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Casey Finnigan posted:so what is the story behind the diaper mudkip avatar I've been curious someone gave it to me because I made fun of someone complaining about their avatar and wanting a mod to change it and I guess they assumed I would get mad at this one and want to change it
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Jrbg posted:Creating an alter ego to drive mel insane: too long for a thread title
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I’ve seen some tremendous bursts of fury when I suggested to people that they could benefit from expanding the pool of books they read from outside flavor of the month bestsellers. “You can’t go around telling people they’re wrong to do what they enjoy. What is wrong with you?”
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"let people enjoy things" is the mark of the hollow soul
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Heath posted:"let people enjoy things" is the mark of the hollow soul "let people enjoy things" always bothered me. I have enjoyed plenty of things that suck, I just dont get super mad when people tell me they suck.
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Nov 21, 2023 02:27
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Mel Mudkiper posted:"let people enjoy things" always bothered me. If someone can’t enjoy something because it was subjected to criticism they are a weakling unworthy of pleasure
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big sign of mental weakness if you can't hear a criticism of a thing you enjoy and then laugh at the critics for being morons with no taste who have a childe's understanding of morality e:fb
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Mel Mudkiper posted:"let people enjoy things" always bothered me. It's almost always on behalf of someone else The phrase isn't "let me enjoy things" because that would imply some kind of actual response to something you like being criticized and it doesn't allow you to take that kind of grandstanding moral principle-defending posture that "let people enjoy things" does So when you can leap into a random thread or Twitter post or something because someone criticized a thing you like it allows you to deflect onto the abstract notion of "other people" and not actually have to face any criticism yourself and you get the satisfaction of defending "people"
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Nov 21, 2023 02:40
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Mel Mudkiper posted:"let people enjoy things" always bothered me. Otoh they might be trying to say, politely, "gently caress off you judgemental snob who asked for your opinion anyway". Nobody likes being proselytized to, even if it's to save their immoral soul from eternity in hell fire. But honestly what kind of intellectual engagement were you expecting from that resume? (PS you need Jesus)
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Bilirubin posted:Otoh they might be trying to say, politely, "gently caress off you judgemental snob who asked for your opinion anyway". Nobody likes being proselytized to, even if it's to save their immoral soul from eternity in hell fire. you're a mod afaiac you are barely human
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dont you have better things to do like ban someone for accidentally using an 18th century slur that offended someone with seven gang tags
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I enjoy all kinds of genre fiction, both trash and not-really-trash-but-still-not-literary-fiction, and I think important lessons in the human experience, the way we interact with each other, our wider societies, our environment, and our internal selves can be taken from trash media. I also think that plenty of very intelligent people put all their efforts into media that I think of as trash (probably including Warhammer, but I've never had even a little bit of an interest in it so I can't really say for certain). That said, yeah, if they're dismissing Marquez because "who cares about ice?" and using Hillbilly Elegy as an example of high-falutin' adult books, then these are probably not the brightest people you're dealing with and you may be wasting your time trying to get them to engage intellectually.
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Nov 21, 2023 03:19
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Look at this gollumpus
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Mel Mudkiper posted:dont you have better things to do like ban someone for accidentally using an 18th century slur that offended someone with seven gang tags Lol this seems oddly specific
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stereobreadsticks posted:I enjoy all kinds of genre fiction, both trash and not-really-trash-but-still-not-literary-fiction, and I think important lessons in the human experience, the way we interact with each other, our wider societies, our environment, and our internal selves can be taken from trash media. I also think that plenty of very intelligent people put all their efforts into media that I think of as trash (probably including Warhammer, but I've never had even a little bit of an interest in it so I can't really say for certain). That said, yeah, if they're dismissing Marquez because "who cares about ice?" and using Hillbilly Elegy as an example of high-falutin' adult books, then these are probably not the brightest people you're dealing with and you may be wasting your time trying to get them to engage intellectually. did I mention the part where they said they thought the holocaust was invented for an isekai book they read until they they were in high school
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Bilirubin posted:Lol this seems oddly specific a hit dog hollers
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read Švejk and then read Pišt'anek's Rivers of Babylon as another cool book that's kinda similar
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I don't read works with Diacritical marks in the title, they frighten me.
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recently I read a book Sergio Pitol's essays and the chapter on the scatological humour in Švejk was longer than the one on Chekhov's stories
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not a lot of jokes about people making GBS threads themselves in chekhov tbf
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I've never poo poo myself, only poo.
