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loud, obnoxious, dumb movie Hereditary
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Nov 9, 2023 04:46
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All of this is correct
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Nov 9, 2023 04:56
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Beau is Afraid was too short
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Nov 9, 2023 05:08
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i want longer movies with worse cinemascore ratings made by ari aster who is paid more to make sense less and i'm not kidding
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Nov 9, 2023 05:15
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i wish i could make that popping noise with my tongue
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Nov 9, 2023 05:42
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Man, some people just don't get some movies establish characters as dumb, unaware and irresponsible and immediately start calling it "plot holes and lazy writing!". It's clear early on in the movie that the teenage son in Hereditary is a total immature shithead and the movie establishes that by having him just be careless with regards to his sister. Then when poo poo goes down he panics and people do dumb things when they panic. And, yeah, you cause the death of a family member in the manner he did no poo poo your brain is going to shut down...it's called a traumatic response OK, I'll stop I got fired up again.
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Nov 9, 2023 07:54
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Gyro Zeppeli posted:Hey, didn't stop that weird remake! If they tried to do it without her, i'm convinced she'd murder the whole studio
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Nov 9, 2023 08:36
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Wow Divinity wasn't very good. Like bargain bin Panos Cosmatos. Some fun stop motion tho.
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Nov 9, 2023 08:59
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Every season of chucky I’m more worried about Tiffany dying because Tilly is the mvp of the whole show
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Nov 9, 2023 09:01
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I really hope they actually commit to Chucky dying this season and Don makes the final movie just everyone going to his funeral... It would be amazing. Andy, Kyle, and the kids all there. Tiffany and Nica causing some sort of scene through their cycle of obsession and violence...
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Nov 9, 2023 09:22
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I hope Megan kills Chucky. gently caress you boomer.
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Nov 9, 2023 10:38
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Justin Godscock posted:Man, some people just don't get some movies establish characters as dumb, unaware and irresponsible and immediately start calling it "plot holes and lazy writing!". It's on the same tangent of the main characters aren't always likeable, relatable, or the 'good guys', and some get shocked when a main character is such an rear end in a top hat you'd avoid that type of person in reality. Speaking as someone who's sat through way more than my share of legitimate lazy writing and plot holes that anyone with at least two brain cells can see, Hereditary is absolutely none of that. It says more about the google reviewer that 1) They hate horror films and hate that their mom watches horror, so why are they still sitting through horror films they don't like other than to whine about it online for attention. 2) Being they cite comedies are better skips the point they made about Coraline. Clearly the bleaker end of horror isn't their thing by any stretch yet they do like dark fantasy which does share some elements with horror, which isn't that different than not all comedies work for everyone. To use me for example, Napoleon Dynamite did absolutely nothing for me, but others found it hysterically funny along with some 70s/80s era comedies still crack me up but others can't see the funny even if it was pointed out in a powerpoint presentation.
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Nov 9, 2023 11:47
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CelticPredator posted:i knew someone itt thread wrote it lol I like Hereditary, to be clear, but I actually think some of those are weirdly cogent criticisms for a reviewer who clearly doesn’t
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Nov 9, 2023 17:07
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Crescent Wrench posted:I'm just sad that "YOU SHOULD KNOW THAT YOUR LITTLE SISTER HAD A NUT ALLERGY. WHY WOULD YOU TELL HER TO GO EAT A CAKE?!" is probably too long for a thread title. Be Paiman, eat nut cake and die.
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Nov 9, 2023 17:53
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Pretzel Rod Serling posted:lol I like Hereditary, to be clear, but I actually think some of those are weirdly cogent criticisms for a reviewer who clearly doesn’t I don’t think it is because those complaints are the complaints of someone who just hates storytelling
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Nov 9, 2023 20:03
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Fair! I guess I just mean the contrivances never really hung together for me. Not enough to call it a bad movie or poorly done or whatever, because it’s not and isn’t, but I do think it’s a lot dumber than people give it credit for and it’s not built in such a way for the intricate coincidences the scenario requires to feel justifiably the work of the cult. I’m generally an Asterdisliker tho, despite four-starring ol’ Hered on Letterboxd, so obviously other’s mileage may vary
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Nov 9, 2023 20:14
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The family is deeply detached and broken from each other. None of them communicate properly and this leads to their downfall. Peter lies that he’s going to some school thing instead of a party, mom forces Charlie on him, he just sends her off to do whatever because he doesn’t care. Then it leads to her death where he just once again, says nothing and doesn’t communicate leading to more anger and resentment
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Nov 9, 2023 20:17
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Being literal about Hereditary feels like the dullest way to experience Hereditary. For me it's all about that sweet sweet emotion and symbolism And sometimes spooky ghosts 
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Nov 9, 2023 20:25
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Also even if the family dynamics seem heightened or stupid, imo they're pretty relatable in the same way that like...Mommy Dearest is cartoonish and insane but relatable.
