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evilmiera
Dec 14, 2009

Status: Ravenously Rambunctious

Al-Saqr posted:

whaaat israel trying to intimade judges!!?!???? what a shocker!!

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https://x.com/samhusseini/status/1744137298646544739?s=46

After a decade or so of trying to punch Israel's own judiciary in the mouth repeatedly, Netanyahu decided to get into the export business.

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Egg Moron
Jul 21, 2003

the dreams of the delighting void

Gonna be tough for israel to intimidate their way out of the ICJ proceedings

drat shame Israel used all the dry powder they had available in the European theater to torpedo Jeremy corbyn

double nine
Aug 8, 2013

Al-Saqr posted:

whaaat israel trying to intimade judges!!?!???? what a shocker!!

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https://x.com/samhusseini/status/1744137298646544739?s=46

Please Israel, there is no way this can backfire, do continue antagonizing the entire world.
Israel's its own worst enemy, it's darkly funny

VoicesCanBe
Jul 1, 2023

"Cóż, wygląda na to, że zostaliśmy łaskawie oszczędzeni trudu decydowania o własnym losie. Jakże uprzejme z ich strony, że przearanżowali Europę bez kłopotu naszego zdania!"

Al-Saqr posted:

wait I thought Israel conquered northern gaza what

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https://www.aljazeera.net/news/live...4%D9%8A%D8%A9-2

Israeli bombing of the northern Gaza Strip

Al Jazeera's correspondent said that bombing targeted sites in the northern Gaza Strip, where the Palestinian resistance is still clashing with the Israeli occupation forces, despite the latter's claim that it has undermined the military capabilities of the Hamas movement there.

Yeah the plan is likely to pull ground troops out of Northern Gaza and to keep bombing it and murder civilians. They're doing this because, despite their insistence otherwise, they have made hardly a dent in Hamas' military capabilities. In fact the IDF was thoroughly owned so they have to retreat from the north.

John Charity Spring
Nov 4, 2009

SCREEEEE

E2M2 posted:

Gotta think the ICJ hearing spooked them to maybe pull back a bit on the genocide button

I don't think they have yet though

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

Al-Saqr posted:

whaaat israel trying to intimade judges!!?!???? what a shocker!!

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https://x.com/samhusseini/status/1744137298646544739?s=46

Leaving for work one morning only to find an F-16 parked on your street

hubris.height
Jan 6, 2005

Pork Pro
imagine the guy who answered Washington's phone call to negotiate, after what happened with the last deal, and every other one

all that soft power like tears in the rain

OhFunny
Jun 26, 2013

EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC
An Israeli airstrike has killed Hezbollah commander Wissam al-Tawil. He is the highest ranking Hezbollah officer killed so far.

Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012

OhFunny posted:

An Israeli airstrike has killed Hezbollah commander Wissam al-Tawil. He is the highest ranking Hezbollah officer killed so far.

That means they defeated hezbollah and won the war

Death By The Blues
Oct 30, 2011
Part of me has a feeling that the "strategic withdrawal" in Gaza is so that they can shore up defences in the north against Lebanon cause you can't say you are stepping down operations then drone strike a Hezbollah leader. They will also probably step up air strikes again in Gaza while antagonizing Lebanon.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



You would think the army that's all minimum staff sergeants and lieutenant colonels would know killing one officer doesn't end a war.

kecske
Feb 28, 2011

it's round, like always

is the entire levant totally devoid of anything remotely resembling air defence?

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 

Al-Saqr posted:

whaaat israel trying to intimade judges!!?!???? what a shocker!!

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https://x.com/samhusseini/status/1744137298646544739?s=46

Do you denounce Hamas, your honour?? DO YOU??

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

kecske posted:

is the entire levant totally devoid of anything remotely resembling air defence?

Apparently not.
Russia pulled its S-300s out from Syria last year.

Iran has its own homegrown systems but it hasnt been shipped out to allies and aligned forces.

Rigged Death Trap has issued a correction as of 14:58 on Jan 8, 2024

Fell Mood
Jul 2, 2022

A terrible Fell look!

Death By The Blues posted:

Part of me has a feeling that the "strategic withdrawal" in Gaza is so that they can shore up defences in the north against Lebanon cause you can't say you are stepping down operations then drone strike a Hezbollah leader. They will also probably step up air strikes again in Gaza while antagonizing Lebanon.

