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Fair Bear Maiden
Jun 17, 2013

Fabricated posted:

So did Kenjaku sort of hijack Takaba's phenomenon generation?

Sort of, but not really. Ultimately Kenjaku can contribute to it but not really "take over" and he takes damage unlike Takaba.

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Scholtz
Aug 24, 2007

Zorchin' some Flemoids

"Just gotta make it so that him dying would be the funniest thing ever" is the strat on both ends

Char
Jan 5, 2013

Fabricated posted:

So did Kenjaku sort of hijack Takaba's phenomenon generation?

It's kinda hijackable by design, Takaba wants a good comedy partner and the power allows for those being under its influence to take part in his fantasy.
Kenjaku is versed in comedy so he can fight back, otherwise he'd be stuck in endless slapstick comedy getting pies in the face. According to him, though, Takaba is taking no damage despite whatever's going on, while he's not awarded this luxury.
I dread the conclusion too: I wouldn't be surprised if his technique stopped working once he feels the connection.

Char fucked around with this message at 20:47 on Nov 17, 2023

Scallop Eyes
Oct 16, 2021
Kenjaku getting owned by sketch comedy is loving amazing, but no surprise that the finale has to be in a manzai situation.

usenet celeb 1992
Jun 1, 2000

he thought quoting borges would make him popular
I'm not sure about this because surely Kenjaku would have mentioned it were it the case, but is this also a sort of open domain, basically? It's still not clear how much is illusion, but at the very least the ability to inflict (and avoid/deflect) real damage means a certain level of interference with reality.

It's also operating kind of similarly to Judgeman and the pachinko domain, in that those also allow an opponent to engage with the domain under its own set of rules, to some extent.

Lamebot
Sep 8, 2005

ロボ顔菌~♡

Scholtz posted:

"Just gotta make it so that him dying would be the funniest thing ever" is the strat on both ends

I think Kenjaku has a golden ticket to cutting through the bullshit and starting the Tengen merger early if he can get a hang of this incredibly hax technique he's being allowed to take part in.

PringleCreamEgg
Jul 2, 2004

Sleep, rest, do your best.
I don’t laugh out loud at manga too often but this chapter had me cackling. This fight is somehow the best this series has ever been.

Gologle
Apr 15, 2013

The Gologle Posting Experience.

<3
Correct me if I'm wrong, but Kenjaku has a clear path to victory here, right? If this is all a comedy set, then all he has to do is conclude it.

usenet celeb 1992
Jun 1, 2000

he thought quoting borges would make him popular
We don't know enough to say whether that wouldn't just allow Takaba to start the cycle over again. Takaba has as good as said that his win condition is to get Kenjaku to basically laugh helplessly. Kenjaku not only has to end it, he has to maybe break Takaba's spirit. We'll see I guess.

I R SMART LIKE ROCK
Mar 10, 2003

I just want a hug.

Fun Shoe
yeah but what happens if Takaba gets his wincon here. does Kenjaku explode or get a standing ovation at the end?

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you
I don’t think he would die, Takaba doesn’t find people dying funny.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

He turns into a brain in a jar, which is an inherently hilarious concept.

I R SMART LIKE ROCK
Mar 10, 2003

I just want a hug.

Fun Shoe

ImpAtom posted:

He turns into a brain in a jar, which is an inherently hilarious concept.

hey I watched this show called "Futurama" once. those heads in jars were always a laugh

stuker
Jul 9, 2003

the power of their comedic rapport will conclude in a fusion dance, then i'm not sure what happens but i'm fine with whatever it is

yum
Oct 27, 2005

Only good things will come
to someone like
you.
Kenjaku can connect with others pretty well with the right person. A modern sorcerer like Takaba was probably the last person he expected to be compatible with. He was likely expecting to find something more in common with Hiruguma lol

Valentin
Sep 16, 2012

i haven't read the chapter. takaba should become evil through the power of friendship. this will mean he is present at a grand final melee feat. him, kenjaku, and sukuna versus all. this will enable sukuna's defeat when he is unable to master comedic combat because he cannot and does not care to comprehend others. kenjaku then turns good through the power of friendship and manzai comedy.

Valentin fucked around with this message at 08:43 on Nov 18, 2023

I R SMART LIKE ROCK
Mar 10, 2003

I just want a hug.

Fun Shoe

Valentin posted:

i haven't read the chapter. takaba should become evil through the power of friendship. this will mean he is present at a grand final melee feat. him, kenjaku, and sukuna versus all. this will enable sukuna's defeat when he is unable to master comedic combat because he cannot and does not care to comprehend others. kenjaku then turns good through the power of friendship and manzai comedy.

wait there's a universe where this manga gets to the final bout and both Sukuna and Kenjaku are alive? that's the most implausible part of this

stuker
Jul 9, 2003

gege did make that part a lot easier when megumi and sukuna became the same person, to be fair

LuiCypher
Apr 24, 2010

Today I'm... amped up!

Man, it's kind of hilarious to go to Japan and see the fandom here. In the US, everyone seems to think this is a shonen anime. But in Japan, they know The Truth. And The Truth is amazing and I honestly think it's really cool.

(It's Secret Shoujo, kinda like how Gundam Wing was except on steroids. You can try to fight me on this point, but the lines full of women for the collab cafes across Japan, the collab cafes having nothing but women inside them, the middle-aged women toting Itadori-branded reusable bags, the bookcases of BL manga devoted to the series, the fact that said BL manga is almost always located at the front of the store for ease of access/general popularity, the hordes of women picking up BL manga related to the series, etc. beg to differ. Hilariously, I saw no Japanese men consuming anything JJK-related and the only guys I saw with JJK-branded merch were foreigners. It's still insanely popular here though and you see it everywhere, it's just that women are the ones most visibly consuming it. The Kaigyoku/Gyokusetsu arc was definitely the rugpull for this.)