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Nov 9, 2023 20:26
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Erin M. Fiasco posted:Being literal about Hereditary feels like the dullest way to experience Hereditary. For me it's all about that sweet sweet emotion and symbolism It depends on the degree of how literal one goes. Go literal enough and one can shred the hell out of any rom-com, romance or the like. I went in watching Hereditary taking things at face value and it was compelling enough to pull me in on the underlying mystery and the demonology lore.
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Nov 9, 2023 20:51
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Snooze Cruise posted:I really hope they actually commit to Chucky dying this season and Don makes the final movie just everyone going to his funeral... It would be amazing. Andy, Kyle, and the kids all there. Tiffany and Nica causing some sort of scene through their cycle of obsession and violence... Have Chucky finally die, but then have Caroline learn the body swap spell and have her take over a Good Guy doll and become the "new" Chucky. Make everyone in the audience freak out about it being the series' Friday the 13th Part 5, but it doesn't matter because we just refocus on it being The Tiffany Show anyway.
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Nov 9, 2023 21:32
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M_Sinistrari posted:It depends on the degree of how literal one goes. Go literal enough and one can shred the hell out of any rom-com, romance or the like. I went in watching Hereditary taking things at face value and it was compelling enough to pull me in on the underlying mystery and the demonology lore. To enjoy it you just have to accept the slightly heightened world it's set in. It's not realistic for the cult to plan everything down to such detail, but there's a sense that the family is doomed to their fate regardless of the specifics. It's inevitable one way or another, and that's where part of the horror comes in. I can see why some people would hate that though, and that's fair. Criticising Peter's reaction to the inciting accident is silly though, shutting off communication like that is a very realistic response to trauma.
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Nov 9, 2023 21:51
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On rewatching Hereditary for October, I was trying to piece together all of the mechanics and magical little pushes that Paiman / Paiman's followers does throughout. The detail that there's a Piaman symbol on the electrical pole where Charlie gets killed is fun to spot but makes it confusing as to how much control is being exerted. So Paiman would have to control Charlie eating the cake that was prepared next to the nuts, and control the thing that runs in front of Peter's car as Charlie's choking, and then would have to somehow know Peter would swerve right to avoid it, making Charlie collide with the pole. Thinking about that kinda poked holes in the movie's control and how much care is put into everything working out. Still a great movie. I loved it even more on rewatch, cuz I could just sit back and enjoy it without the stress of the first time viewing. I hadn't seen it since the original theatrical run. Weird Sandwich posted:Criticising Peter's reaction to the inciting accident is silly though, shutting off communication like that is a very realistic response to trauma. He smoked a bunch of weed like 5 minutes before the inciting incident. He's a teenager. I found his traumatic response believable.
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Nov 9, 2023 22:15
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demon magic is like the force it wills the story to its needs
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Nov 9, 2023 22:20
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CelticPredator posted:demon magic is like the force Overall, I agree. It's a detail that you really only get on rewatch and is easy to miss even then. It's not a big deal, but it does crumble on scrutiny. It's like the air tanks exploding in JAWS. The movie's good enough that you don't care, and the results are spectacular for an audience.
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Nov 9, 2023 22:27
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I took it to be more that the cult is like "this event will happen at this location" and then a sequence of preceding events just naturally falls into place to make it so as opposed to each individual action being pre-planned.
