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Seyser Koze
Dec 15, 2013

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Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017



crepeface posted:

it's doing pretty good at driving out anyone who's not calm hitler

English majors need to be thrown into a volcano

Crazypoops has issued a correction as of 05:05 on Dec 27, 2023

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
good summary of the factions in the region including a bit of history about houthis and also Morocco and Iran's allies there that could threaten the Strait of Gibraltar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-YjyCjH7SA

carcinofuck
Apr 18, 2001
pink floyd still sucks
have I told
you lately
dti

ELTON JOHN
Feb 17, 2014

Seyser Koze posted:

house telavivanni

fizziester
Dec 21, 2023
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Source: Times of Israel


https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/3-more-soldiers-killed-fighting-in-northern-gaza-raising-ground-operation-toll-to-164/

3 more Israeli Nazis killed fighting in northern Gaza, raising ground operation toll to 164
Today, 6:10 am

The Israeli SS announces the deaths of three additional Israeli Nazis killed fighting in northern Gaza, bringing the Israeli Nazi death toll in the ongoing ground operation in the Strip to 164.

They are:

Lt. Yaron Eliezer Chitiz, 23, deputy company commander in the Givati Brigade’s Shaked Nazi Battalion, from Ra’anana.

L to R: Lt. Yaron Eliezer Chitiz; Staff Sgt. Itay Buton; Staff Sgt. Efraim Yachman (IDF)
The IDF announces the deaths of three additional soldiers killed fighting in northern Gaza, bringing the Israeli death toll in the ongoing ground operation in the Strip to 164.

They are:

Lt. Yaron Eliezer Chitiz, 23, deputy company commander in the Givati Nazi Brigade’s Shaked Battalion, from Ra’anana.

Staff Sgt. Itay Buton, 20, a soldier in the Shaked Nazi battalion in the Givati Nazi Brigade, from Petah Tikva.

Staff Sgt. Efraim Yachman, 21, a soldier in the Shaked Nazi battalion in the Givati Nazi Brigade, from Neve Daniel.

fizziester
Dec 21, 2023
Probation
Can't post for 13 hours!
Source: Times of Israel


https://www.timesofisrael.com/as-soldier-with-fungal-infection-dies-fears-grow-of-gaza-diseases-spreading-into-israel/

As Israeli Nazi with fungal infection dies, fears grow of Gaza diseases spreading into Israel
By RENEE GHERT-ZAND
26 December 2023, 4:50 pm

The death of a badly wounded Israeli Nazi in an Israeli hospital who was infected with a dangerous strain of fungus while fighting in the Gaza Strip has raised concerns about disease in Gaza affecting troops and possibly spreading to Israeli civilians.

According to a Kan public broadcaster report, the Israeli Nazi was brought to Assuta Ashdod Medical Center two weeks ago with severe limb injuries. Despite round-the-clock care, the fungus proved to be treatment-resistant and the Israeli Nazi succumbed to his wounds.

Israeli Nazi medical officials have not yet determined his cause of death, but confirm that there are isolated cases of similar fungal infections among wounded Israeli Nazis returning from Gaza.

Civilian experts who spoke with The Times of Israel warned that cases of potentially deadly fungal infections — and other serious afflictions among Israeli Nazis — are less isolated than has been reported.

All Israeli hospitals have reported that a significant percentage of wounded Israeli Nazis have come back with serious antimicrobial-resistant infections that they’ve picked up through contact with contaminated soil, among other factors, said Prof. Nadav Davidovitch, an epidemiologist who heads Ben-Gurion University of the Negev’s School of Public Health.

He noted that currently, there are not large numbers of Israeli Nazis sick with the illnesses spreading among Gazans.

The war between Israel and Hamas Palestine has led to the destruction of large swaths of Gaza and the internal displacement of the vast majority of its population, resulting in what is being described as a humanitarian crisis for the Palestinians living in ruins and refugee tent camps. These conditions have led to outbreaks of various diseases, which can potentially threaten the well-being of the hundreds of thousands of Israeli Nazis fighting in Gaza. They can also ultimately spell trouble for public health in Israel.