This seems right. Stop offensive operations in Gaza and use the manpower to protect the north.

It's still so incredibly arrogant, like Israel can just say "welp we're done now". I wonder if Hamas has any appetite to raid Israel proper again.

Fast Luck
Feb 2, 1988

OhFunny posted:

An Israeli airstrike has killed Hezbollah commander Wissam al-Tawil. He is the highest ranking Hezbollah officer killed so far.
They always time some new escalation or atrocity to Blinken coming to town. Gotta show him they're still Hitler and that he won't do poo poo

quote:

A suspected Israeli drone strike on southern Lebanon killed a senior commander in Hezbollah's elite Radwan force as US Secretary of State Antony Blinken travels the region attempting to prevent the outbreak of a wider war.

I think they withdrew from north gaza because it's been rendered completely uninhabitable and now they can focus more on doing the same to southern gaza and yes try to drag hezbollah into open warfare to get the US to come in and then ??? and then all of greater israel is theirs and the local populations that survived are happily living in madagascar.

Fast Luck has issued a correction as of 15:17 on Jan 8, 2024

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

Death By The Blues posted:

Part of me has a feeling that the "strategic withdrawal" in Gaza is so that they can shore up defences in the north against Lebanon cause you can't say you are stepping down operations then drone strike a Hezbollah leader. They will also probably step up air strikes again in Gaza while antagonizing Lebanon.

Yeah this seems to be the idea

VoicesCanBe
Jul 1, 2023

"Cóż, wygląda na to, że zostaliśmy łaskawie oszczędzeni trudu decydowania o własnym losie. Jakże uprzejme z ich strony, że przearanżowali Europę bez kłopotu naszego zdania!"

Death By The Blues posted:

Part of me has a feeling that the "strategic withdrawal" in Gaza is so that they can shore up defences in the north against Lebanon cause you can't say you are stepping down operations then drone strike a Hezbollah leader. They will also probably step up air strikes again in Gaza while antagonizing Lebanon.

This makes sense. Israel seems to believe, and are probably correct in this, that their only way out of what is now obviously a strategic disaster is triggering a wider war and getting the US directly involved.

Sancho Banana
Aug 4, 2023

Not to be confused with meat.
"MK Avigdor Lieberman, about the collection of 70 signatures to depose MK Ofer Cassif from the Knesset: 'It's insufferable that a person, an Israeli member of Knesset, is standing by the most brutal enemies we've ever known and slanders the state of Israel throughout the entire world. I'm sure we'll succeed in getting 70 signatures for his deposition, and if not, we want to see who refused to sign.'"

https://twitter.com/N12News/status/1744344228711297299?t=lTJAwWC7luE1S4gnh44E1A&s=19

Ardennes
May 12, 2002
It is just that the US and NATO is really signaling it isn’t in the mood for a wider war and in all honesty, the IDF has been taking mostly bad trades in the north. They can do occasional air strikes to make a point or respond but there is no way a ground offensive is going to work.

Basically, they can’t really win on the ground at this point, but as long as there isn’t peace, Bibi can keep on being PM.

Bear Retrieval Unit
Nov 5, 2009

Mudslide Experiment

Sancho Banana posted:

"MK Avigdor Lieberman, about the collection of 70 signatures to depose MK Ofer Cassif from the Knesset: 'It's insufferable that a person, an Israeli member of Knesset, is standing by the most brutal enemies we've ever known and slanders the state of Israel throughout the entire world. I'm sure we'll succeed in getting 70 signatures for his deposition, and if not, we want to see who refused to sign.'"

https://twitter.com/N12News/status/1744344228711297299?t=lTJAwWC7luE1S4gnh44E1A&s=19

only democracy in the middle east

Sancho Banana
Aug 4, 2023

Not to be confused with meat.
"At the moment, a Likud faction meeting is being held in which a briefing from Defense Minister Yoav Gallant is planned [to occur]. Following the leaks from previous meetings - the cellular phones of everyone present were collected at the entrance to the [meeting]."

https://twitter.com/N12News/status/1744355176234770836?t=0qzxkr0bML4KRGe8IMPHkQ&s=19

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

kecske posted:

is the entire levant totally devoid of anything remotely resembling air defence?

In the case of Cyprus and Lebanon, this is deliberate. The west will not allow any to be sold to them and has threatened sanctions or military intervention if they get them from Russia or China.

