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Fidelitious posted:It of course costs significantly more than gas heating like we had in our old home but this house has no gas service and I don't want it, so there you go. hosed up. I think heat pumps are like 5x cheaper than gas in Europe but idk
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gas is like ten times as expensive in Europe compared to north america so that checks out
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Splode posted:When it's too cold for a heat pump, what happens? I know below around 4 degrees C it starts getting less and less efficient, but once you get below -25C, does it just become unable to heat your house to the target temperature or does it conk out completely? My heat pump is rated to 100% heating capacity down to -17C and will still heat to full temp down to -34C and can maintain 10C output down to -40. "Heat pumps" are not a monolithic technology anymore, and getting one tuned to your climate is what responsible installers do.
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Dec 23, 2023 18:02
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Or get one of eBay from a disabled lady
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Dec 23, 2023 18:11
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You also need to have the heat pump unit in a sensible location, mine is under the terrace (on a very steep hill) and I think it doesn't get that cold under there. It gets pretty cold up here a few times through winter. The house construction is obviously important, this is a new build place with good insulation and it doesn't cost very much to heat at all. Gratuitous chalet phot: 
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Dec 23, 2023 18:24
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That's a shed.
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knox_harrington posted:You also need to have the heat pump unit in a sensible location, mine is under the terrace (on a very steep hill) and I think it doesn't get that cold under there. It gets pretty cold up here a few times through winter. Would live in that shed.
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Dec 23, 2023 18:59
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Wanna meet that shed.
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goatface posted:Would live in that shed.
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Dead Goon posted:That's a shed. 2 story shed. Would live in.
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Dec 23, 2023 20:32
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Gonna be a bugger to get the lawnmower out of that. Rubbish.
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Dec 23, 2023 20:41
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Messadiah posted:3 story shed.
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Dead Goon posted:That's a shed. I would trade my house for that shed.
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Dec 24, 2023 00:37
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How do I go about relocating my apartment into one of the disused corners of that shed.
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knox_harrington posted:No they have a resistive electric heater as a backup which is obviously much less efficient. But you still get heating. I don't think mine has ever come on. Often they do, but it's not mandatory. In the UK you wouldn't need it. There are heat pumps rated down to -25C or something and below that they mostly just get less efficient... though there are at some point problems with the coils icing up. Of course it would have to be a real freak event for anywhere in the UK to get that cold. I think I remember seeing -14C once for one crazy cold morning in about... 2010? But typically for most of the UK -5 or 6C seems to be about the coldest it ever gets, right? Fidelitious posted:Also here in Ottawa with a heat pump for winter for the first time. Yeah we're looking at maybe switching over to air-source heat pump in conjunction with rooftop solar 'cause it's probably the only way it makes sense financially. WhatEvil fucked around with this message at 20:03 on Dec 24, 2023 |
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Dec 24, 2023 19:55
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I think NJAN is down in the south enough he'll not get cold cold more than a few weeks a year. If that. It's gonna be 12C/55F on Christmas day round here. Winter is hosed.
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goatface posted:I think NJAN is down in the south enough he'll not get cold cold more than a few weeks a year. If that. It's 13c outside ATM, at half seven at night. It's great for the heating bill but frightening long term.
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Dec 24, 2023 20:34
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Everything is frightening long term
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niethan posted:Everything is frightening long term Potential thread title imo. Or " frighteningly long term" , either works
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Don't worry it'll snow in April.
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I don't think i've ever seen temperatures lower than -3, and I used to live near Newcastle. If I recall correctly people were starting to talk about putting on a coat, it was a huge scandal.
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when global warming gets bad enough to dump all of greenland's ice into the north atlantic, stopping the thermocycle of water, europe will get much much colder very fast and you will be wishing your heat pump was rated for -30c or whatever. Along with wishing there was still food. merry xmas NJAN99. I hope by next christmas you'll be living in your L.
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Dec 25, 2023 06:40
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Pretty much, that also weakens the jet stream so it’s a double whammy
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So much for global warming
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The collapse of society will make us less concerned about heat. We'll have everything on fire to keep us warm.
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99 is set when society collapses, just pour some concrete between the pilings and the bunker is ready to go. Easy.