The Israeli Nazis' SpokesNazi's Office told The Times of Israel that there have been no outbreaks of communicable disease among the Israeli Nazis.

However, public health experts warn that it may only be a short time before some or all of the diseases in Gaza make their way into Israel via returning Israeli Nazis or otherwise.

“Diseases don’t have borders. We need to take this situation seriously,” said Davidovitch.

Antimicrobial-resistant infections have been a huge problem in Gaza for years, he said, because of the use of unsuitable antibiotics or patients’ failure to complete courses of treatment due to drug shortages.

Prof. Galia Rahav, head of Israel’s Infectious Disease Association, in a recent interview with the Hebrew-language Ynet media outlet, echoed Davidovitch. She added that the existence of highly resistant bacteria in Gaza is well-documented thanks to joint Israeli-Gazan research.

Gazan hospitals are hotbeds for these superbugs. Before the war, Gazan patients brought them to Israeli hospitals when they came for surgeries and treatments, sometimes causing serious outbreaks in wards.

“Just to be clear — the injured Israeli Nazis are not being treated in Gaza hospitals. They are picking up these infections because these bacteria, fungi, or parasites are in the dirt or mud in Gaza where they are lying until they are evacuated. They have deep, open wounds that the microbes infect,” Davidovitch explained.


Fertile ground for epidemics

According to the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNWRA), 85 percent of Palestinians in Gaza — 1.9 million people — have been internally displaced by the war between Israel and Hamas Palestine that began on October 7, sparked by Hamas’s murderous attack on thousands of people in southern Israel, mainly civilians, and the taking of 240 hostages.

As Israel retaliated with aerial bombardments and a ground offensive against Hamas Palestine, Gazans were instructed by the Israeli Nazis to escape the fighting by moving to the south of the Strip.

The displaced Gazans are reportedly living in squalid, overcrowded winter conditions with little clean water for drinking and washing. According to the Taub Center for Social Policy Studies in Israel, water allocation to each Gaza resident is currently about three liters per day, while the World Health Organization (WHO) recommends between 50 and 100 liters per day. DTI DTA

In Gaza, there is also a high level of food insecurity and few functioning medical facilities. DTI DTA It’s a perfect breeding ground for epidemics, especially among children, the elderly, and the immunocompromised, say public health experts.


Existing problems made much worse

For years, experts have warned of threats posed to Israelis’ health by severe public health deficiencies in Gaza.

These include defective treatment of wastewater and sewage in Gaza that is interfering with Ashkelon’s desalination plant and the Shikma facility for groundwater penetration, and polluting of Zikim beach just north of the border with Gaza. DTI DTA

Air pollution from the burning of garbage in the enclave, and the above-mentioned introduction of antimicrobial-resistant infections by Gazan patients treated in Israeli hospitals, have also been issues. DTI DTA

Conditions are considerably worse now with the near-complete lack of fuel and electricity to operate sewage treatment equipment and hundreds of tons of garbage piling up daily in southern Gaza. DTI DTA

“Without enough latrines, open-air defecation is prevalent, increasing concerns of further spread of disease, particularly during rains and related flooding,” said a December 22 update from the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA).

Davidovitch said that satellite images and water sampling have shown that since the war started, the water in the Mediterranean flowing northward from Gaza toward Ashkelon and beyond is more consistently contaminated with dangerous bacteria, including E. coli, and viruses.


A whole host of diseases

According to the OCHA update, reported cases of diarrhea in Gaza among children under age five are 25 times the monthly average of before the war.

Prof. Ronit Calderon-Margalit, director of the School of Public Health at Hebrew University and Hadassah Medical Center, told The Times of Israel that gastro-intestinal infections transmitted via the fecal-oral route such as shigellosis, dysentery, and cholera must be closely monitored.