ThatBasqueGuy
Feb 14, 2013

someone introduce jojo to lazyb


LuiCypher posted:

Man, it's kind of hilarious to go to Japan and see the fandom here. In the US, everyone seems to think this is a shonen anime. But in Japan, they know The Truth. And The Truth is amazing and I honestly think it's really cool.

(It's Secret Shoujo, kinda like how Gundam Wing was except on steroids. You can try to fight me on this point, but the lines full of women for the collab cafes across Japan, the collab cafes having nothing but women inside them, the middle-aged women toting Itadori-branded reusable bags, the bookcases of BL manga devoted to the series, the fact that said BL manga is almost always located at the front of the store for ease of access/general popularity, the hordes of women picking up BL manga related to the series, etc. beg to differ. Hilariously, I saw no Japanese men consuming anything JJK-related and the only guys I saw with JJK-branded merch were foreigners. It's still insanely popular here though and you see it everywhere, it's just that women are the ones most visibly consuming it. The Kaigyoku/Gyokusetsu arc was definitely the rugpull for this.)

:sickos:

Conspiratiorist
Nov 12, 2015

17th Separate Kryvyi Rih Tank Brigade named after Konstantin Pestushko
Look to my coming on the first light of the fifth sixth some day
US weebs are a weird bunch. LATAM has a better grasp on what anime is all about :

https://twitter.com/cheneichi/status/1710014454765625483


Electric Phantasm
Apr 7, 2011

YOSPOS

Is KSKSKSKSKS the LATAM lol?

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream

LuiCypher posted:

Man, it's kind of hilarious to go to Japan and see the fandom here. In the US, everyone seems to think this is a shonen anime. But in Japan, they know The Truth. And The Truth is amazing and I honestly think it's really cool.

(It's Secret Shoujo, kinda like how Gundam Wing was except on steroids. You can try to fight me on this point, but the lines full of women for the collab cafes across Japan, the collab cafes having nothing but women inside them, the middle-aged women toting Itadori-branded reusable bags, the bookcases of BL manga devoted to the series, the fact that said BL manga is almost always located at the front of the store for ease of access/general popularity, the hordes of women picking up BL manga related to the series, etc. beg to differ. Hilariously, I saw no Japanese men consuming anything JJK-related and the only guys I saw with JJK-branded merch were foreigners. It's still insanely popular here though and you see it everywhere, it's just that women are the ones most visibly consuming it. The Kaigyoku/Gyokusetsu arc was definitely the rugpull for this.)
This is also kinda MHA now

Fair Bear Maiden
Jun 17, 2013
It's a shonen because it's published in a shonen book. Outside of that, the audience will always be what it is, and it's not really weird at all for one of these to have a huge female fanbase that is equally, and sometimes more, interested in the character relationships compared to the fights.

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream
Mashle also has a majority female fanbase I believe.

usenet celeb 1992
Jun 1, 2000

he thought quoting borges would make him popular
Can't always pick winners I guess

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



Fabricated posted:

Mashle also has a majority female fanbase I believe.

Mashle's majority. JJK is, from what I can find on streaming viewer numbers, a more even split. Similar to Wing or Otsumatsu, it seems, where you get similar numbers of guys and girls as fans, but the female fans are much more... Enthusiastic.

Funny thing? Attack on Titan is a shonen, as are most of the spin offs... But the Levi backstory is shojo. So the same anime has both shonen and shojo episodes if you count the OVAs

chiasaur11 fucked around with this message at 23:37 on Nov 18, 2023

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

The gals love shonen much like how the guys love shoujo.

Collapsing Farts
Jun 29, 2018

💀
I don't know what you guys are talking about, and that is comforting

UnderFreddy
Oct 9, 2012

GEGENPOSTING

i can't believe the women love a manga with hot guys being hot while doing cool stuff.

gojo and geto are extreme shojo bait

UnderFreddy fucked around with this message at 09:06 on Nov 19, 2023

yum
Oct 27, 2005

Only good things will come
to someone like
you.
women be shipping

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Collapsing Farts posted:

I don't know what you guys are talking about, and that is comforting

People be horny

wedgie deliverer
Oct 2, 2010

It's illegal to be horny for an anime, that's why I voted for Joe Biden

GreenMetalSun
Oct 12, 2012

UnderFreddy posted:

i can't believe the women love a manga with hot guys being hot while doing cool stuff.

gojo and geto are extreme shojo bait

I mean, there's also a thing where women are overwhelmingly the creators of fanart/fan content/fanfic.

Lots of shows are going to have a relatively equal split with the fan content community being absolutely dominated by women. Like Gojo is, by Geto.

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)
Men create a lot of "fan content" as well, as seen by rule34

Fabricated
Apr 9, 2007

Living the Dream
Geto and Gojo literally have a high school break up out in front of a KFC

Ghosthotel
Dec 27, 2008


Yeah this is peak right now.


A few chapters ago we saw some of the crew discussing Takaba and the importance of him not knowing how his power actually works and I'm wondering if we're gonna see them pop in at any point. The vibe I got from that discussion was that he is a really useful trump card they need to keep alive.

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money

Zzulu posted:

Men create a lot of "fan content" as well, as seen by rule34

This is exactly why it's always weird to see people make a big deal about how women like series with hot dudes or shipping anime boys or whatever. Because like, you can't google half of the characters in existence without getting porn of them some dude drew and posted to reddit anymore.

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

Don't you get it, its so weird for women to be liking a fightin manga. Just such a wacky concept.

It'd be like ladies being into Dragonball Z, and that's unheard of!

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Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

I've seen three different people with tattoos of Mikasa and they've all been women. Inspired two of them to become gym enthusiasts, even.

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