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I would suggest aiming lower at this stage and revisiting later. Regular butt joints with glue and nails/screws won't look as nice but will be much easier to do well.
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Completely hidden toilet tanks have always felt like a foolish preposition. Maybe you get it right during installation, but at some point it'll need maintenance. Rubber gaskets, just to name a particular common failure point, have a working life. Over time they turn hard and brittle, and stop working. I've lost count of the number of leaky tanks I've dealt with where a perished gasket was the culprit. (Also, perfect 45 degree miters for a waterfall style cabinet is uhhhhh... ambitious as your first woodworking project, to say the least.)
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NotJustANumber99 posted:i think it will stay in place. And hide the plumbing because its ugly. it wont need maintenance as it will be expertly fitted in the first place. Towards L shape architecture: it wont need maintenance as it will be expertly fitted in the first place.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:i think it will stay in place No, it won't. I'm speaking from experience, I've had to fix many of these "I calculated the loads, it'll be fine" cantilever projects ranging from hilarious to potentially fatal. Wood is not a suitable material for this.
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Dec 2, 2023 16:36
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99 is so confident in his plumbing ability for this sink that when he's done he'll put a concrete slab over the top of it.
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Your plumbing wall extension thing has you well set to use an in-wall carrier arm to hold that sink box up. I think you could conceivably even do it below the lower "shelf" area and support the entire box that way. I would not attempt mitering that, though...
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I would never willingly live in a home where the bathroom cabinet had no doors. Why would I want all of my hygiene stuff out on display? Extra rolls of toilet paper and boxes of tampons aren’t exactly decorative. Plus then you have to take everything out in order to dust because now all of your hair and skin cells floating around in the bathroom have a million little nooks and crannies to settle onto.
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Hutla posted:Extra rolls of toilet paper and boxes of tampons aren’t exactly decorative. They will be when I toilet-paper 99's house
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Dec 2, 2023 17:50
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If you try to cut a 2' long perfect miter you're going to end up having to hide the ugly mess anyway. If you butt joint it and then hide your crimes at least it Darkest Auer posted:There is no loving way that sink frame will stay in place without something supporting it at the front. Also, why hide the plumbing and make it totally impossible to maintain? If the back panel gets moved all the way to the back instead of having a gap it can be attached to the wall directly like a cabinet. I guess you could also do it with brackets designed for floating shelving or similar, though with walls made of spray foam blocks who knows.
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Darkest Auer posted:No, it won't. I'm speaking from experience, I've had to fix many of these "I calculated the loads, it'll be fine" cantilever projects ranging from hilarious to potentially fatal. Wood is not a suitable material for this. Don't worry I haven't calculated the loads.
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Don’t forget to allow for the possibility that someone will sit on the cantilever sink for any number of reasons.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Don't worry I haven't calculated the loads. ur mum tho
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Nighthand posted:99 is so confident in his plumbing ability for this sink that when he's done he'll put a concrete slab over the top of it.
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NotJustANumber99 posted:i think it will stay in place. And hide the plumbing because its ugly. it wont need maintenance as it will be expertly fitted in the first place. 
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Towards L shape architecture: Don't worry I haven't calculated the loads
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I think that design would cantilever well off a strong wall. It's a shame you didn't build any of those.
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Floating sinks are ugly as gently caress
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will lady visitors like it though?
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Ratjaculation posted:will lady visitors like it though? I'm not sure hypotheticals are helpful here.
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It's a good plan op but why stop there? Cantilever everything. Cantilever your bed off the bedroom wall
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Back to your heat pump with the rear diffuser. Like, your rules lawyering makes sense with envelope mathematics but fluid mechanics is a deeply weird subject and odd things can happen like helmholtz resonance coupling between the fan and the space you've created, or the fence is going to rime up all the way into the fan, or just plain exhaust recirculation killing the efficiency. If you do think it's worth chancing, how about laying some council paving slabs (the big 3'x2' fuckers that come with a free hernia) around your concrete base so you have a solid working surface and you can make position adjustments in future, should you need to? Ours is on some anti-vibration rubber feet that aren't even bolted down, and the last foot or two of pipework is flexible, so udging it around wouldn't be that hard.  Also, these boys piss out water all the time and no amount of fiddling with the drain plugs will solve that. Make sure you've got something that can deal with a couple of litres/hour of water leaking out.
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Endjinneer posted:Back to your heat pump with the rear diffuser.  ????