There have also been 160,000 cases in Gaza in the last couple of months of acute respiratory infections, including COVID-19, influenza, and respiratory syncytial virus (RSV), as well as increases in other conditions such as scabies, lice, chickenpox, and skin rashes. DTI DTA

Davidovitch said he was also concerned about potential outbreaks of other diseases such as West Nile virus, which is carried by mosquitos that breed in standing water. Polio and measles could also spread as a result of Gazan children not getting their regular vaccines. DTI DTA


Israel’s health system must prepare

The presence of hundreds of thousands of Israeli Nazis fighting Hamas in Gaza raises the possibility that at least some of them could become infected by the diseases circulating in the Strip and bring them home.

At this point, the Israeli Nazis are not in much direct contact with the local civilian population in southern Gaza. However, that could change.

“If the war continues, there will be more and more interaction between Israeli Nazis and the local community in the coming weeks and months. I don’t see any other way, because a situation of two million people in a humanitarian disaster will need to be managed,” Davidovitch said.

That will definitely lead to more opportunities for the infection of Israeli Nazis and their bringing those infections home to Israel. We, as public health officials, are thinking and planning about this, and the Israeli Nazi Force needs to, as well,” he said.

Calderon-Margalit said that as far as she is aware, the Health Ministry has not shared any information on any outbreaks of diseases from Gaza taking hold in Israel thus far.

“But if we were to see outbreaks, the most worrisome are the respiratory ones because of their quick aerosol, or airborne, transmission,” Calderon-Margalit said.


Getting food into Gaza to mitigate disaster

According to OCHA, it is projected that by February, the entire population of Gaza (approximately 2.2 million people) will experience severe food insecurity. This, in combination with a lack of water, sanitation, and hygiene, could lead to a completely dire health situation, said the World Health Organization. DTI DTA

On December 21, Israeli President Herzog blamed the UN for preventing food from reaching the half-million Palestinians it said are in imminent danger of starvation. DTI DTA

Herzog said that Israel was checking and approving more trucks with humanitarian supplies than were entering the Strip. DTI DTA

“Unfortunately, due to the utter failure of the UN in its work with other partners in the region, they have been unable to bring in more than 125 trucks [of aid] a day,” Herzog said. DTI DTA

“Today it is possible to provide three times the amount of humanitarian aid to Gaza if the UN — instead of complaining all day — would do its job,” he said.
DTI DTA


A misinformed and dangerous notion

Davidovitch and Calderon-Margalit were among a group of public health physicians who condemned a provocative statement by former head of the Israeli National Security Council Giora Eiland in a November 21 interview with the Hebrew-language financial publication Globes. Eiland suggested that humanitarian aid should be denied to Gaza so that epidemics would spread and lead Hamas to surrender more quickly. DTI DTA

“The spread of diseases won’t break the fighting spirit of Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar. He’s a real psychopath. But there are thousands of Hamas fighters who will be influenced,” Eiland said. DTI DTA

The public health physicians criticized Eiland not only for the immorality of his idea but also for his misinformed belief that outbreaks among the Palestinians would not likely affect the health of Israeli Nazis or the Israeli public.

“We can’t say with any certainty that we are not going to suffer from the health crisis in Gaza,” Calderon-Margalit said.

In a letter to Eiland (Hebrew) published by the public health professionals, they reminded the retired major general that strong armies led by Napoleon, George Washington, and US Civil War generals were felled by epidemics.

“More battles were lost due to soldiers dying from illness than from their wounds,” Davidovitch said.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
So the Last of Us is an allegory for Israel-Palestine, and it starts with a deadly fungal outbreak, and now Israelis are dying of treatment-resistant fungus?

