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hatty posted:Monkey D. Flated Luffy finally meets his ultimate opponent: Tom Brady
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# ? Nov 23, 2023 20:45 |
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oddium posted:he's the minister of science and defense Buy why is the minister of science and defense the one hearing about an escaped slave, or the one confronting Kuma after eating the devil fruit at the human hunting game?
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# ? Nov 23, 2023 21:14 |
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Happy Holidays
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# ? Nov 23, 2023 21:15 |
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# ? Nov 23, 2023 21:19 |
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Arist posted:I really like the idea that the Age-Age fruit responded to Bonney's wish to be older so that's going to be my assumption Yup. Fruits go to who wants them more. More proof that Sanji s second dream was just a joke and he wasn't serious about wanting the invis fruit.
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# ? Nov 23, 2023 21:19 |
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lol
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# ? Nov 23, 2023 21:20 |
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lmao
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# ? Nov 23, 2023 21:42 |
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yum posted:drat, this line of thinking from Vegapunk is painfully naive. I get that Kuma has no choice and less knowledge and awareness of the institution overall, but what the hell Vegapunk I thought you were a genius you did it you've identified the core of vegapunk's entire character
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# ? Nov 23, 2023 22:00 |
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We can't know how Bonnie got the fruit or much about how the fruits actually work until the reveal of how Blackbeard has two devil fruit powers. It's all linked up. The theory that Bonnie ate the fruit in the future isn't even that wild to me. But also fruit may just appear in someone's life when they have that strong desire for it. Honestly the fact that we're in the end game and I still have so many lore questions about really significant events is just building more hype. What's Blackbeard been up to? What's Dragon's deal? What exactly was up with Rocks and why was he so bad that Roger and Garp allied together to keep slavery around?
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# ? Nov 23, 2023 22:26 |
This is a crazy thought but- Maybe Bonney didn't eat a devil fruit. Maybe just wishing to be older gave her that ability. Maybe Kuma's Buccaneer ancestry is linked to the ancient people whose dreams are what made devil fruits. Yes, Bonney does not appear to be his biological child but... it's all just a bit weird isn't it? Alternately, Oda doesn't think "oh, what's this, a strange fruit? bleh! it tastes bad!" is worth wasting a panel on and it's more funny for it to be sudden without any context.
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# ? Nov 23, 2023 23:05 |
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or maybe its celestial dragon blood: maybe they themselves are weak to water, which is why they chose to live on the highest point in the world?
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# ? Nov 23, 2023 23:28 |
Eiba posted:This is a crazy thought but- Maybe Bonney didn't eat a devil fruit. Maybe just wishing to be older gave her that ability. Maybe Kuma's Buccaneer ancestry is linked to the ancient people whose dreams are what made devil fruits. Yes, Bonney does not appear to be his biological child but... it's all just a bit weird isn't it?
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# ? Nov 23, 2023 23:35 |
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Great chapter. What a load of callbacks. All the timeskip locations, Luffy's hometown, Punk Hazard exploding, and Pacifistas.
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# ? Nov 23, 2023 23:39 |
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jassa posted:The one I push back on most is the fandom's use of paramecia instead of paramythia. The latter makes so much more sense, especially in the context of recent arcs and with the importance of fairy tales, myths and imagination in the series. MYTHical zoan paraMYTHia lol also LOGia (prologue?)
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# ? Nov 23, 2023 23:44 |
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Think people are getting too hung up on where the devil fruit came from. We only know the origins of like maybe 5 or 6 characters devil fruits out of a cast of hundreds of characters. Like 99% of them are just "and then they found a devil fruit somehow and ate it" They're mystery fruits! That's like the whole point!
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# ? Nov 23, 2023 23:46 |
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someone with the age age fruit died right outside the church as bonny was eating an orange and the orange became the fruit
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# ? Nov 23, 2023 23:57 |
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i like the idea that she just ate it in her pile of food and didn't notice the weird gross fruit over everything else it's simple and i don't think it needs to be anything more than that.
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 00:05 |
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There's people that go their whole lives without realizing that bad piece of fruit they had 80 years ago was Special.
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 00:14 |
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also if bonney isn't Kuma's biodaughter why does she look like a buccaneer in her alternate future self? And if special blood can carry a DF, maybe the DFs are literally buccaneer blood?
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 00:21 |
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anime was right posted:also if bonney isn't Kuma's biodaughter why does she look like a buccaneer in her alternate future self? And if special blood can carry a DF, maybe the DFs are literally buccaneer blood? i think the specify ability was “Distorted Future” so the implication might be that this was an alternate future based on if she was actually Kuma’s daughter. Similarly there was that near death attack where she shows…the way future when they are dead and it causes them to have a panic attack? Basically her powers seem to play a bit with idea of alternate/possible futures rather than just straight normal aging and de-aging.
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 00:31 |
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lmao
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 00:48 |
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Drakkel posted:Think people are getting too hung up on where the devil fruit came from. We only know the origins of like maybe 5 or 6 characters devil fruits out of a cast of hundreds of characters. Like 99% of them are just "and then they found a devil fruit somehow and ate it" They're mystery fruits! That's like the whole point!
