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big dyke energy posted:He should be sorrier. Just my opinion. you know what? he is.
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Look if it comes down to destroying the human race or not destroying the human race, and I get a bonus try as a god with the first option, I'm gonna roll the dice.
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mdemone posted:Look if it comes down to destroying the human race or not destroying the human race, and I get a bonus try as a god with the first option, I'm gonna roll the dice. The nine houses are a few million people iirc. All the remaining 99% are now hungry angry ghosts.
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sebmojo posted:The nine houses are a few million people iirc. All the remaining 99% are now hungry angry ghosts. If they would have paid attention to what I said we would be just fine. Also they should have a cookie.
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Dec 11, 2023 01:25
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Plus all the people John is keeping in his fridge
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Tor Tumblr is having a real one  cruxussy
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I am suddenly more sympathetic to John's actions. Kill it all.
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John probably wrote that fanfic and that post.
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"Which has entered my body through my eyes" is a phrase I'm going to adopt
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lol this mfer's name is Donald Sex, what a dork. Neat side story though. E: I have zero Photoshop skills so pretend that I pasted the Sixth House skull over this NY Post cover  E2: And edit "Juno" in over Marla C-Euro fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Dec 12, 2023 |
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*extremely kiwi accent* cahs look it sunsuts too
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Strategic Tea posted:*extremely kiwi accent* cahs look it sunsuts too It's more like keears (I just said it out loud a few times to check)
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And you need an upwards inflection at the end, like you're asking a question.
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I've been listening to the Harrow audiobook off-and-on and the climactic scene with Jod being confronted by his lyctors w/r/t perfect lyctorhood, his lies, everything seems to hit a lot different after knowing the revelations from Nona. There's also a weird thing where Gideon in Harrow's body describes mental noise like screaming when Jod looks at them, it seems to be coming from the spirit of Alecto? Harrow's soul is MIA at that point because she chooses to dunk herself into the river again rather than consume Gideon
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lines posted:You know, you can accuse John of many things, but being a capitalist is not one of them I suppose. John Gaius is that man.
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Having just finished Nona, I need to chew on all the analysis for a while, BUT I'm still firmly on John's side BECAUSE this apparently just *happened* to him. He developed the skill and used it for awful ends but from all textual evidence it was a pure gift that he did not ask for, and when he was still a human-ish guy he tried to act correctly. It's an "absolute power corrupts absolutely" tale.
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Even if you can forgive his actions at the time which lead up to the Resurrection, it doesn't really justify the following 10,000 years. "Power corrupts" does not free the powerful from the moral burden of their deeds.
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mdemone posted:Having just finished Nona, I need to chew on all the analysis for a while, BUT I'm still firmly on John's side BECAUSE this apparently just *happened* to him. He developed the skill and used it for awful ends but from all textual evidence it was a pure gift that he did not ask for, and when he was still a human-ish guy he tried to act correctly. He started a literal necromantic death cult that killed first itself then 10 billion people (btw I totally get liking John, i do too he's very charming, it's just funny putting that feeling next to the objective fact that he is at absolute best a thousand times worse than Hitler)
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He was given the power, and then handled the next few years of PR incredibly badly, hosed up, and then refused to admit fault for the next myriad. And also triple downed on the brainwashing and death cult that got him in trouble in the first place.
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disposablewords posted:Even if you can forgive his actions at the time which lead up to the Resurrection, it doesn't really justify the following 10,000 years. "Power corrupts" does not free the powerful from the moral burden of their deeds. But it's pretty clear that by then he's not bound by human morality, and we can't expect him to be, since he is no longer bound by human desires. It just seems irrelevant to judge him based on what we think is moral. "Where were you when I made the world", etc. Of course John is bad, in the same way that all gods are necessarily bad.
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mdemone posted:But it's pretty clear that by then he's not bound by human morality, and we can't expect him to be, since he is no longer bound by human desires. what Of course he's bound by human morality and human desires.
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Also if anybody wants to give me divine powers and free me from my worldly desires I promise my cult to be more in line with Bacchus and Aphrodite than the whole corpse thing.
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issuing correction on a previous post of mine, regarding the genocidal maniac John Gaius. you do not, under any circumstances, "gotta hand it to him"
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Rand Brittain posted:what He's not remotely human though. You don't know what a god wants, what a god needs.
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if he's not bound by human desires, then explain all the orgies (please don't explain all the orgies)
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mdemone posted:He's not remotely human though. But we know exactly what he wants.
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I'm mostly being glib for contrarian reasons. But I do think that Muir at least intends us to wrestle with "all gods are evil" as an idea.
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Nona is not evil. Nona loves you. And Nona loves Noodle and all the good doggos.
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Can I just say that while I did know who Nona was, early on, I did not get the hint from her name until it was said out loud. I felt very stupid as a reader for the first time in a while.
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lines posted:Hang on, what hint? Nonagesimus. It's right in Harrow's loving name.
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Nah, John really still wants to be seen as a cool dude who people like and can get along with. Even if he is something different now, he fully merits being judged given what he is trying to be. If you're an unreachable, amoral god beyond judgement, then commit to the bit and don't try to have fun dinner parties and relationships.
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What's the point of living 10,000 years if you can't have dinner parties and gently caress
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FuturePastNow posted:What's the point of living 10,000 years if you can't have dinner parties and gently caress Thread title?
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disposablewords posted:Nah, John really still wants to be seen as a cool dude who people like and can get along with. Even if he is something different now, he fully merits being judged given what he is trying to be. If you're an unreachable, amoral god beyond judgement, then commit to the bit and don't try to have fun dinner parties and relationships. I don't think that dinner party was fun for anyone except the reader.
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disposablewords posted:Nah, John really still wants to be seen as a cool dude who people like and can get along with. Even if he is something different now, he fully merits being judged given what he is trying to be. If you're an unreachable, amoral god beyond judgement, then commit to the bit and don't try to have fun dinner parties and relationships. putting aside the resurrection (just yada yada the ten billion angry ghosts), he is absolutely pursuing a genocidal 10,000 year long war of conquest that murders planets. he could stop at any time.
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sebmojo posted:putting aside the resurrection (just yada yada the ten billion angry ghosts), he is absolutely pursuing a genocidal 10,000 year long war of conquest that murders planets. he could stop at any time. That’s literally all A & M ask of him at the end and he murders them instead.
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Mad Hamish posted:I don't think that dinner party was fun for anyone except the reader. It certainly wasn't fun for me.
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