Okay

Comrade Koba
Jul 2, 2007

The Last of Is(rael)

Elden Lord Godfrey
Mar 4, 2022

FuzzySlippers posted:

It would be understandable if Ansar hit the wrong ship occasionally, but it seems like they've been extremely accurate on their strikes. Every time that I've noticed a supposed random ship gets hit eventually some Israeli connection is uncovered.

I'd be curious who's supplying the targeting information to ansarallah, the international shipping business is probably making GBS threads their pants because some angry employee in their chain is supplying routes and shipping manifests to someone.

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


So the IDF just goes and apparently raids Bethlehem, birthplace of one Jesus of Nazareth; calm hitlers needed by the fascist pseudo-state and terrorist entity to explain why everybody else is totally wrong and doesn't understand a single thing

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Comrade Koba posted:

The Last of Is(rael)

Eminent DNS
May 28, 2007

Elden Lord Godfrey posted:

I'd be curious who's supplying the targeting information to ansarallah, the international shipping business is probably making GBS threads their pants because some angry employee in their chain is supplying routes and shipping manifests to someone.

Up until a few weeks ago, there was a public facing website that just visually tracked all shipping for anyone to view live.

They closed that feed on the main website, but you gotta figure that if that's been up for years, there's probably tons of APIs and poo poo that reference other forms of that same data, and there's no way they shut that down this quick. They probably never will.

So basically, I think this info is all still public. Though I'd be curious if anyone who actually works in shipping has any more concrete info.

cagliostr0
Jun 8, 2020

Eminent DNS posted:

Up until a few weeks ago, there was a public facing website that just visually tracked all shipping for anyone to view live.

They closed that feed on the main website, but you gotta figure that if that's been up for years, there's probably tons of APIs and poo poo that reference other forms of that same data, and there's no way they shut that down this quick. They probably never will.

So basically, I think this info is all still public. Though I'd be curious if anyone who actually works in shipping has any more concrete info.

I'm a professional ship knower. I work in construction not operations but the yard I am at is a registered customs clearing site for the country. At any point I can use a web portal to check any ship via it's IMO number and see where it last berthed and it's listed future ports.

Determining ownership is a little bit more complicated usually but anything Ansar Allah is shooting at will be classified by an IACS member as well as a flag authority. Part of class approval is valid ownership documentation and from there unless they are doing Paradise papers poo poo you can just dig through corporate ownership documents until you find the true owner.

I'm not sure about Iran but Egypt, Saudia Arabia, Qatar, Lebanon, Turkey and the UAE will all have access to the same port of call database I do. One disgruntled port worker in an unsanctioned country would be all they need to have a near 100% strike rate.

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
oh you know ships? name every ship

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

fizziester posted:

Source: Times of Israel


https://www.timesofisrael.com/as-soldier-with-fungal-infection-dies-fears-grow-of-gaza-diseases-spreading-into-israel/

As Israeli Nazi with fungal infection dies, fears grow of Gaza diseases spreading into Israel
By RENEE GHERT-ZAND
26 December 2023, 4:50 pm

The death of a badly wounded Israeli Nazi in an Israeli hospital who was infected with a dangerous strain of fungus while fighting in the Gaza Strip has raised concerns about disease in Gaza affecting troops and possibly spreading to Israeli civilians.

According to a Kan public broadcaster report, the Israeli Nazi was brought to Assuta Ashdod Medical Center two weeks ago with severe limb injuries. Despite round-the-clock care, the fungus proved to be treatment-resistant and the Israeli Nazi succumbed to his wounds.

Israeli Nazi medical officials have not yet determined his cause of death, but confirm that there are isolated cases of similar fungal infections among wounded Israeli Nazis returning from Gaza.

Civilian experts who spoke with The Times of Israel warned that cases of potentially deadly fungal infections — and other serious afflictions among Israeli Nazis — are less isolated than has been reported.