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 01:02 |
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Drakkel posted:They're mystery fruits! That's like the whole point! _______I see_____
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 01:42 |
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 02:05 |
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GodFish posted:Buy why is the minister of science and defense the one hearing about an escaped slave, or the one confronting Kuma after eating the devil fruit at the human hunting game? Probably cause he was there and the highest ranked person. A new King of a member Kingdom is something he should be informed of as is anything to do with Vegapunk.
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 02:10 |
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What kind of conditioner does Kuma use for his lion locks?
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 02:11 |
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anime was right posted:also if bonney isn't Kuma's biodaughter why does she look like a buccaneer in her alternate future self? And if special blood can carry a DF, maybe the DFs are literally buccaneer blood? Maybe a happy buccaneer's love can summon powers for their loved one's dreams? Vegapunk said something like that about devil fruits being human dreams earlier in the arc. That's why it's imperative that the WG enslave and murder their families. Otherwise a crowd of Buccs won't give it up DREAMIN
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 02:26 |
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i think its more that, if we presuppose that the gorosei arent aware of nika worship on the sky islands, then as far as they know the buccaneers were the only remaining believers in him. so by that logic, if they exterminate the buccaneers and have the last remaining ones live under such awful conditions that they give up their faith before dying, then maybe they could smother the nika fruit in the cradle and not have it reappear in the world or be useful, since there would be no dreams fuelling its powers
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 02:50 |
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anime was right posted:also if bonney isn't Kuma's biodaughter why does she look like a buccaneer in her alternate future self? And if special blood can carry a DF, maybe the DFs are literally buccaneer blood? i think this chapter answers that, she’s not his biological daughter but the procedure used to save her life is compared to a bone marrow transplant between Kuma and her, so Bonney ended up with Buccaneer DNA in a roundabout way which presumably manifests itself with her distorted timeline attack.
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 03:25 |
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U-DO Burger posted:I had figured that Kuma's "fly to another island" technique only let you travel to places you've been already, and it's nice to see confirmation. Otherwise getting to Laugh Tale would be too easy. My man was under pressure. Also the direction hes standing in seemingly matters since thats how Rayleigh figured out Luffy got blasted to Amazon Lily. It might have been the only option available
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 03:37 |
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lmfao... dudes a straight clown at this point
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 04:17 |
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anime was right posted:or maybe its celestial dragon blood: building on this idea, maybe the reason celestial dragons are given whatever they want is so their pent up desires and dreams don't manifest into devil fruit powers.
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 04:27 |
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Irony Be My Shield posted:While this is true, it's not too hard to imagine that a pirate or bounty hunter or marine whose job involves travelling the world and coming into contact with powerful criminals had an adventure that caused them to find a fruit at some point. It's harder to explain for a young girl who's barely able to leave her house. Chopper is almost as bad, I’d say. And there’s several other characters who apparently got their Devil Fruits as young children with no particular explanation. I can’t remember if we ever found out how Robin ate her Devil Fruit.
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 04:56 |
Yeah, I completely agree that, interesting tinfoil hat theories aside, it's completely normal that we just don't know how she got her fruit. That part isn't weird. That's how like 98% of people get their devil fruits. Including a bunch of kids. I think speculating about something more going on is fun, but the lack of detail on the exact origin of the fruit is not at all suspicious on its own.
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 05:02 |
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Something I've always found interesting about One Piece is how Real World Solutions are often used to explain the most absurd poo poo. Like the answer to Bonnie's Super Cancer wasn't magic or crazy sci-fi technobabble, it was just a loving stem-cell transplant.
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 06:39 |
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Silver2195 posted:Chopper is almost as bad, I’d say. And there’s several other characters who apparently got their Devil Fruits as young children with no particular explanation. I can’t remember if we ever found out how Robin ate her Devil Fruit. There's a huge difference between someone who can roam freely around an entire island and someone who's stuck inside a single building every day (and all but the darkest of nights). That said, I'd be okay with her having found it hidden away deep within the church, since that would imply some sort of connection between the fruit and Nika. Sure, the fruit might have simply spawned there that morning, but imo that's a much more boring adventure. Either way, I suspect Oda will show/tell us more by the end of the arc. (That said, my faith in Oda has dipped a fair bit during the past couple of chapters...)
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 06:50 |
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:Something I've always found interesting about One Piece is how Real World Solutions are often used to explain the most absurd poo poo. Like the answer to Bonnie's Super Cancer wasn't magic or crazy sci-fi technobabble, it was just a loving stem-cell transplant. I laughed at that too. It's like if Chopper's dream to cure all diseases is fulfilled by finding an ancient CVS on Laugh Tale.
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 06:53 |
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:Something I've always found interesting about One Piece is how Real World Solutions are often used to explain the most absurd poo poo. Like the answer to Bonnie's Super Cancer wasn't magic or crazy sci-fi technobabble, it was just a loving stem-cell transplant. i think the point is one piece is building towards a more realistic explanation of how things work because there was a kingdom with super advanced technology that got wiped off the planet and that oda is going to base some of the fantasy in some basis of science
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# ? Nov 24, 2023 07:17 |
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I think there was an early SBS where Oda talked about the idea of science and technology encroaching on the fantastical world of the unknown, and you often see that idea cropping up throughout One Piece. It's most obvious with Vegapunk and his creations, naturally, but even as early as East Blue you had Kreig's amazing suit of tricks and Buggy blowing away whole towns with good-old chemical explosives. Who remembers the Buggy Ball? I do Buggy. I remember the Buggy Ball.
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:
I don't.
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