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seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal
Seiferguy, you have an early morning meeting in the bay area Monday. Just fly in early Sunday and enjoy yourself.

Ah, well, nevertheless

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shirts and skins
Jun 25, 2007

Good morning!
lol Geno inactive



see y'all next week

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here
Lol

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here
Run established?

King Hong Kong
Nov 6, 2009

For we'll fight with a vim
that is dead sure to win.

lol if you didn’t think this was the kind of game where Drew Lock would go 30 for 40 with 4 TDs.

feller
Jul 5, 2006


King Hong Kong posted:

lol if you didn’t think this was the kind of game where Drew Lock would go 30 for 40 with 4 TDs.

Laterite
Mar 14, 2007

It's Gutfest '89
Grimey Drawer
the seahawks clearly have zero confidence in Lock; I kinda feel bad for the guy here

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here
Gotta admit, I'm sick of the niners trying to pin teams deep on kickoffs. It's a stupid strategy that rarely works. It's also dangerous for the players. It is so much better to just boot it out of the end zone every single time. It's so much better, obviously, to start every drive at the 25 rather than sometimes at the 20 and sometimes at the 30 and sometimes a little better or much worse and get injuries.

But they just keep doing it.

And on the other end, just fair catch poo poo every time. You get the ball at the 25 no matter where you fair catch it. Fewer injuries. Very little chance of turnovers or starting with bad field position. I swear, NFO teams are pants on head stupid when it comes to kickoffs and special teams. And don't get me started on punts and having multiple kickers.

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here
gently caress it. Gonna complain about punts, as well.

Just kick it as high as possible so your coverage team can get there. You might get 5-10 fewer yards per punt, but the other team won't be able to return it which is better than giving up massive return yards. Especially, in game winning situation like the Rams today.

These are easy decisions that benefit the team. And you can save a roster spot. Get your kicker to do punts.

My guide to having the best special teams in the league:

1 - fair catch every kick off return
2 - every kickoff into the end zone
3 - every punt high as gently caress to force fair catches
4 - drop your punter and have the kicker perform both duties

Thank you.

I remember a number of years back Seattle had some stat where they had barely given up any return yards on punts all year. And it was because they just lofted it every time. It's effective but no one seems to have done it since. I guess getting a few more yards on average is worth bad runbacks.

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
Sounds like you just want to get rid of special teams

Also kicking and punting are completely different skillsets, it's ridiculous to expect someone to be good at both. Every time a team tries to get clever with their specialist positions it gets people fired.

Pungry
Feb 26, 2011

JUST PICK ONE. ANY ONE.
16 points is more than I expected from this offense vs San Fran. Finally, a week with a moral victory for the Seahawks!

Coldforge
Oct 29, 2002

I knew it would be bad.
I didn't know it would be so stupid.
I don't think I've ever seen a more obvious case of roid rage than DK Metcalf

Rad Valtar
May 31, 2011

Someday coach Im going to throw for 6 TDs in the Super Bowl.

Sit your ass down Steve.
BANG BANG

Papercut
Aug 24, 2005
That was real stupid by Lenoir and a sloppy win overall but I'll take it.

Now just for both Philly and Dallas to lose tonight somehow

Strong Sauce
Jul 2, 2003

You know I am not really your father.





Coldforge posted:

I don't think I've ever seen a more obvious case of roid rage than DK Metcalf

Eh. Warner kinda instigated it.

But also LOL at Lenoir getting kicked out but basically didn't even move Metcalf at all with his shove. Both Metcalf and Warner are huge dudes.

Shindragon
Jun 6, 2011

by Athanatos
Nothing more satisfying than a sweep. Especially against the hawks. Now a bit more to even the 17-4 :v:

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
We covered the spread, hang that banner :hawksin:

Coldforge
Oct 29, 2002

I knew it would be bad.
I didn't know it would be so stupid.

Strong Sauce posted:

Eh. Warner kinda instigated it.

But also LOL at Lenoir getting kicked out but basically didn't even move Metcalf at all with his shove. Both Metcalf and Warner are huge dudes.

DK bodyslammed him after he lateraled the ball, if you want to get all technical about it.

nikosoft
Dec 17, 2011

ghost in the shell, but somehow much worse
College Slice
We've been on the bad side of an asskicking and player meltdown many times before, so it's nice when the Niners actually win one of those against the Hawks

trilljester
Dec 7, 2004

The People's Tight End.
The San Francisco 49ers are pretty good.

Manoueverable
Oct 23, 2010

Dubs Loves Wubs
So are we at the beginning of the end for the Hawks or are we already halfway to hell?

shirts and skins
Jun 25, 2007

Good morning!

Benne posted:

We covered the spread, hang that banner :hawksin:

hell yeah, that was less bad than I expected without Geno

one more brutal loss upcoming with the Philly visit, then we can start wrapping this season up

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Niners pretty much shut down the Seahawks running game in the second half. We here in the NFC West thread know you can't win if you can't run.

Mister Perky
Aug 2, 2010

Strong Sauce posted:

So I guess YouTube algorithm is showing people who watched an NFL highlight old football matches that people have taken off a VHS and use some fancy AI poo poo to stabilize/colorize the footage. Because yeah I got one...