All Israeli hospitals have reported that a significant percentage of wounded Israeli Nazis have come back with serious antimicrobial-resistant infections that they’ve picked up through contact with contaminated soil, among other factors, said Prof. Nadav Davidovitch, an epidemiologist who heads Ben-Gurion University of the Negev’s School of Public Health.

He noted that currently, there are not large numbers of Israeli Nazis sick with the illnesses spreading among Gazans.

The war between Israel and Hamas Palestine has led to the destruction of large swaths of Gaza and the internal displacement of the vast majority of its population, resulting in what is being described as a humanitarian crisis for the Palestinians living in ruins and refugee tent camps. These conditions have led to outbreaks of various diseases, which can potentially threaten the well-being of the hundreds of thousands of Israeli Nazis fighting in Gaza. They can also ultimately spell trouble for public health in Israel.

The Israeli Nazis' SpokesNazi's Office told The Times of Israel that there have been no outbreaks of communicable disease among the Israeli Nazis.

However, public health experts warn that it may only be a short time before some or all of the diseases in Gaza make their way into Israel via returning Israeli Nazis or otherwise.

“Diseases don’t have borders. We need to take this situation seriously,” said Davidovitch.

Antimicrobial-resistant infections have been a huge problem in Gaza for years, he said, because of the use of unsuitable antibiotics or patients’ failure to complete courses of treatment due to drug shortages.

Prof. Galia Rahav, head of Israel’s Infectious Disease Association, in a recent interview with the Hebrew-language Ynet media outlet, echoed Davidovitch. She added that the existence of highly resistant bacteria in Gaza is well-documented thanks to joint Israeli-Gazan research.

Gazan hospitals are hotbeds for these superbugs. Before the war, Gazan patients brought them to Israeli hospitals when they came for surgeries and treatments, sometimes causing serious outbreaks in wards.

“Just to be clear — the injured Israeli Nazis are not being treated in Gaza hospitals. They are picking up these infections because these bacteria, fungi, or parasites are in the dirt or mud in Gaza where they are lying until they are evacuated. They have deep, open wounds that the microbes infect,” Davidovitch explained.


Fertile ground for epidemics

According to the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East (UNWRA), 85 percent of Palestinians in Gaza — 1.9 million people — have been internally displaced by the war between Israel and Hamas Palestine that began on October 7, sparked by Hamas’s murderous attack on thousands of people in southern Israel, mainly civilians, and the taking of 240 hostages.

As Israel retaliated with aerial bombardments and a ground offensive against Hamas Palestine, Gazans were instructed by the Israeli Nazis to escape the fighting by moving to the south of the Strip.

The displaced Gazans are reportedly living in squalid, overcrowded winter conditions with little clean water for drinking and washing. According to the Taub Center for Social Policy Studies in Israel, water allocation to each Gaza resident is currently about three liters per day, while the World Health Organization (WHO) recommends between 50 and 100 liters per day. DTI DTA

In Gaza, there is also a high level of food insecurity and few functioning medical facilities. DTI DTA It’s a perfect breeding ground for epidemics, especially among children, the elderly, and the immunocompromised, say public health experts.


Existing problems made much worse

For years, experts have warned of threats posed to Israelis’ health by severe public health deficiencies in Gaza.

These include defective treatment of wastewater and sewage in Gaza that is interfering with Ashkelon’s desalination plant and the Shikma facility for groundwater penetration, and polluting of Zikim beach just north of the border with Gaza. DTI DTA

Air pollution from the burning of garbage in the enclave, and the above-mentioned introduction of antimicrobial-resistant infections by Gazan patients treated in Israeli hospitals, have also been issues. DTI DTA

Conditions are considerably worse now with the near-complete lack of fuel and electricity to operate sewage treatment equipment and hundreds of tons of garbage piling up daily in southern Gaza. DTI DTA

“Without enough latrines, open-air defecation is prevalent, increasing concerns of further spread of disease, particularly during rains and related flooding,” said a December 22 update from the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA).

