)
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I dunno what paint my parents used on their house but it's older than 20 years and looks fine (red). Our paint is 10 years and still looks fine.
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Painting masonry and painting timber cladding is not even remotely comparable
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Though I am jumping to the conclusion that your parents house isn't timber clad
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Leperflesh posted:So basically it looks like painted cedar, and costs what it'd cost for cedar if you painted it regularly and probably cheaper once you consider the lifespan. Aged wood like this looks good actually, and if you treat it properly like with a mixture of tar, turpentine and varnish* it'll look even better and the treatment will last for a decade. * link's in Finnish, but this is what we used for our log cabin in Lapland and it looks great
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distortion park posted:Here's a fun photo of a local building that was almost entirely demolished before being extended with three different wall materials on display. I can only assume they kept that one wall as a workaround to planning rules. A common non-UK method of construction is concrete frame and infill, usually with those interlocking terracotta blocks that get rendered. Looks like that's what's going on here? All the sites get a dinky tower crane to lift the concrete for the upper floor concrete pours. I've no idea why it's not taken off in the UK cause it's quick, cheap and only really has drawbacks in seismic risk areas where it folds neatly flat. Possibly because you need a crane and other significant plant, whereas brick and block can be done with nothing more than scaffolding and swearing. Our ship-lapped larch cladding has gone a bit shoogly woogly over the two years it's been up and we haven't treated it. I should go round and bash all the nails back flush again where they've started to lift out. Other than that, it's good.
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Salisbury Snape posted:Though I am jumping to the conclusion that your parents house isn't timber clad No it's a wood house alright. Photo, the garage building to the right was repaneled and repainted recently. The red on the main house should be like 20 years or so by now.
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His Divine Shadow posted:No it's a wood house alright. Photo, the garage building to the right was repaneled and repainted recently. The red on the main house should be like 20 years or so by now. Imgur is weird - that link only works if I copy/paste it. Cute house, though.
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His Divine Shadow posted:No it's a wood house alright. Photo, the garage building to the right was repaneled and repainted recently. The red on the main house should be like 20 years or so by now. I can't decide whether I'm the space elevator comms tower at the front or the roof bbq at the back.
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You might be shocked to know this is the rear of the house 
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Hobbies, Crafts, & Houses > Towards L shape architecture: Just use Aluminum Composite Material cladding, it’s very cheap now
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Bought this stuff off eBay from a guy called Glen F. Offcuts
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just bulk up on costco ceranwrap and wrap the house. it'll help meet the energy efficiency goals too!
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why is most of the world so opposed to the king of cladding options, vertical profile corrugated steel cladding? pissing around repainting your weatherboards every 10 years, who has the time
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