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Nov 9, 2023 22:29
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Yeah exactly. Honestly the more I watch movies and hear people complain about logic and stuff the more I appreciate when a film can just barrel through logic and keep you in love. Because there's more going on than just the logic of it. JJ Abrams is really good at this, but his work doesnt really lend itself to rewatches or thinking back on it because when it's over, there isn't anything left so you just get confused.
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Nov 9, 2023 22:29
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CelticPredator posted:Yeah exactly. Honestly the more I watch movies and hear people complain about logic and stuff the more I appreciate when a film can just barrel through logic and keep you in love. Because there's more going on than just the logic of it. I think it's a balancing act. A movie doesn't have to be grounded, but the more work you put into making the script and story mechanically sound where all the pieces fit together with internal logic, then you have more leeway with stretching the logic or breaking the rules here and there. Or it allows you to make a point by breaking the rules.
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Nov 9, 2023 22:37
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Magic Hate Ball posted:I took it to be more that the cult is like "this event will happen at this location" and then a sequence of preceding events just naturally falls into place to make it so as opposed to each individual action being pre-planned. That's how I took it. Hereditary has a nightmarish feel to it and this kind of vague magical predetermination just adds to it. You just can't figure it out or stop it, it's just rolling over you.
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Nov 9, 2023 22:39
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Justin Godscock posted:Man, some people just don't get some movies establish characters as dumb, unaware and irresponsible and immediately start calling it "plot holes and lazy writing!". That guy made the mistake but the real issue with Hereditary is the illogical leaps for anything to happen at all. A mom orders her teenage son to take her younger daughter to a kegger?? The kid has a nut allergy and eats nuts?? I've met 5 year olds that have a firmer grasp about their nut allergy. Who the gently caress makes a walnut cake at a high school party? The movie should have stopped right there. NOBODY MAKES A WALNUT CAKE AT A HIGH SCHOOL PARTY. I WOULD HAVE PUT THE MIXING BOWL DOWN AND BEEN LIKE WOAH WHY ARE WE MAKING A CAKE ANYONE ELSE FEEL CULT INFLUENCES gently caress man let me criticize this poo poo rear end movie it sucked so hard. Ari Aster was given a 10 mil budget after a 15 minute youtube short and panicked getting characters from point a to point b.
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Nov 9, 2023 22:40
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God drat to even make the head popping off make sense they had to stick the Charlie dummy halfway out the window to where her shins would be the only torque keeping her in the car as it somehow avoids the side mirror to perfectly hit the side of the pole god drat it
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Nov 9, 2023 22:41
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Doltos posted:That guy made the mistake but the real issue with Hereditary is the illogical leaps for anything to happen at all. The mom thinks it's a school function. He never admits it's a house party. Charlie doesn't eat nuts, she eats cake that was prepared next to nuts. The cake was already prepared when they're chopping up nuts for I guess another cake. And people getting drunk and making quick desserts is definitely something I experienced in high school and college parties.
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Nov 9, 2023 22:44
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https://cdn-cf-east.streamable.com/...EYUVEN4EVB2OKEQ
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Nov 9, 2023 22:45
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Doltos posted:God drat to even make the head popping off make sense they had to stick the Charlie dummy halfway out the window to where her shins would be the only torque keeping her in the car as it somehow avoids the side mirror to perfectly hit the side of the pole god drat it *ding*
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Nov 9, 2023 22:48
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Franchescanado posted:The mom thinks it's a school function. He never admits it's a house party. Charlie doesn't eat nuts, she eats cake that was prepared next to nuts. The cake was already prepared when they're chopping up nuts for I guess another cake. And people getting drunk and making quick desserts is definitely something I experienced in high school and college parties. Gotta love “illogical plot holes” that are solved with paying a minimum amount of attention to the film
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Nov 9, 2023 22:50
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The mom being incredibly too stupid to figure out that the kid is going to a party is one thing. Blame it on grief, fine. If you legitimately went to a high school party where they're chopping that many nuts. Get the gently caress out of here.
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Nov 9, 2023 22:51
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Logic is for the weak.
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Nov 9, 2023 22:54
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what happens when you watch a david lynch movie
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Nov 9, 2023 22:57
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Doltos posted:The mom being incredibly too stupid to figure out that the kid is going to a party is one thing. Blame it on grief, fine. *ding*
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Nov 9, 2023 22:57
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