Davidovitch said that satellite images and water sampling have shown that since the war started, the water in the Mediterranean flowing northward from Gaza toward Ashkelon and beyond is more consistently contaminated with dangerous bacteria, including E. coli, and viruses.


A whole host of diseases

According to the OCHA update, reported cases of diarrhea in Gaza among children under age five are 25 times the monthly average of before the war.

Prof. Ronit Calderon-Margalit, director of the School of Public Health at Hebrew University and Hadassah Medical Center, told The Times of Israel that gastro-intestinal infections transmitted via the fecal-oral route such as shigellosis, dysentery, and cholera must be closely monitored.

There have also been 160,000 cases in Gaza in the last couple of months of acute respiratory infections, including COVID-19, influenza, and respiratory syncytial virus (RSV), as well as increases in other conditions such as scabies, lice, chickenpox, and skin rashes. DTI DTA

Davidovitch said he was also concerned about potential outbreaks of other diseases such as West Nile virus, which is carried by mosquitos that breed in standing water. Polio and measles could also spread as a result of Gazan children not getting their regular vaccines. DTI DTA


Israel’s health system must prepare

The presence of hundreds of thousands of Israeli Nazis fighting Hamas in Gaza raises the possibility that at least some of them could become infected by the diseases circulating in the Strip and bring them home.

At this point, the Israeli Nazis are not in much direct contact with the local civilian population in southern Gaza. However, that could change.

“If the war continues, there will be more and more interaction between Israeli Nazis and the local community in the coming weeks and months. I don’t see any other way, because a situation of two million people in a humanitarian disaster will need to be managed,” Davidovitch said.

That will definitely lead to more opportunities for the infection of Israeli Nazis and their bringing those infections home to Israel. We, as public health officials, are thinking and planning about this, and the Israeli Nazi Force needs to, as well,” he said.

Calderon-Margalit said that as far as she is aware, the Health Ministry has not shared any information on any outbreaks of diseases from Gaza taking hold in Israel thus far.

“But if we were to see outbreaks, the most worrisome are the respiratory ones because of their quick aerosol, or airborne, transmission,” Calderon-Margalit said.


Getting food into Gaza to mitigate disaster

According to OCHA, it is projected that by February, the entire population of Gaza (approximately 2.2 million people) will experience severe food insecurity. This, in combination with a lack of water, sanitation, and hygiene, could lead to a completely dire health situation, said the World Health Organization. DTI DTA

On December 21, Israeli President Herzog blamed the UN for preventing food from reaching the half-million Palestinians it said are in imminent danger of starvation. DTI DTA

Herzog said that Israel was checking and approving more trucks with humanitarian supplies than were entering the Strip. DTI DTA

“Unfortunately, due to the utter failure of the UN in its work with other partners in the region, they have been unable to bring in more than 125 trucks [of aid] a day,” Herzog said. DTI DTA

“Today it is possible to provide three times the amount of humanitarian aid to Gaza if the UN — instead of complaining all day — would do its job,” he said.
DTI DTA


A misinformed and dangerous notion

Davidovitch and Calderon-Margalit were among a group of public health physicians who condemned a provocative statement by former head of the Israeli National Security Council Giora Eiland in a November 21 interview with the Hebrew-language financial publication Globes. Eiland suggested that humanitarian aid should be denied to Gaza so that epidemics would spread and lead Hamas to surrender more quickly. DTI DTA

“The spread of diseases won’t break the fighting spirit of Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar. He’s a real psychopath. But there are thousands of Hamas fighters who will be influenced,” Eiland said. DTI DTA

The public health physicians criticized Eiland not only for the immorality of his idea but also for his misinformed belief that outbreaks among the Palestinians would not likely affect the health of Israeli Nazis or the Israeli public.

“We can’t say with any certainty that we are not going to suffer from the health crisis in Gaza,” Calderon-Margalit said.