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I would rather go full Colin Furze myself and put a bunker under my garden
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Failed Imagineer posted:hosed up. I think heat pumps are like 5x cheaper than gas in Europe but idk I checked gas rates and unless I've hosed up the therm -> cubic meter conversion it looks like the average UK price is about 2.8x more expensive than here. I'd also say that our house is from the 50s and not the best insulated thing in the world. I have to get around to sealing all the drafts now that I've found my thermal camera.
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If you want to get deep into the numbers, the Microgeneration Certification Scheme produce a calculation sheet for heat pump sizing and you can get it here: https://mcscertified.com/mcs-launch-new-improved-heat-pump-calculator/ along with the standard MIS-3005. Heat pumps specified using this method reference an outside temperature that is exceeded for 99% or 99.6% of the hours in an average year, depending on whether the heat pump is designed to run intermittently or full time when heating the house during that outside temp.
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What you could do is if it gets too cold, build the heat pump its own air conditioned house.
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Get a ground source heat pump
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Starbucks posted:Get a ground source heat pump If I see you post in the thread where I've got powers You're dead
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NotJustANumber99 posted:If I see you post in the thread where I've got powers Call that ground beef
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NotJustANumber99 posted:If I see you post in the thread where I've got powers I’m more talking about if it gets too cold for an air source heat pump you get a ground source heat pump. It won’t be that cold in the UK at least for a good few years.
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Starbucks posted:I’m more talking about if it gets too cold for an air source heat pump you get a ground source heat pump. It won’t be that cold in the UK at least for a good few years. Ok death sentence lifted
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YuLe tidings mofos. Yeah so I've done very little recently and feel like doing even less in the coming days. My dad is here "helping". What little ability and patience I have instantly evaporate into toddler level bolshy sulking. which is not ideal on things like this:  test 45 degree cut on some leftover softwood yeah. doesnt look right  dad pressures me into cutting the oak anyway, which to be fair wtf else am i planning on doing?  dogshit. just burnt its way through, a jink in the middle because it wasnt properly setup and ultimately isnt 45 degrees anyway. loving merry xmas  also isnt oak, but ork anyway. off to brothers gaff in the cotswolds for xmas. a work in progress itself. lovely bathroom  found the flush  rest of family are in airbnb over the road. this is my bedroom  which is normally my 3 year old neice's room. the ensuite:   last minute xmas shopping for dad.  this is actually a legit good present. he said he wanted some balsa wood to glue to the lid of his campervan so when the satellite dish folds down it sits on it. smashed it. loving midgnight xmas eve trying to drunkenly wrap this ffs for nephew   this is what i get:  a printed out picture of some toolstation stuff to collect. great got this too later when i said i needed it. my dad much prefers shopping to working when he offers to help. but thats actually pretty preferable  oh and the company that sold me the buffer tank send me a free xmas gift t shirt lol  lol i wasn't involved but last thing before we leave my brothers we need to run some electrics for the new gas combi boiler thats getting installed whilst hes away at other grandads (whose mega minted). anyway boiler complains about low flow and long story short someones smashed a rosebush stake through the house's main gas supply.  New, short term plan for my electrics. run the commando power round the front of the house and under in the now unnecessary header conduits run under the house for when there was going to be a ground source heatpump  Pull it through in plant room and temp wire it into a circuit in the main house from there.  safest to use one of the big fat oven wires as they are indepent and run solely for that so no danger of accidentally powering up other sockets or anything  works great. can now shut all the doors and keep heat in and work almost like a real house. Meanwhile starting to plug in all the lighting wiring into the lighting distribution box  to gradually tidy up the plant room and get everything ready to actually fix up al my piperuns and install the heatpump and all that crap    not finished yet but pretty tidy. outside I went for a wander into the swamp   the project rolls into 2024 and i'm not dead yet. Happy New Year you filthy animals NotJustANumber99 fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Jan 1, 2024 |
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Lmao. Happy New Year, hope you get this poo poo done this year. Nice to see that your particular madness is genetic.
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Are square toilets normal in England?
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o7
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Happy New Year you filthy animals 
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