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Fake News, 99 would never seek the Shortening Of The Way
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For the sink, I think it is enough to add wide 2 by blocking between the studs, finish the walls, and support with a cleat on top and the cantilever pressure at the bottom. There are other hardware options available for floating shelves that may be more hidden and/or have a load spec. The cabinet should span both studs for max strength. I have a drawer unit from ikea that is 5 or 6 feet long hanging off a 1x cleat. The ikea ikstructions say the feet are not structural. The top waterfall miters are much more visually important than the lower two joints so I'd have butts on the bottom with end grain facing the floor. This way you can make the walls long and sneak up to a good miter. It is done when it passes inspection with a combination square and straight edge. After that practice, make the top to width allowing material for some mistakes. Cut the sides to height after the miters are finalized. So cut with a circular saw and straight edge to 45d and rasp work to the gauges. Join with screws and plugs or biscuits or floating tenons or whatever.
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Ratjaculation posted:will lady visitors like it though? Jaded Burnout posted:I'm not sure hypotheticals are helpful here. Cantilever? Barely know er!
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When you know it's over but you cantilever
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Sorry, I was busy all day yesterday but this amusing drawing is roughly what I was talking about. It does expose the end grain, e.g, it loses the waterfall effect. You can recapture the waterfall effect with veneer, but I would not use veneer on a bathroom sink cabinet because it'll constantly be exposed to water which is a bad thing to do to veneer. The problem I have with this cantilevered design:  is that I think it'll be springy at best, even if it's really well engineered (heh). To get it stiff (heh) I think you need some serious support structure, like hollow square steel bar? And then you need to hang the whole structure on it, and you have the interior exposed, so are you gonna pocket that into the wood somehow? If I welded a square tube support structure I could maybe park that whole sink box on top of it but if you looked under the box you'd see the steel. Is that OK?
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Leperflesh posted:The problem I have with this cantilevered design: I just bought a house with cantilevered sinks. I then learned that Amazon sells a variety of attachable and adjustable furniture legs that you can use to support the front of the loving things because even if it's solid when you install it, every rear end in a top hat that uses your bathroom is going to put their body weight on it at some point and it will not be solid in the near future. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08R6X41F9 Don't do it. Just put in a normal god drat cabinet. They're normal for a reason. Fads are fads for a reason.
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Alternate approach: Leave it as-is and think of how embarrassing it will be for whichever houseguest tries to have sex on your sink and breaks it.
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Joke's on you, nobody's having sex in that house.
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bathrooms should have lots of drawer and cabinet space
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Joke's on you, nobody's having sex in that house. not willingly anyway - seeing as every room is a vacuum sealed, sound insulated sex dungeon.
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bred posted:The top waterfall miters are much more visually important than the lower two joints so I'd have butts on the bottom with end grain facing the floor. This way you can make the walls long and sneak up to a good miter. It is done when it passes inspection with a combination square and straight edge. After that practice, make the top to width allowing material for some mistakes. Cut the sides to height after the miters are finalized. Ya this seems like the way this is doable. Bathroom still looks like its designed for hairless androids tho
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99 should share a screenshot of the Pinterest mood board
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Yeah do this. Or get someone with a CNC machine to make the frame up for you. Getting a 4-piece rectangular mitered frame to line up properly is a nightmare even for simple small pieces. You have absolutely no chance doing it yourself of getting it all perfect. I have like 20 years of professional woodworking experience and if somebody told me to make your mitered design I'd tell them to piss off.
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WhatEvil posted:Getting a 4-piece rectangular mitered frame to line up properly is a nightmare even for simple small pieces. You have absolutely no chance doing it yourself of getting it all perfect. Yeah, I finished this small side table a week ago and it was very challenging even with access to a very nice table saw.  We just had our bathrooms done with floating vanities. It's great for floor cleaning and I do like the look. They have a base frame with the melamine clad down the sides and base. Stone top. Here's a pic of the top corner.  And overall pic: 
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Sticky Date posted:And overall pic: I mean obviously this is a little amateur looking, but yeah thats what I'm after. lmao
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Sticky Date posted:We just had our bathrooms done with floating vanities. It's great for floor cleaning and I do like the look. Isn't that worse for floor cleaning? You're just adding more floor that needs to be cleaned except now it has a vanity over the top of it making it harder to access and more likely to collect crud or dropped belongings unknowingly. I do actually like the look myself but it seems to be nothing but cons from a purely functional perspective.
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