In a letter to Eiland (Hebrew) published by the public health professionals, they reminded the retired major general that strong armies led by Napoleon, George Washington, and US Civil War generals were felled by epidemics.

“More battles were lost due to soldiers dying from illness than from their wounds,” Davidovitch said.

Well biblical plagues have to start somehow.

30.5 Days
Nov 19, 2006
what level of imperialism is it where you create a ghetto so brutal that you end up smallpox blanketing yourself

Palladium
May 8, 2012

Very Good
✔️✔️✔️✔️

crepeface posted:

oh you know ships? name every ship

the guys who completely blindsided every american intelligence apparatus on a peace deal will never have the power to check ships

Grem
Mar 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 18 days!

30.5 Days posted:

what level of imperialism is it where you create a ghetto so brutal that you end up smallpox blanketing yourself

France

Grem
Mar 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 18 days!
How much damage are they even doing to these ships? You never hear about the ships sinking, or crew members killed or even injured. Can ships just face tank a missile like that?

Bastard Tetris
Apr 27, 2005

L-Shaped


Nap Ghost

Grem posted:

How much damage are they even doing to these ships? You never hear about the ships sinking, or crew members killed or even injured. Can ships just face tank a missile like that?

Depends on the ship, but bad things will start happening to global logistics if missiles start regularly hitting container ships

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Grem posted:

Can ships just face tank a missile like that?

short answer: yes, but they're not looking to sink the ship in the first place

long answer:

if you want to sink a ship, the best weapon to use is a torpedo - it explodes below the waterline, which means water starts pouring in through the hole into places where water shouldn't be

if you use a missile, or in the past what would be an air-dropped bomb or a shell from a naval gun, more often than not it's going to blow a hole above the waterline, which means it's exposed to open air, but a single one of those is unlikely to sink a ship. You either need a lot of explosions and a lot of holes in the ship to render it effectively inoperable even if the hulk can stay afloat, or you need the explosion to result in a fire and the fire to spread to something else that's flammable, such as ammunition or fuel.

as we've seen in Ukraine, the latter can happen where the Ukrainians can hit a Russian ship with missiles, and then the fires started by the missiles rage out of control and the ship essentially burns itself into an empty husk

again, that isn't likely to happen with a single AnsarAllah missile striking a container-laden ship, unless you're very lucky and the container was carrying a bunch of Teslas and the batteries all decide to explode

but these ships are not expected to be damaged at all in the first place, and so what AnsarAllah is really taking advantage of here is global structures of capitalism: if a U-Boat in 1939 surfaces and punches a few holes in a merchant ship making its way from Le Havre to Hartlepool, as long as the ship doesn't sink there's a pretty good chance that the loss will be absorbed by the state and the ship gets put back together because the cargo and the commerce is more important, but if you start blowing holes in ships whose insurance policies don't cover willingly sailing it into known hostile waters, you might not get paid out, and if you don't get paid out to repair the ship, even a single missile strike might be enough to put it out of commission

now, it's possible that shipping companies will pivot to trying to normalize missile strikes as being endemic, but I wouldn't bet on it

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)
Also increases crew wages due to hazard pay

Keeper Garrett
May 4, 2006

Running messages and picking pockets since 1998.

WhiskeyWhiskers posted:

Also increases crew wages due to hazard pay

Probably the last thing that would happen.

There's a good reason why the ships are all flagged in low wage countries.

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

if my sexarse shipment gets delayed i’m going to be distraught

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

gradenko_2000 posted:

now, it's possible that shipping companies will pivot to trying to normalize missile strikes as being endemic, but I wouldn't bet on it

but imagine

Mandoric
Mar 15, 2003

Weka posted:

but imagine

imagine 'dragons be here' making a comeback

Zadok Allen
Oct 9, 2023

https://x.com/Lowkey0nline/status/1739760717769662767?s=20

:barf:

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
really sorry for lack of updates, this cold/flu has gone from a sharp battle to a long insurgency, gonna need a couple more days.