Desiderata
May 25, 2005
Go placidly amid the noise and haste...

OhFunny posted:

An Israeli airstrike has killed Hezbollah commander Wissam al-Tawil. He is the highest ranking Hezbollah officer killed so far.

A part of me wonders: the capacity of modern western militaries is very much built around tip of the spear technology and showy decapitation strikes... With the foundational assumption that the enemy are a hierarchy just like yourself, and without adequate command they will fail.

But reality keeps proving that the west keeps facing massed diffuse "movements", it's not clear that decapitation strikes at the top of the hierarchy actually outpace recruitment and experience gain in those organisations anyway. They certainly do nothing to quell those movement primary motivators.

But in the long run... Doesn't this just generate an atmosphere where : one side has an aggressive evolutionary pressure to get good at planning and intelligence, or die suddenly. A constant rotation of fresh personnel up the ranks to replace losses and bring in fresh ideas. While does nothing to limit their recruitment capacity.

Whereas the west gets a constant stream of false "victory" to report - while their leadership remains dull moribund, stagnant and leaks intel everywhere confident that a force of arms advantage alone keeps them safe from the consequences of their many failures.

Thinking of Tom Ricks talk on Generals and Relief in ww2. The return of "we've killed their #2 commander" again. Plus like... If you were Hezbollah or even perhaps on the Russian General staff : why would you even want to kill your enemy's generals - they're so god drat predictable they are practically working for you.

Mister Bates
Aug 4, 2010

Desiderata posted:

A part of me wonders: the capacity of modern western militaries is very much built around tip of the spear technology and showy decapitation strikes... With the foundational assumption that the enemy are a hierarchy just like yourself, and without adequate command they will fail.

But reality keeps proving that the west keeps facing massed diffuse "movements", it's not clear that decapitation strikes at the top of the hierarchy actually outpace recruitment and experience gain in those organisations anyway. They certainly do nothing to quell those movement primary motivators.

But in the long run... Doesn't this just generate an atmosphere where : one side has an aggressive evolutionary pressure to get good at planning and intelligence, or die suddenly. A constant rotation of fresh personnel up the ranks to replace losses and bring in fresh ideas. While does nothing to limit their recruitment capacity.

Whereas the west gets a constant stream of false "victory" to report - while their leadership remains dull moribund, stagnant and leaks intel everywhere confident that a force of arms advantage alone keeps them safe from the consequences of their many failures.

Thinking of Tom Ricks talk on Generals and Relief in ww2. The return of "we've killed their #2 commander" again. Plus like... If you were Hezbollah or even perhaps on the Russian General staff : why would you even want to kill your enemy's generals - they're so god drat predictable they are practically working for you.

American strategic planners in Vietnam spent years obsessed with finding and destroying the 'Bamboo Pentagon', the centralized command and control structure that the entire Vietnamese resistance relied on, convinced that if they could just eliminate it they could turn the entire war around. that it might not even exist largely didn't occur to them.

anyway it's been 60 years and Israel is still trying to locate and destroy the Tunnel Pentagon

Fast Luck
Feb 2, 1988

E2M2 posted:

Gotta think the ICJ hearing spooked them to maybe pull back a bit on the genocide button
https://twitter.com/Seamus_Malek/status/1744323992725373105

Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

Mister Bates posted:

American strategic planners in Vietnam spent years obsessed with finding and destroying the 'Bamboo Pentagon', the centralized command and control structure that the entire Vietnamese resistance relied on, convinced that if they could just eliminate it they could turn the entire war around. that it might not even exist largely didn't occur to them.

anyway it's been 60 years and Israel is still trying to locate and destroy the Tunnel Pentagon

Lmao a bunch of very serious generals in suits imagining a Gilligan's island version of what they were doing on the other side

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Ardennes posted:

It is just that the US and NATO is really signaling it isn’t in the mood for a wider war and in all honesty, the IDF has been taking mostly bad trades in the north. They can do occasional air strikes to make a point or respond but there is no way a ground offensive is going to work.

Basically, they can’t really win on the ground at this point, but as long as there isn’t peace, Bibi can keep on being PM.