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I am somewhat intrigued by the argument that the novel as a form is inimical to tragedy, though I hesitate to wholly embrace it.Terry Eagleton posted:A tragic theatre bound up with the despotic absolutism, courtly intrigue, traditional feuds, rigid laws of kinship, codes of honour, cosmic-world-views and faith in destiny gives way to the more rational, hopeful, realist, pragmatic ideologies of the middle class. What rules now is less fate than human agency … The public realm of tragedy, with its high-pitched rhetoric and fateful economy, is abandoned for the privately consumed, more expansive, ironic, everyday language of prose fiction. And this … is certainly a loss: some critics, as Henri Peyre suggests, blame the death of tragedy on the novel, which “captured the essentials of tragic emotion, while diluting and often cheapening it.”
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Sunset found her squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up she was making GBS threads brown water. The more she drank, the more she shat, but the more she shat, the thirstier she grew, and her thirst sent her crawling to the stream to suck up more water. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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FPyat posted:I am somewhat intrigued by the argument that the novel as a form is inimical to tragedy, though I hesitate to wholly embrace it. I would say Against the Day and Gravity's Rainbow are both works that manage to fuse the epic and the tragic. I'd need more context to fully appreciate his position, but both works manage to use the small scale characters to show the disintegration of human society and the transcension of that chaos relying on the disconnection with system. I would think a scholar 300 years in the future would have a harder time distinguishing between GR and The Odyssey then one in modernity would assume.
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It's from his book Sweet Violence, which I am now interested in reading after seeing it quoted. I did indeed find the quote within a post by Adam Roberts built around the thought that a novel might have to craft an entire society in decline and fall to express the tragic mode. https://medium.com/adams-notebook/some-dystopian-thoughts-454fa9665cb3 FPyat fucked around with this message at 09:58 on Nov 21, 2023 |
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Tragedy always feels to me like such a slippery term, especially since it’s more modern, vastly more prevalent usage to mean “any story with a sad ending” is at least as legitimate now as the old-school technical definition - which I don’t think I’ve ever fully understood anyway. Maybe if I was better read in the Ancient Greeks… Eagleton seems to be saying that tragedy necessarily: -is heavily based in feudal or aristocratic social structures -requires some kind of spiritual or “supernatural” understanding of the world and human affairs -is publicly consumed by a large audience -communicates in an elevated/unnatural/“poetic” way as opposed to what we’d think of as “realism” Is that fair enough? (And by those criteria does Avengers: Endgame qualify???) Without any further context, I wonder about those unnamed critics he quotes indirectly via Henry Peyre. If “real” tragedy is so bound up in despotism and courtly intrigues, could it be just snobbishness to suggest that the middle-class version “cheapens” it..?
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Theatre? For the masses? This Shakespeare fellow is cheapening the finer arts! Novels? For the masses? These printing presses are cheapening the finer arts!
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Lobster Henry posted:It’s not as good as ice-nine we're up to ice 19 i think. also there are amorphous ices and a theoretical scenario in which ice becomes a metal. none of them do the vonnegut thing yet though
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Half-wit posted:Theatre? For the masses? This Shakespeare fellow is cheapening the finer arts! unfortunately this is the first time that any variation of the bulletproof argument “people only claim to prefer books that aren’t lovely because they are out of touch elitists who protest too much about their dislike of proletarian pleasures, and, plus, isn’t it good that people are at least reading something” has been presented in the 651 pages of this thread. apologies to the posters itt who have not already prepared themselves mentally for this eventuality and so i assume will succumb immediately to crises of personal identity that will result in madness or death
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Half-wit posted:Theatre? For the masses? This Shakespeare fellow is cheapening the finer arts! famous inventor of popular theater William Shakespeare
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Tree Goat posted:. apologies to the posters itt who have not already prepared themselves mentally for this eventuality and so i assume will succumb immediately to crises of personal identity that will result in madness or death That's my secret I am always succumbing
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ulvir posted:Sunset found her squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up she was making GBS threads brown water. The more she drank, the more she shat, but the more she shat, the thirstier she grew, and her thirst sent her crawling to the stream to suck up more water. I rest my case
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wb Mel
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Mel Mudkiper posted:famous inventor of popular theater William Shakespeare Not to mention that unpopular theatre is only unpopular because it sucks.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:That's my secret I am always succumbing a little periodic succumbing to madness and crises of identity can be good for the soul. like a brisk walk along the sea shore
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thehoodie posted:Help I can't stop buying poetry. This time it is Antipoems: New and Selected by Nicanor Parra Here's a good one I read Nicanor Parra, Memories Of Youth posted:All I'm sure of is that I kept going back and forth,
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I read The Cantos and now I never want to see a piece of poetry again
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Gaius Marius posted:I read The Cantos and now I never want to see a piece of poetry again Read A by Louis Zukofsky
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This loving book is so bad it is spiritually toxic. I am experiencing harm
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