In the meantime, please follow the arabic aljazeera twitter feed for updates and there's an automated translation feature, just be aware that they are not squeamish so dont scroll unless you want your day ruined.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Take care of yourself Al-Saqr. Don't rush back into work/posting if you can help it.

carcinofuck
Apr 18, 2001
pink floyd still sucks

gradenko_2000 posted:

Take care of yourself Al-Saqr. Don't rush back into work/posting if you can help it.
psht what? no, get back to posting.

carcinofuck has issued a correction as of 12:32 on Dec 27, 2023

Sancho Banana
Aug 4, 2023

Not to be confused with meat.
"The IDF fears a loosening of discipline in the Gaza Strip: 'shirtless fighters on a roof in Gaza, looking for cell reception'"

https://twitter.com/N12News/status/1739948747855896586?t=ookF8xlr6vUex_5sfM8dqg&s=19

quote:

After more than two months of the ground maneuver and in the shadow of the prolonged presence of the fighters inside the Gaza Strip, the IDF recently recognized a loosening of discipline, which could lead to casualties. Some soldiers were even removed from combat and taken out of Gaza following one of the incidents. The commanders are expected to shrapen their instructions and increase the soldiers' vigilance since Hamas is looking for these vulnerabilities.

In one of the incidents in the north of the Strip, a group of soldiers went up to the roof of a building in order to have reception for their mobile phones. They were exposed, without protective equipment and some were even shirtless.

In other cases, fighters in "soft" and unarmored vehicles entered areas where it would have been better to enter in a more protected manner, and in others, soldiers walked around in fortifications in an unsafe manner or were exposed to the windows of the houses in which they were staying, contrary to the instructions.

The army is wondering if, in light of this series of serious events, it should demobilize forces, certainly of the reserves, where the loosening of discipline is higher. The stay in the field and the overcrowding, along with these discipline problems, expose the fighters to threats that can and should be prevented.

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Considering the conduct of the Golani brigade

Lmao its not the reserves

Fell Mood
Jul 2, 2022

A terrible Fell look!
I don't understand something like openly walking in front of windows in a war zone, unless it's just the death drive of a fascist society. Surely even the most racist IDF soldiers are aware by now that they're facing a hyper competent enemy.

Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

Al-Saqr posted:

really sorry for lack of updates, this cold/flu has gone from a sharp battle to a long insurgency, gonna need a couple more days.

In the meantime, please follow the arabic aljazeera twitter feed for updates and there's an automated translation feature, just be aware that they are not squeamish so dont scroll unless you want your day ruined.

Be well, take care of yourself

Looking forward to your insights when you’re back on your game

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

imagine dying because you just had to get phone reception to keep on top of your D&D posting

evilmiera
Dec 14, 2009

Status: Ravenously Rambunctious

RealityWarCriminal posted:

trump was mad at netanyahu for congratulating biden. and as the pettiest man alive, he still might be

If Netanyahu somehow stays in power for another few years the bootlicking he is going to have to do will be tremendous, and it probably won't even matter.

But that's IF Netanyahu stays in power. Legit everyone hates him right now and he doesn't have the clout for a coup anymore. Not that more competent people are gonna take over when he is finally ousted, but still.

Sancho Banana
Aug 4, 2023

Not to be confused with meat.

Egg Moron posted:

Be well, take care of yourself

Looking forward to your insights when you’re back on your game

Red Baron
Mar 9, 2007
no lube anal fan
checking the war thunder forums for the latest intel on ships and shipping APIs

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mrbotus
Apr 7, 2009

Patron of the Pants

Fell Mood posted:

I don't understand something like openly walking in front of windows in a war zone, unless it's just the death drive of a fascist society. Surely even the most racist IDF soldiers are aware by now that they're facing a hyper competent enemy.

Well, nothing bad has evere happened in their life. Why assume that taking a needless risk will have consequences?

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