I don't think it's they're not in the mood, its more they can't fight a wider war. Ukriane and the pivot to Asia has stereched the empire really thin. Think of all the troops we've uselessly got sitting in the Baltics to protect a buch of Nazis. We'd have to take ships from provoking China. To say nothing of how bare the cupboards must be from arming Ukraine. Much like the Little Satan, it could still inflict a whole bunch of pain and suffering with its air force but thats about it and as we've seen thats not enough to win a war

Spaced God
Feb 8, 2014

All torment, trouble, wonder and amazement
Inhabits here: some heavenly power guide us
Out of this fearful country!




Learning from their American daddies

JAY ZERO SUM GAME
Oct 18, 2005

Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.


https://x.com/ScooterCasterNY/status/1744369859239043509?s=20

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Engorged Pedipalps posted:

Lmao a bunch of very serious generals in suits imagining a Gilligan's island version of what they were doing on the other side

If I remember right, some more of the delusional officers actually imaginee a literal Pentagon made of bamboo in parody of our own

luv2shit
May 15, 2023

Desiderata posted:

Thinking of Tom Ricks talk on Generals and Relief in ww2. The return of "we've killed their #2 commander" again. Plus like... If you were Hezbollah or even perhaps on the Russian General staff : why would you even want to kill your enemy's generals - they're so god drat predictable they are practically working for you.

Rommell u magnificant bastard...i read ur BOOK!!!

kecske
Feb 28, 2011

it's round, like always

Frosted Flake posted:

In the case of Cyprus and Lebanon, this is deliberate. The west will not allow any to be sold to them and has threatened sanctions or military intervention if they get them from Russia or China.

Cyprus?

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

Frosted Flake posted:

In the case of Cyprus and Lebanon, this is deliberate. The west will not allow any to be sold to them and has threatened sanctions or military intervention if they get them from Russia or China.

They can't be dumb enough to sanction China.







.....right?

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
Has Hizballah considered ordering some balloon kits from aliexpress?

https://x.com/ianellisjones/status/1744191572453789931?s=20

Probably more cost effective than homebrew rockets.

What's the height limit of the Iron dome?

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



LOL watching the 2015 miniseries adaptation of Childhood's End, an Arthur C Clarke sci-fi story about benevolent aliens arriving to uplift humanity, promising to End Injustice. Literally the very first example of this on a radio report is the space aliens deleting the Gaza wall.

Point being I guess this poo poo has never been "complicated." It's literal bronze-age poo poo pursued with atomic-age tech. I know I'm preaching to the choir but if a mid-tier near decade old adaptation of a cold war sci fi novel can call that shot, it's not exactly inscrutable.

stephenthinkpad posted:

Has Hizballah considered ordering some balloon kits from aliexpress?

https://x.com/ianellisjones/status/1744191572453789931?s=20

Probably more cost effective than homebrew rockets.

What's the height limit of the Iron dome?

There's someone in the Pentagon right now asking if Boeing can make a Bat-wing with a balloon grabbing proboscis.

Sherbert Hoover
Dec 12, 2019
Probation
Can't post for 6 hours!

Owlbear Camus posted:

There's someone in the Pentagon right now asking if Boeing can make a Bat-wing with a balloon grabbing proboscis.

Yes, but it'll have to be a troop transport and be good at CAS.

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013

Cpt_Obvious posted:

They can't be dumb enough to sanction China.







.....right?

They would sanction whomever bought the missiles from China, not sanction China

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

Owlbear Camus posted:

LOL watching the 2015 miniseries adaptation of Childhood's End, an Arthur C Clarke sci-fi story about benevolent aliens arriving to uplift humanity, promising to End Injustice. Literally the very first example of this on a radio report is the space aliens deleting the Gaza wall.

Point being I guess this poo poo has never been "complicated." It's literal bronze-age poo poo pursued with atomic-age tech. I know I'm preaching to the choir but if a mid-tier near decade old adaptation of a cold war sci fi novel can call that shot, it's not exactly inscrutable.

There's someone in the Pentagon right now asking if Boeing can make a Bat-wing with a balloon grabbing proboscis.

Arthur C Clarke was a noted expert in ending childhood

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Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

KomradeX posted:

If I remember right, some more of the delusional officers actually imaginee a literal Pentagon made of bamboo in parody of our own

General in a palm frond suit walking in with a coconut radio on his ear and sitting down at a desk made from two rocks and a piece of driftwood

Bamboo Pentagon budget all tied up in rock hammers and toilet seats made from curved tree branches

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