It really is amazing seeing how much the NFL has changed, from the type of hits you can use to how badly the offenses are. The one they showed me was 49ers vs Rams from 1972. The 49ers QB is STEVE SPURRIER.

Obviously if you incentivize people to be able to throw an ovoid-shaped ball, people are only going to get better at it but watching some of the throws... they are literally missing swing passes with no one in their face. It's no wonder the running game was so viable, since no one could throw worth a drat in the 60s/70s.

But even the running game feels so different. Like they're handing it off without any kind of run up. The center hikes the ball to the quarterback (NO SHOTGUN OBV) who immediately hands it off to the running back because he's right behind the QB maybe 3 yards off.

Also everyone is in a 3-point stance, even the receivers. I know even as late as the 80s receivers did this but it's funny to see. They all also have butterfinger hands.. either that or just no stickum back then.

Then the kicking.. I know the whole soccer style kicking revolutionized the kicking game but watching the old school way of doing it.. which was for the kicker to line up maybe 2 yards directly behind the holder, take one step, and trying to kick a point after (and just completely whiffing) is pretty funny.

Nevermind the camera work, in probably the best deep pass I've watched so far, roman gabriel chucks a huge goose-eggy throw that you think is going to get intercepted because the camera is focusing on a 49er defensive back but no it's actually a deep go route he's trying to go for. The of course the announcer starts talking about how people think Jack Snow (the receiver who caught it) is too slow (lmao). (it's around 17:22 in the video below)

Meanwhile the coach of the Rams, Tommy Prothro, is just smoking like crazy on the sidelines. Anytime they cut to him there's a long skinny cigarette in his mouth. He would be fired after the season.

And the refs.. they're just letting people line up in the neutral zone.. maybe that wasn't a rule back then yet but some plays the defensive tackle's hand on the ground goes past where the football is and his helmet goes passed the helmet of the center. Another play the refs just miss a blatant offside call against a 49ers (they later call a similar one against the rams, so they just missed this one).

The game has changed.

Funniest play (time marker 14:58) (if you watch to 15:44, this is the play where the QB misses an easy swing pass)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtJ1FLwFdOs&t=897s

don't forget Offensive Linemen having to actually line up on the line. It's funny how it takes a big leap in time to that to suddenly notice the massive change that's occurred incrementally over years and years and mostly gone unnoticed.

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

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Everybody belongs here
500+ yards but only 28 points. It could have been so much worse. Seattle had a legitimate path to victory, but they made mistakes, too. If they hadn't...it would have been much closer at the end.

harperdc
Jul 24, 2007

Benne posted:

We covered the spread, hang that banner :hawksin:

Good teams win, great teams cover :hawksin:

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

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Wasn't the spread 10.5?

shirts and skins
Jun 25, 2007

Good morning!
oh lest I forget

Jamal Adams get the hell off my team, bitch

Lifespan
Mar 5, 2002

Waltzing Along posted:

Wasn't the spread 10.5?

It jumped to 14.5 when they announce Geno was out.

shirts and skins posted:

oh lest I forget

Jamal Adams get the hell off my team, bitch

Yup. That trade and contract are enough to boot Schneider alone.

Lifespan fucked around with this message at 02:51 on Dec 11, 2023

DeimosRising
Oct 17, 2005

¡Hola SEA!


shirts and skins posted:

hell yeah, that was less bad than I expected without Geno

one more brutal loss upcoming with the Philly visit, then we can start wrapping this season up

honestly if you played like you did today you might win against philly. they are not in world beating shape right now

Laterite
Mar 14, 2007

It's Gutfest '89
Grimey Drawer
i hate any timeline where the Cowboys are actually good

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

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DeimosRising posted:

honestly if you played like you did today you might win against philly. they are not in world beating shape right now

Yeah. The Eagles are very beatable. I think it is 3 plays in 3 games and they fall to 7-5. They are lucky as poo poo this year.

Coldforge
Oct 29, 2002

I knew it would be bad.
I didn't know it would be so stupid.

Laterite posted:

i hate any timeline where the Cowboys are actually good

You're in luck!

Manoueverable
Oct 23, 2010

Dubs Loves Wubs
God it's really going to be Cowboys-Niners in the NFCCG isn't it?

I hate it here, man.

e: agreeing with the calls to get Jamal and DK the hell off my team, absolute wastemen.

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

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Well...we got the #1 seed. Now let's not lose it, all right? It would be nice to take advantage of the NFL's stupid bye rules for once.

Papercut
Aug 24, 2005
Please win out, Niners

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

I would have preferred the cowboys lose.

Lifespan
Mar 5, 2002

Waltzing Along posted:

Well...we got the #1 seed.

Oh really, what position do you play :dadjoke:?

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 6 hours!
The important thing is one of the Eagles or Cowboys were thoroughly humiliated

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mllaneza
Apr 28, 2007

Veteran, Bermuda Triangle Expeditionary Force, 1993-1952




Mustached Demon posted:

I would have preferred the cowboys lose.

Nah. As a rule, I do not want Cowboys fans to ever be happy, but I want the #1 seed even more.

Besides, how funny is it that the only team with a winning record that the Cowboys have beaten is the Eagles? Because I'm going with :lmao:

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